[Rumor] Microsoft is looking into an Xbox Series X Digital and there are also plans for 'Other Hardware' in 2025
Why would it be too late for a pro console?
dotnotbot
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Cause the base hardware (especially S) is too outdated at that point - it's only 2 years left before PS6 and you would expect Pro console to last at least 3 years. Unless they drop S parity on its release and current X becomes new S.
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ByWatterson
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I don't know why we keep elevating this guy.
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
This nick ? 
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Elder Legend
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Shpeshal Nick is in need of Shpeshal Needs.
Xbox One X came out a year after the PS4 Pro.
Elder Legend
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And usually 1 year later also means more powerful. The Xbox One X was a really great machine.
VitoNotVito
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Xbox era?
VitoNotVito
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They had to discontinue that so it would not compete with series S...
rabbity-thing
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They announced Project Scorpio (the One X) in April of 2017 (six months after the PS Pro launch) and released it that November.
S0ULZB0URNE
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Should of been this instead of the xss.
All of this plus the naming schemes is Sega like confusion and that didn't end well.
Better late than never I guess.
All of this plus the naming schemes is Sega like confusion and that didn't end well.
Better late than never I guess.
ByWatterson
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They really just need to hope people haven't been counting and call the next one Xbox 6.
Elder Legend
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Not sure what you are implying here...
Series S has a far better CPU, NVME SSD which is huge, quick resume and raytracing. It made sense for them to discountinue the Xbox One X.
But yes, Series S being a lowest common denominator in today's day isn't helping Microsoft.
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Daneel Elijah
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And that year that they lost made it impossible for Xbox to be more than a footnote compared to the PS4 Pro. Who was not utilised to it's full potential. Don't get me wrong, better late than never and the Xbox One X was a great gift to the community that believed in Xbox and got burned by the Kinect/ always online fiasco. I consider that year left to Sony a needed sacrifice. But this gen they have a good console in the Series X.
Sony, as a market leader, had a few reasons to make a PS4 Pro, who was better suited to VR, 4k TVs, and offered games at better resolutions/ framerate to make those that tend to go PC mid gen stay. Xbox does not have that problem, as they embrace PC gaming. They do not have plans for VR, as far as I know. What others reasons would they have then? A me too response to Sony is possible, but in that case being late make it a flawed idea in my opinion, as the One X sales proved last gen. Reaching new people? It would be contrary to their aims with the Series S, that want to make gaming more accessible. A game that use well a 2025 high end console will not be easily compatible with the S. Either the S will be too weak, or the new console will be underutilised. Once again, better late than never. But as the challengers they should have tried to be first in making this move, because if GTA 6 launches next year with PS5 Pro but not this hypothetical Xbox I hope that the loss can be easy to see for all. A series X digital edition with agressive pricing would work better in my opinion. At least in the short term.
Riky
$MSFT
They discontinued it because it had an ancient CPU and a HDD, it was also expensive to make.
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Thick Thighs Save Lives
NeoGAF's Physical Games Advocate Extraordinaire
Project Scorpio was revealed/teased at e3 2016 before the launch of the PS4 Pro later that year.
Project Scorpio: The Most Powerful Place to Create and Play - Xbox Wire
At Team Xbox we put gamers at the center of everything we do and we are driven to build the best platform on which to create and play games. We know that you can’t have one without the other, which is why we’ve invested so much in new development tools, publishing opportunities, hardware and...
news.xbox.com
HerjansEagleFeeder
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Probably a "Pro" model, but would love the bold move releasing a new gen years before Sony. I don't think it would help much, though.
Cyberpunkd
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Still won't do jack shit.
Elder Legend
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Truth be told, MS never really cared that much if you bought their consoles. They have always been about services. As you said, Xbox One X was more about turning the ship around after the disaster and weakness that was the Xbox One, rather than "We better than Sony" Microsoft has proven that they are very capable of building most powerful consoles with good pricing. I loved my Xbox One X. PS4 Pro didn't feel like a big improvement of the PS4.
Mind you, I had both of these machines and I've used my Xbox One X more for multiplatform games. But, by the point Xbox One X came out, I've already used my OG PS4 so much that it was not even a comparison. I had over 100 platinum trophies, and played majority of the 1st party exclusives. The PS4/X1 was all Sony dominant for me. My most played Xbox games in thst era were Sea of Thieves, Forza Horizon 4, Killer Instincts and Gears 5. Which is not really that many. That's how shit that era was for Microsoft. I really miss their 360 days.
After the Xbox One X and Series I am just going to go out on a limb here and say that their goal is just to always have a more powerful machine than their competition at all times possible from the moment Xbox One X came to the market. Let's just say that "raw power" is now part of Team Xbox DNA.
New consoles are rumored for 2028 and when I say new I mean the true next generation - PS6 and Xbox Next. That would be 3 years after a "Series X Pro" comes out which is same amount of time after the Xbox One X released in 2017, because 2020 was the start of a new gen.
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VitoNotVito
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I'm implying One X has got better GPU, faster and more RAM. HDD is a bottleneck but you could replace it with SATA SSD
Thick Thighs Save Lives
NeoGAF's Physical Games Advocate Extraordinaire
Project Scorpio: The Most Powerful Place to Create and Play - Xbox Wire
At Team Xbox we put gamers at the center of everything we do and we are driven to build the best platform on which to create and play games. We know that you can’t have one without the other, which is why we’ve invested so much in new development tools, publishing opportunities, hardware and...
Mr Reasonable
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Would vote to ban this guy from being quoted here.
Physiognomonics
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Xbox plan since XB1:
- Copy Sony hardware strategy 2 years later
- Copy Sony hardware strategy 2 years later
Elder Legend
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why would you want a SATA SSD, when a NVME SSD exists? Better GPU doesn't mean anything when you have a CPU that is ancient. The CPU will be bottlenecking everything. The CPU was the main culprit for both the PS4 and Xbox One. RAM was never an issue for either consoles, except for maybe the Xbox One because they had something different with it.
Yeah, no that's just completely factually incorrect.
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Fess
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dotnotbot
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So what? It's 1 year later than last gen and Sony might not want to extend current gen by 1 year. That leaves the risk of being behind Sony unless they're absolutely sure Sony is going to extend current gen. But then having S as a base hardware for 8 years sounds terrible.
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Daneel Elijah
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I agree with that. Phil Spencer really does not want Xbox be inferior to Playstation in price and/or performance and even did the S/X strategy to garantee that this gen.
This is where I disagree a little. This is not about 3 years are enough or not. But more about the year that they loose for no good reason. The One X was strong, and the comparison with the weaker Xbox One made it even more obvious. Any game that play on Xbox One can easily be a lot better on the One X, and Xbox first party studios naturally showed that. This gen the Series X is a good machine. So if the goal is to have the best console, being out one year later just to be a little better is weird to me. They can be better the same year. And not loose to much, unless there is a huge revolution in AMD tech that Sony would not want to wait for for some reason. Loosing one year will make the PS5 Pro the console that will be the standard for optimisation because it will have sold a lot more. And this time the Series S will make it awkward for Xbox first party to use it well in my opinion. I think that if they have one game that should be out in 2025 and that could really showcase this great like Forza did for the One X and Horizon did for Sony I could maybe understand it. But once again the Series S make that hard to imagine for me.
Right time for an Xwitch though, I mean Xdick err Xdeck.
Panajev2001a
GAF's Pleasant Genius
Well they pushed the Xbox One X a year after the PS4 Pro was out at $100 more and then took laps as if releasing a year later and with a considerably more expensive console was the work of wizards
(in terms of it beating the cheaper and older PS4 Pro).It would fit those timelines and allow them to claim they have the performance crown again (similarly to how they "have" it now maybe)…
FinalBossWithTheMostPower
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Another day another thread.
sendit
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I think you live in an alternate reality.