Rumor - Microsoft declined the Star Wars KOTOR remake deal
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DeepEnigma
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I think gaming journalists tastes differ on certain classics. Considering those Aspyr ports play the exact same as they did when they first came out, those very reviews even say that. Odd, really.Shit man I'm just responding to Topher asking me the difference in quality output.
Has been for some time, she was there very briefly.
Now, it's barely spoken about. The next acronym will pop up soon, however.
azertydu91
Hard to Kill
You mean the tech that now degrades picture quality?
We won't know if they did something stupid or dodged a bullet until the game comes out.
The game is no longer canon so it doesn't make any sense storywise anymore anyway. To canonize it, it will take a ton of work and Disney oversight, a fucking nightmare in other words.
The game is no longer canon so it doesn't make any sense storywise anymore anyway. To canonize it, it will take a ton of work and Disney oversight, a fucking nightmare in other words.
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Hendrick's
If only my penis was as big as my GamerScore!
It will be on Game Pass eventually.
kyliethicc
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Hope so. Otherwise you won't be allowed to like it.
NickFire
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No way to know for sure if the rumor is true, but I would have expected MS to get first crack just because the OG was an OG Xbox exclusive (and one of the best games of the generation hands down).
I can also understand why MS would pass on it from their business standpoint, regardless of any real or fake concern over the developer. Walking this through, we are talking about the Star Wars IP, and the chances are very high that the cost to get exclusivity for Star Wars IP is much higher than some all new 3rd party IP. And we also know that MS is completely invested in GP. So it seems safe to assume that any big exclusivity deal that MS pays for will need to be on GP day 1, or else they will have to deal with some serious backlash from those expecting all MS exclusives to be released day 1 on GP. If those assumptions hold true, which seem entirely reasonable, that would logically mean the cost for MS to make this exclusive would be significantly higher than the cost for Sony who is content to simply offer the game for sale. MS would need to push a lot of new subs to make it worth paying for exclusivity without taking a bath on it, so I'm not surprised they would have passed in the least having thought about it.
I can also understand why MS would pass on it from their business standpoint, regardless of any real or fake concern over the developer. Walking this through, we are talking about the Star Wars IP, and the chances are very high that the cost to get exclusivity for Star Wars IP is much higher than some all new 3rd party IP. And we also know that MS is completely invested in GP. So it seems safe to assume that any big exclusivity deal that MS pays for will need to be on GP day 1, or else they will have to deal with some serious backlash from those expecting all MS exclusives to be released day 1 on GP. If those assumptions hold true, which seem entirely reasonable, that would logically mean the cost for MS to make this exclusive would be significantly higher than the cost for Sony who is content to simply offer the game for sale. MS would need to push a lot of new subs to make it worth paying for exclusivity without taking a bath on it, so I'm not surprised they would have passed in the least having thought about it.
GhostOfTsu
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But Sony is anticonsumer, moneyhats, they want to kill Xbox, etc 
We know about GTA, Yakuza, Spider-Man, Resident Evil 4 and now KOTOR
We know about GTA, Yakuza, Spider-Man, Resident Evil 4 and now KOTOR
Swift_Star
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"Big get"And if it were, some of those first page comments would be a 180. In fact, this would be considered ... a MEGATON.
"Way to go Microsoft"
Riky is suspiciously absent these past few days…
Papacheeks
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It makes little sense regardless why they would not be interested. Their a 2 trillion dollar company?
It shows incompetence in not realizing what something like that would do for Xbox let alone game pass.
Hendrick's
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It will likely be trash, so no, I still won't like it. I didn't really like the original either.
ChuckeRearmed
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The do go after the single player games if they are the first person though
Stalker, Atomic Heart for example. Or CP2077.I wonder if Plague Tale is due to close relationship with Asobo rather than Microsoft pursuing it separately. Because if we look at the games - all the third person single player games are moneyhatted by Sony (or EGS sometimes). I cannot even find exceptions there. If the game looks big and third person - 90% chance that Sony has a marketing for that.
In general it seems like Microsoft does not do a lot of marketing deals. If they can't or don't want to (probably due to Game Pass), then they should buy and buy publishers until they hit the regulator wall.
Microsoft can be very tone deaf regarding their core community chasing the mass market who is happy to play Switch anyway
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Swift_Star
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You're hoping it's trash, aren't you? Unfortunately for you, it's more likely than not that the game will be good.
MasterCornholio
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Doesn't mean that everything that Microsoft rejected ended up being trash. Give the devs a chance first.
Hendrick's
If only my penis was as big as my GamerScore!
No, sorry but I don't fit into your fanboy narrative. I hate all kinds of shit on all sides. I don't care if this is good or not, but if it is I will play it.
Just have a bad feeling about it. If its good I'll play it.
DeepEnigma
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Hobbygaming
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It seems like these past few weeks there's a lot more games from Japan not getting Xbox ports
I know this normally happens but it seems more consistent lately imo
digoutyoursoul
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But Sony is anticonsumer, moneyhats, they want to kill Xbox, etc
We know about GTA, Yakuza, Spider-Man, Resident Evil 4 and now KOTOR
Heavy Rain
Salty Popsicle
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I don't blame Microsoft for passing on a lot of 3rd party exclusives deals in recent years. In the span of 36 months they've expanded their first-party studios from about five or six to now closing in on nearly two dozen (not counting the Activision studios). Microsoft has enough first party talent to manage already without having to worry about micro-managing outside devs with their money.
MasterCornholio
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With all that's happened recently I would suggest not trusting your feelings. Just hope that it's good is all I'm suggesting.
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kyliethicc
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Papacheeks
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There's tone deaf and then there's incompetence. How the fuck do you not have deals in place for 2022 after such a good year in 2021? How do you base your entire 2022 slate on 2 games?The do go after the single player games if they are the first person though
I wonder if Plague Tale is due to close relationship with Asobo rather than Microsoft pursuing it separately. Because if we look at the games - all the third person single player games are moneyhatted by Sony (or EGS sometimes). I cannot even find exceptions there. If the game looks big and third person - 90% chance that Sony has a marketing for that.
In general it seems like Microsoft does not do a lot of marketing deals. If they can't or don't want to (probably due to Game Pass), then they should buy and buy publishers until they hit the regulator wall.
Microsoft can be very tone deaf regarding their core community chasing the mass market who is happy to play Switch anyway
They are fucking clueless, and I can tell you gamepass will take a huge hit this year. ANd whats even worse is if the rumors are true on starfield.
God of war is this year, and i've heard Forspoken may get pushed to have FF16 release this year as well since that game is literally complete.
2022 Is not going to be a good look for Microsoft is June showcase isn't the second coming. 2023 is going to start with bangers from Sony again.
Time is not on their side.
Roberts
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You talking about yourself, amirite
Hobbygaming
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Why wouldn't it be a substantial upgrade, it's a remake not a remaster
And Sony might have some guys from Visual Arts helping/overseeing it
DeepEnigma
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GhostOfTsu
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OMG! I didn't know about that
So many bad decisions but somehow Xbox fans always blame Sony 
Heavy Rain was destined for Xbox 360, but never made it
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Papacheeks
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The damage control is fucking Hilarious in this thread.
Microsoft fucked up straight up.
Microsoft fucked up straight up.
OmegaSupreme
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I see people trying to downplay this one already. " It's going to suck anyway" "I never liked it!"
Swift_Star
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who do you think you're fooling exactly?
Hendrick's
If only my penis was as big as my GamerScore!
Not sure what you mean, but all signs are pointing to a quick port. If they add content, improve the boring combat, and make a technically competent game, I will be pleasantly surprised.
DeepEnigma
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ChuckeRearmed
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Well, sometimes I do feel like they don't have the contingency plans. I mean just look at the whole autumn lineup for Sony - either exclusives or marketing deals. If anything delayed - they will still have something that would feel exclusive one way or another
I disagree there. The main problem is that there is a shortage of consoles and Microsoft expanding into PC, consoles and cloud they will gain the market share without even games. Game Pass growth might take a hit, but I don't think it will be that big. So even if Sony has exclusives, what is the point if they don't have the consoles to sell? Xbox being sold even without games basically lol
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NickFire
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My love of the OG makes me want to agree they dropped the ball here. But I can't get there unless we know what the cost would have been to make it exclusive on GP and confirm that it would have been a good business decision for them. Even MS has to pick and choose its spots at some point, and I bet they just couldn't justify what the cost would be to not actually sell this game when the opportunity arose. It's Star Wars after all.
Punished Miku
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That's literally what I said when it was announced on PS5. I said literally the exact same thing I'm saying in this thread.
So many of you guys are so pro Sony that it makes it impossible to even speak about anything.
MasterCornholio
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Not sure what you mean, but all signs are pointing to a quick port. If they add content, improve the boring combat, and make a technically competent game, I will be pleasantly surprised.
It's supposed to be a remake if I'm not wrong. Didn't hear anything about it being a remaster. As for what I mean peoples feelings in many cases clouds their judgement on things. I'm just saying don't let your feelings do that to you. Just because Microsoft rejected this doesn't mean it's going to be bad.
digoutyoursoul
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OMG! I didn't know about that
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Alan Wake 2 is another I can remember
Hendrick's
If only my penis was as big as my GamerScore!
I encourage you to pull your head out of your ass. If you want receipts, you have 8 years of my post history. I have probably been more critical of Xbox over the years than anyone else. It's true that I have been more critical of PlayStation lately, but that is genuine belief. They simply appeal less to me more and more with the direction they are going. Having an opinion that doesn't match your religious devotion, does not make me a fanboy. Rather it makes you one for your stupid takes.
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LordCBH
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Can't be any worse than Crackdown 3.
Ghost of Caelid
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They made gafs 2021 GOTY...thats not bad for a studio.
Swift_Star
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What signs are those exactly?
Not sure what you mean, but all signs are pointing to a quick port. If they add content, improve the boring combat, and make a technically competent game, I will be pleasantly surprised.
Papacheeks
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My whole point is MS is way richer than Sony in every way. Something like that is what Microsoft needs. I'm guessing the 70 Billion deal for ACT/B has the company doing smaller deals as of late. Since negotiations started 2021. But it's this countless ball dropping with them unwilling to spend cash like they did for RDR2 DMC5. They spent a bunch for MLB the show. Starwars is huge, even if its 6 months on gamepass. After the game came out would be huge.
There's no way you could spin this in my eyes. They continuously have dropped the ball with Internal Studio management, yearly slate curation, and now meaningful deals that would have created huge buzz but large growth for gamepass.
Sorry, there is no excuse from a trillion dollar company let alone one who is fine spending 70 Billion for candy crush and call of duty.
My whole point is MS is way richer than Sony in every way. Something like that is what Microsoft needs. I'm guessing the 70 Billion deal for ACT/B has the company doing smaller deals as of late. Since negotiations started 2021. But it's this countless ball dropping with them unwilling to spend cash like they did for RDR2 DMC5. They spent a bunch for MLB the show. Starwars is huge, even if its 6 months on gamepass. After the game came out would be huge.
There's no way you could spin this in my eyes. They continuously have dropped the ball with Internal Studio management, yearly slate curation, and now meaningful deals that would have created huge buzz but large growth for gamepass.
Sorry, there is no excuse from a trillion dollar company let alone one who is fine spending 70 Billion for candy crush and call of duty.
OmegaSupreme
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Wasn't really referring to you.
nominedomine
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Big loss. What exactly is Starfield btw?Yes. In fact, it was due to one man's moronic obsession with moneyhatting that cost every single PS5 owner Starfield.
DeepEnigma
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It's a remake, not a remaster. They even hired a lot of veterans who worked on the original, as well as other modern RPGs, etc..
Ghost of Caelid
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Starfield is "like Skyrim in space," says Todd Howard
Doesn't get much clearer than that.
nominedomine
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Ok, a bit underwhelming that it's just that after all the hype.
DeepEnigma
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As of right now? A coffee table chat with developers fellating one another.
Hopefully we will have some nice and meaty information in a couple of weeks. I for one, am looking forward to it.
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