Pat's acting really obnoxious about the whole RE thing.
His purist attitude about Resident Evil really rubs me the wrong way.
Is it wrong to want your franchise to stay the same way you fell in love with it?
Umbrella Corps or w/e it's called is very clearly not a RE game. It might be good, it might be bad, but it's not a RE game so I can understand the outrage to a degree that they'd put their timer into what is very clearly a quick cash in attempt as opposed to an actual, proper, mainline game.
Eh, they just put out Revelations 2 for the fans of RE4 and 5, and they're developing REmake 2 for the fans of older RE games, so if they wanna do some spinoff then there's really no problem with it since its not impacting development on other RE games.
This isn't a Nintendo Metroid situation.
Breakfastists and Anti-Breakfastists.Also, religion ideas or other suggestions for the SBF Civ mod would be appreciated.
FTFYBreak-Fascists and Anti-Break-Fascists.
Is it wrong to want your franchise to stay the same way you fell in love with it?
Is it wrong to want your franchise to stay the same way you fell in love with it?
lol watOn topic this is probably my favorite episode of Until Dawn. It just underlines how terrible Emily is, and it amazes me that people think she's the best character.
I think its pretty funny in this case that Pat has loved Resident Evil since the beginning yet I'm pretty sure that 4, which was a huge deviation from standard resident evil, is his favorite game in the series and i think in general.
Wanting things to stay the same is fine, but I think in general thats its important to understand that things change for whatever reason. And if its successful (whether in quality or sales), that you have to be ready to accept that things are going to be different regardless of how much you loved the old thing, and either go with the flow or move onto something else
This is unrelated to today's episode, but Vessel's system is completely fucked. I decided to check out the "new" page and noticed that SBF has a Channel for every single thing they've done... So while they're putting things up on the Playthrough channel, there's a Huntin and Killin channel, a Sonic Adventure channel, Cryme Tyme and Fisticuffs channels. Basically there isn't a playlist system for Vessel.
It's pretty hilarious to see two rows of SBF content.
On topic this is probably my favorite episode of Until Dawn. It just underlines how terrible Emily is, and it amazes me that people think she's the best character.
That's why I just use the biggest page to see everything available. It is indeed a shitty system where if you want to go deeper you become more and more secluded from the other content though.
Fun fact for today's until dawn episode, kinda spoilery.
The stranger (flamethrower guy) is larry fessenden, the guy who directed the movie Wendigo.
When this happened, I felt legit awkward. Like something from The Office awkward. Like your friend's mum yelling at your friend while you just sit there awkward. I know Pat was being deliberately antagonistic but Liam took the bait. Hook, line and sinker."There's nothing wrong with a spin off," said Liam.
"Yeah, you're right, ORC was great," Pat replies.
"I never said that was great, shut the fuck up," Liam said semi-aggressively.
"You just said there's nothing wrong with a spin off," Pat wheezed out.
"No, that's not what I said. I meant on principle there's nothing wrong with a spin off."
"Oh, on principle."
"And you're being a facetious asshole."
"Fair enough."
"Welcome to the podcast," Matt blurts out.
I like your analogy but on an unrelated note, there's a reason people hate Cena. Take the Rusev beef for example. 'John Cena loves his country and is passionate about being a patriot, what a guy, he's amazing! ....Rusev loves his country and is passionate about being a patriot, what an asshole, fuck him, how dare he?!'this guy is the John Cena of the group. He gets very passionate about the things he loves and gets mad when people don't fact check. When he's right, he's right. And when he's 100% wrong, he puts on his big boys pant and admits defeat. And he lets that passion go.
I just don't get that impression from the conversation. Liam was fine to me since he had a common thread line I felt I could follow. He hopes Umbrella Corps is good, has a good developer, and also he's willing to accept spin offs. Pat being bleh spin offs except for the ones I like and putting words in Liam's mouth was dumb.
If Liam's a clown for calling Pat an asshole then okay. I understand why he did it since Pat was running him around for not much reason besides saying I don't want thing. I think it also helped Pat clue in and realize he might be sounding like a dick.
Woolie is being disingenuous about peoples reactions to MGSV. People are over-exaggerating? Fuck off! I'm yet to see a decent argument for why it isn't disappointing outside of b-b-b-b-but the gameplay. To be expected. Woolie and Liam will defend it because they fall for hype, Matt will dislike it and Pat will fall in line with Bunnyhop. Then the Liam-Pat arguments.
I blame Vince for everything wrong with Cena's wrestling persona and most of the WWE's problem. Hes super ignorant on what the crowd wants and what they want to push.When this happened, I felt legit awkward. Like something from The Office awkward. Like your friend's mum yelling at your friend while you just sit there awkward. I know Pat was being deliberately antagonistic but Liam took the bait. Hook, line and sinker.I like your analogy but on an unrelated note, there's a reason people hate Cena. Take the Rusev beef for example. 'John Cena loves his country and is passionate about being a patriot, what a guy, he's amazing! ....Rusev loves his country and is passionate about being a patriot, what an asshole, fuck him, how dare he?!'
The John Cena patriotism thing has always gotten on my nerves.
Wrestling's not real, I know.
Are Woolie and Liam really more susceptible to hype?Woolie is being disingenuous about peoples reactions to MGSV. People are over-exaggerating? Fuck off! I'm yet to see a decent argument for why it isn't disappointing outside of b-b-b-b-but the gameplay. To be expected. Woolie and Liam will defend it because they fall for hype, Matt will dislike it and Pat will fall in line with Bunnyhop. Then the Liam-Pat arguments.
Are Woolie and Liam really more susceptible to hype?
You can't really argue about "why something is disappointing" because that depends on the person's expectations. If Woolie's not disappointed it's because the game met his his expectations. He didn't even say if he was disappointed or not if I recall correctly though, his comments were more so that some of the criticisms (particularly regarding the late game) are exaggerated, which I'm inclined to agree with. I like the twist, the endgame, I love the characters, enjoyed a lot of moments, love the gameplay, and finally, I don't give a fuck about connecting the dots of the "canon" because I don't think that's what MG's ever been about and I think it's pretty clear Kojima doesn't give that much of shit about that either (such as it may be I admittedly would've have liked more closure. I'm personally a little disappointed in that regard. A little. End of the day 9/10 game for me, and that's what I expected and that's pretty much how I'd rate every MG game.).
Say what you will about the ending. If you dig it then fair enough. I disagree but whatever. But no one can say that MGSV's second half isn't awfully paced, unfinished and fundamentally broken. All the amazing gameplay in the world can't help that second chapter brokenness.
Matt seems to dislike MGS5 a ton based off his SomethingAwful posts.
Quite a bit there to read. More than I ever expect him to talk about on the podcast at least. I'd love to see how the others respond to his dislike of the game though. It's the usual thing of story relegated to tapes and now all of this game is gameplay based when that wasn't Matt's main drawing point. Also problems with how repetitive and uninteresting the game is compared to other MGS titles. That kind of stuff.
Also Matt talking about how much he dislikes the common podcast format. A bummer to hear him say that and I understand that it's a big chunk of time each week with no breaks, but I would prefer it compared to him wanting to do it more infrequently when they have more to say on a subject. I find that there's always a thing every week or two that I like to hear them talk about. I understand the dislike of this regimented unchanging schedule, but I find the idea of trying to go more artsy with the podcast or having it more debate sounding with special topics is unappealing. A natural free flowing podcast each week is just always something I'd prefer. More focused podcasts on certain subjects feels like a side project to me. It's not something that would be a mainline thing.
I for one did not in anyway expect Matt of all the Zaibatsu to like V, if only for the fact of it being kind of a ginormous "Skyim" game. Not to mention V is just as much Peace Walker 2 as it is MGS5, with how him and Pat seem to dislike PW.
And as for this bit...Matt said:It's not what I wanted, and it's not really what the trailers were presenting it to be. I was told it would be "the ultimate Metal Gear" and it would be "Pain for Pain" and wrap up the story in a grandiose fashion.
Oh for sure, the game's unfinished. It's fact and it sucks. Here's to to hoping for a DLC packSay what you will about the ending. If you dig it then fair enough. I disagree but whatever. But no one can say that MGSV's second half isn't awfully paced, unfinished and fundamentally broken. All the amazing gameplay in the world can't help that second chapter brokenness.
You know guys, this actually sounds to me like Matt's the one who fell for the hype. This is what I've been trying to get at for a while. Based on my observances of comments like these I've seen here and there, I actually think those most disappointed with V are those who bought into the marketing the strongest, if I may be so bold.
Matt seems to dislike MGS5 a ton based off his SomethingAwful posts.
Quite a bit there to read. More than I ever expect him to talk about on the podcast at least. I'd love to see how the others respond to his dislike of the game though. It's the usual thing of story relegated to tapes and now all of this game is gameplay based when that wasn't Matt's main drawing point. Also problems with how repetitive and uninteresting the game is compared to other MGS titles. That kind of stuff.
Also Matt talking about how much he dislikes the common podcast format. A bummer to hear him say that and I understand that it's a big chunk of time each week with no breaks, but I would prefer it compared to him wanting to do it more infrequently when they have more to say on a subject. I find that there's always a thing every week or two that I like to hear them talk about. I understand the dislike of this regimented unchanging schedule, but I find the idea of trying to go more artsy with the podcast or having it more debate sounding with special topics is unappealing. A natural free flowing podcast each week is just always something I'd prefer. More focused podcasts on certain subjects feels like a side project to me. It's not something that would be a mainline thing.
You know guys, this actually sounds to me like Matt's the one who fell for the hype. This is what I've been trying to get at for a while. Based on my observances of comments like these I've seen here and there, I actually think those most disappointed with V are those who bought into the marketing the strongest, if I may be so bold.Oh for sure, the game's unfinished. It's fact and it sucks. Here's to to hoping for a DLC packFor what it is, I'm cool with it though.that's not coming.
Matt seems to dislike MGS5 a ton based off his SomethingAwful posts.
Quite a bit there to read. More than I ever expect him to talk about on the podcast at least. I'd love to see how the others respond to his dislike of the game though. It's the usual thing of story relegated to tapes and now all of this game is gameplay based when that wasn't Matt's main drawing point. Also problems with how repetitive and uninteresting the game is compared to other MGS titles. That kind of stuff.
Latest UD episode:.Matt really has a irrational hatred towards Emily, making me think that he personally knew someone like her. Do you really think it's weird that she's mad that she almost got killed because the other people thought wendigos use zombie rules for no reason at all? She's absolutely within her right to be pissed. Also he got upset when she was yelling about Matt leaving her to die, going "yeah but you survived doe". Come on.
It seems like the ones who are most disappointed are the ones who wanted another traditional MGS game. What we got was a pretty good stealth game that barely resembles what we've come to love from 4 numbered MGS entries.
Dude, when did Kojima or anyone say it was going to be anything it isn't (disregarding cut content)? I have no absolutely no idea what you've come to love or think resembled what you've come to love. MGSV resembles a successor to Peace Walker, like, a lot. A lot. I have no idea what you expected. I don't know how Matt or you or anyone draws from extremely vague lines like "The Ultimate Metal Gear" and "Pain for Pain" and "Skull for Skull" to think that "Yes, this mean it is the grandiose mega-hyper conclusion to the Big Boss saga." Nothing pointed to that. Story-wise, the trailers taken at face value are some of the most vague things I have ever seen. They were clearly supposed to be confusing. They were laden with hints the diehards could piece together. Most of all, they were meant to play with your expectations.Believing that a game is what the creators say it is is not falling for the hype. But even then, I disagree that those who dislike the game are the ones who bought into the marketing. It seems like the ones who are most disappointed are the ones who wanted another traditional MGS game. What we got was a pretty good stealth game that barely resembles what we've come to love from 4 numbered MGS entries.
I'd go further to say it depends on what you love from the 4 numbered MGS games. If you loved the long cutscenes/story and are really only there for that, then those are definitely the people who are gonna be the most disappointed. The cutscenes/story were never what I loved about Metal Gear (or even what I think MGS is) since its honestly not written any better than a regular anime. Its the insane attention to detail that was in every aspect of those games (gameplay, interactions, graphics, characters, etc.) including the story/cutscenes that made me love Metal Gear. And in that department, which I think is what always made Metal Gear Solid so unique, MGSV outdoes those games in spades, except for in the cutscene department.
Dude, when did Kojima or anyone say it was going to be anything it isn't (disregarding cut content)? I have no absolutely no idea what you've come to love or think resembled what you've come to love. MGSV resembles a successor to Peace Walker, like, a lot. A lot. I have no idea what you expected. I don't know how Matt or you or anyone draws from extremely vague lines like "The Ultimate Metal Gear" and "Pain for Pain" and "Skull for Skull" to think that "Yes, this mean it is the grandiose mega-hyper conclusion to the Big Boss saga." Nothing pointed to that. Story-wise, the trailers taken at face value are some of the most vague things I have ever seen. They were clearly supposed to be confusing. They were laden with hints the diehards could piece together. Most of all, they were meant to play with your expectations.
You got played.
LIKE A DAMN FIDDLE
I agree. Emily's feelings about that whole situation are pretty reasonable. Also I can't believe they might actually get a perfect run on this the first time through.
So Revengance is still the best Metal Gear game then, right?
Actual spoilers for UD LP:It's not a perfect run
So Revengance is still the best Metal Gear game then, right?
So Revengance is still the best Metal Gear game then, right?
It's josh isn't it ? Or does he accidentally run at the very end
I'm loving Matt's reactions to the reveals. It's one of those let's plays where he's really into it because he's deeper into the horror genre than anyone.
So Revengance is still the best Metal Gear game then, right?
I ain't saying. You'll just have to wait and see.
I really don't see anything wrong with SF5 talk when its about new characters being announced and where 3/4 of them are very interested in the topic, especially when Matt is usually front and center on the S2 of KI/Mortal Kombat X new character announcements/breakdowns
Not every topic has to be interesting for every person on the podcast. I've listened to plenty of podcasts where the other people not interested either take a break during the segment or stay silent on their phones or something.
I'd go further to say it depends on what you love from the 4 numbered MGS games. If you loved the long cutscenes/story and are really only there for that, then those are definitely the people who are gonna be the most disappointed. The cutscenes/story were never what I loved about Metal Gear (or even what I think MGS is) since its honestly not written any better than a regular anime. Its the insane attention to detail that was in every aspect of those games (gameplay, interactions, graphics, characters, etc.) including the story/cutscenes that made me love Metal Gear. And in that department, which I think is what always made Metal Gear Solid so unique, MGSV outdoes those games in spades, except for in the cutscene department.
When Matt is really into it, he's honestly the most fun to watch and listen. Or just as good at least for like when Pat is really into a horror game and is "serious pat". He's so damn endearing. The inner kid in him is bursting with excitement.
Which reminds me that i'm super hype for the shitstorm of this year. It's my favourite time of the year regarding TBFP stuff
I hope they'll play the rest of the FNaF games.
When Matt hinted he was going to play layers of fear i got really excited because that game looks mighty interesting