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Rumor: Switch developer information leaked. Reveals A TON incl. hardware specs
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To be fair, not even Nvidia is using Pascal for their Shield right now.
The Miis having more customization options was straight-up confirmed a few days after the Switch Presentation.
Osiris
I permanently banned my 6 year old daughter from using the PS4 for mistakenly sending grief reports as it's too hard to watch or talk to her
That row means available to application, in other words games, it just means games can't access the USB directly.
LordOfChaos
Member
Using A57s instead of A72s probably also means 20nm rather than 14/16nm. I guess Pascal and A72 just aren't fabbed out on 20nm, which then pushes the question to if they could have waited for 16nm to take the extra jump of future proofing.
mario_O
Member
It USB 2.0 and 3.0 disabled. I believe the Switch uses type-c.
Yep, and I'm annoyed because I would have loved to get into the program as an indie developer and NOT leak NDA'd documentation, but people doing stuff like this makes it harder on every other indie developer.
They have nothing more than I do in the OP (that's where they got their info from) and are even using my imgur images. (Just as a response to you, I don't really care if anyone takes it)
I have all 3 files downloaded as well, they won't just be gone.
Maybe it was not ready for mass production when they started production at the end of last year. No car has it for now and even the new Shield has Maxwell.
Yeah there's 0 chance that hardware is pushing out 4K games, so I'm hardly concerned by the lack of HDMI 2.0 support here. I'd be curious, given the proliferation of HDMI 2.0 at this point, whether it's just a cost choice to go with 1.4? I've no idea what the relative pricing is at this point.
sixteen-bit
Member
no more screen lottery
LordOfChaos
Member
Rude!
Dark Cloud
Member
Does this mean you can invite friends right from the system?
lol I see it says friend invites right before it
SomedayTheFire
Member
uh type c is just the connector. it's still USB 3.0+
Sounds like it, yeah.
Vanillalite
Ask me about the GAF Notebook
This just going by what we know spec wise and what's been announced.
Could use some Lorem IpsumRude!
brickarts295
Member
I'm guessing there isn't going to be any achievements this time around, shame. Hopefully they'll double down on My Nintendo missions.
Inferno313
Banned
Great! Finally sounds like Nintendo is looking at what the other hardware is doing in terms of OS features. I couldn't believe that the two-player online mode in MK8 didn't allow the second player to use their own NNID. I imagine with this new system, MK8 deluxe should be able to do that.
2Smashed4U
Banned
Why? They're not gonna be making giant PS4 size games for this anyway.
ZeroMaverick
Member
AHHHHH HURRY UP MARCH 3RD!!!! Omg it's killing me.
what is so great about achievement systems? I've never been that enamoured with them myself. what is the attraction? This is a genuine question & not trolling. Never been that bothered with the xbox & psn systems.
Oh? I definitely missed that
If I'm reading this correctly.
1. You can have the same Nintendo Account on different Switch's.
2. You cannot have the same Nintendo Account on two different profile on the same Switch.
3. One profile on a Switch cannot have two different Nintendo Accounts.
The second option I don't like. I think having the local profiles separated from the online account is best.
Also, like I always thought, the dev kit image is real, too many similarities for it to be a shop.
Inferno313
Banned
I think cart size is the one thing Nintendo has been flexible about before, DS and 3DS got increasingly larger cart sizes throughout their lifespan. If Square, for example, came along asking for a 64 GB card for a new FF game or something, I imagine Nintendo would be willing to work with them on that.
We just don't know what process node and final clocks are for this device. This leak for instance says that the CPU is 2GHz and the GPU is 512GFLOPs, but we know it isn't, we just don't know what the final clocks are, but we have 2 potential candidates;
Eurogamer leak, At least somewhat connected to this document: A57 1ghz 4 core CPU with 768mhz 2SM Maxwell GPU (393gflops, or about 4 times Wii U in single precision and around 680gflops in mixed precision)
Foxconn leak: A72 1.78ghz 4 core CPU with 921mhz 2SM 16nm Nvidia GPU 472gflops (almost 5 times Wii U in single precision and around 800gflops in mixed precision)
franklyshankly
Member
It's still confusing, why does it explicitly just say "see if they are joinable" and what game they are playing? Is it a separate feature form actually joining them? If so, why?
Man the Switch is really an enigma, this thing just needs to come out already so all these rumors and contradictions can be settled one way or another.
Meatyhooks
Neo Member
Thanks for compiling all of this info OP!
It's fun to see how many people that own a game actually beat it, where the biggest drop off points are, and so on.
LelouchZero
Member
I'm really excited for the Switch, it has a lot of potential to be really awesome!
The specs are okay and are pretty good for a handheld/home console hybrid.
Game card capacities up-to 32GB is very interesting, it should be okay for a lot of games.
The specs are okay and are pretty good for a handheld/home console hybrid.
Game card capacities up-to 32GB is very interesting, it should be okay for a lot of games.
Dark Cloud
Member
Yeah I completely overlooked this lol
Lots we're assuming the app was the only way to invite friends and now we learn you can do that on the system. It doesn't help that Reggie said you'll use the app for it too I think.
I wonder where this leaves Voice Chat then
ok, thanks for that. genuinely interested.
AcademicSaucer
Member
I wonder how much has changed in 8 months
ultrazilla
Member
Alright then tech NeoGAF, how much more powerful is this than a Wii U in docked mode as I don't plan on using portable mode much at all, if ever. Still safe to say 2-5x a Wii U in docked mode but still just missing Xbox One performance?
Betta Lines
Member
IPS can be a lottery too, unfortunately.
You're making a bigger deal out of this than it is, the foxconn info is legit and it is also newer. We don't know the final clocks, but a change of 20% performance is hardly worth the big deal you are making it out to be, I mean it would go completely unnoticed to the end user and is about the same difference in performance that XB1 and XB1S has.
Now I want a Sanford & Son theme..Rude!
LordOfChaos
Member
472/176 = 5?
393/176 = 4?
Wii U = 160 shaders @ 550MHz * 2 ops per core per clock = 176Gflops, single precision.
Or are you adding a multiplier for Maxwells increased efficiency over R700? In which case I'd clear that up as only Gflops were mentioned before.
Garrett Hawke
Member
it's the same as digital foundry leaked last year, here was their verdict:
http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-2016-nintendo-switch-spec-analysis
UnemployedVillain
Member
Lots of people like to jump to conclusions...We learned a while ago, when SF2 revealed you could do a bunch of things in game, and we had a separate thread about just the online info it had. Of course those threads got a fraction of the responses as the Reggie one
TwistedFreeze
Member
Sounds about right. I mean, for a portable device, you couldn't have expected much more
Inferno313
Banned
I'm not a technical guru, but it sounds like "Noticeably more powerful than WiiU, even in handheld mode, but not quite Xbox One" is the consensus that I've seen from those who understand this stuff better.
Skittzo0413
Member
Eh keep in mind this is still info from July. It doesn't even have the clock rates reported by DF.
It's very strange to be completely dismissing the Foxconn leak, considering everything they got right.
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