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SEC Filing: MS Will Honor Existing Activision Commitments (Sony, Google, Apple) Post-Close

TGO

Hype Train conductor. Works harder than it steams.
Shareholders are not gamers. Shareholders don't give a shit about console wars. Shareholders want MS stock to rise so they can sell at a profit or double down and buy more. In the eyes of shareholders more gamepass subs > Licensing royalties from a MS game on Playstation consoles.
Exactly, they don't give shit about console wars or exclusivity.
They care that the 30m selling a year IP you just paid 68 billion for sells 30m copies or the equivalent on Gamepass.
An extra 2-3 million subs ain't gonna cut it.
 

MrFunSocks

Banned
So just like every acquisition ever.

After those contracts are done, Sony won’t see a single new Activision/blizzard game ever again. Amazing that people are doing this again so soon after the Zenimax purchase. Starfield isn’t going to PS5, why do people think these new games will?

Microsoft didn’t spend $70bil to keep feeding the biggest game of the year every year to their competitors to help them keep pulling ahead. That’s madness.

And to people saying “they need to make their money back” - they haven’t lost any money to make back. They gained a massive asset worth $70bil. When you buy a house for $500k you don’t have to make your money back on it lol. You have a house worth $500k, your total value stayed the same.
 
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yurinka

Member
Do we have reason to believe that CoD 2023 will come to Playstation? The deal is supposed to be finalized in Microsoft's fiscal year 2023 which ends in june.

Sony often had marketing deals for CoD, so probably already had them signed for the next few ones. And a Sony leaked marketing deal document basically mentioned no Gamepass for a while after launch, I think it was during a year or so and then after that during a long period if they wanted to include it in other sub service they must gave Sony the priority and option to match the deal (can't remember the details, but that last part maybe was for an entire generation or so).

This would mean that current and future CoD games that had marketing deal with Sony wouldn't be in GP for some years, and -at least- the next ones who had signed with Sony would be multiplatform and not hoin GP for a while.

ABK, Microsoft and Phil Spencer said they won't remove CoD from PS, and that they will honor their deals even in the SEC filling. So probably it means CoD will continue multiplatform and for a while out of GP for at least the games that had active the marketing deal with Sony. When possible (maybe once the acquisition gets finalized) MS would include in GP the previous CoD with no Sony marketing deal or older enough to have expired the 'no gamepass' part of the deal if already was there when signed, and the future ones would be included in GP if not having deal with Sony or once the 'no GP part' expires after some years.
 
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DragonNCM

Member
So Playstation will continue to get exclusive content for the next two CODs despite MS owning Activision.
That's actually some funny shit.
I will laughing so hard when I boot CoD on my PS5 and see....
ShamefulCorruptBunting-size_restricted.gif
 

yurinka

Member
Sony CoD fanatics will buy an Xbox.
Looking at CoD sales and doing some numbers, pretty likely not even 5M of 120M Sony users. Some other ones already have an Xbox or gaming PC, and other ones would move to other games.

And this is in the case CoD goes exclusive, which would be the opposite MS, ABK and Spencer said. They said the same for Minecraft and existing communities/IPs of Zenimax on PS before the acquisition (doesn't apply post acquisition new IPs as Starfield or Redfall).
 
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yurinka

Member
Are people seriously doubting MS is unwilling to make CoD exclusive because "they leave money on the table" after they made Starfield and TES VI excluisve? That is straight out comical.
MS, ABK and Phil Spencer said even in the SEC filling that want to keep CoD on PS (the platform where it makes more money), and even in the SEC filling use Minecraft as example, where PS got DLC/updates plus spin-off games as Minecraft Story Mode or Minecraft Dungeons.

Dude.....70 billion. BILLION!! No ...just no.
MS console and subscription has half of the userbase of the Sony ones. Putting their games on PS helps to recoup the investment faster, specially when in your platorms they are day one on a subscription, so you don't get the $60/$70 of the game sale.
 
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yurinka

Member
Yes, but it's on it's own little island. Sony won't allow crossplay with it. So while people can crossplay Minecraft across PC, Xbox, Switch, and Mobile, those on the PlayStation only have access to worlds created on the PS because Sony wants to "protect the children".
I may be wrong, but Apex Legends, Brawlhalla, Destiny, Fornite, Overwatch, No Man's Sky and many other ones -like the Ubisoft ones- have crossplay on PS.

I'd say than more than to protect the children is that they didn't want PS games forcing users to use XBL accounts/logins.
 

Gavon West

Spread's Cheeks for Intrusive Ads
MS, ABK and Phil Spencer said even in the SEC filling that want to keep CoD on PS (the platform where it makes more money), and even in the SEC filling use Minecraft as example, where PS got DLC/updates plus spin-off games as Minecraft Story Mode or Minecraft Dungeons.


MS console and subscription has half of the userbase of the Sony ones. Putting their games on PS helps to recoup the investment faster, specially when in your platorms they are day one on a subscription, so you don't get the $60/$70 of the game sale.
Dude, you dont spend $70 Billion with expectations of making your money back faster. $70 Billion is the very antithesis of "quickly". You invest that kind of money for the long game. $70 Billion says, "we don't need Sony or Nintendo money". And I'm just stating the obvious on that last quote. The fact Microsoft paid that kind of money in CASH, means that money was just lying around not being used. Do you really believe Phil and Co need Sony at this point? $70 Billion says, "we aren't even thinking about Sony". You guys keep thinking that Microsoft is still conducting business the traditional way. Only Sony and Nintendo are still doing traditional business.

Microsoft just made a clear statement with this investment and Bethesda (not to mention the other devs under XGS) that they are changing the gaming landscape, entirely. And their doing it in a way that Sony and Nintendo cant touch -- that's not just financially. Not to mention they just spent over $100 billion in less than a year! Azure is a huge motivator behind these mega acquisitions. Subscription and cloud based gaming are the future. No other company out of the Big 3 can deliver that.
 
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yurinka

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Dude, you dont spend $70 Billion with expectations of making your money back faster. $70 Billion is the very antithesis of "quickly". You invest that kind of money for the long game. $70 Billion says, "we don't need Sony or Nintendo money". And I'm just stating the obvious on that last quote. The fact Microsoft paid that kind of money in CASH, means that money was just lying around not being used. Do you really believe Phil and Co need Sony at this point? $70 Billion says, "we aren't even thinking about Sony". You guys keep thinking that Microsoft is still conducting business the traditional way. Only Sony and Nintendo are still doing traditional business.

Microsoft just made a clear statement with this investment and Bethesda (not to mention the other devs under XGS) that they are changing the gaming landscape, entirely. And their doing it in a way that Sony and Nintendo cant touch -- that's not just financially. Not to mention they just spent over $100 billion in less than a year! Azure is a huge motivator behind these mega acquisitions. Subscription and cloud based gaming are the future. No other company out of the Big 3 can deliver that.
They are a corporation and not a charity, so obviously want to turn their investments into profit asap. They obviously want to recoup it but not today or tomorrow. Obviously a $80B investment isn't a short term bet, it's a long term bet specially when they put the new ones day one on a subscription.

MS already had a lot of money 20 years ago when they debuted with Xbox, but Sony ousold them every generation. To have money doesn't mean to outperform their competition. Now with ABK, MS Gaming still makes less revenue than Sony (and way less if they stop making games for them), still has less of the console and game subs has half of the userbase of the Sony ones.

To recoup that money yes, they need the Sony and Nintendo money. For that reason they kept all the previous games of these acquired companies on these platforms, kept updating them and releasing new dlcs and games for them. Plus in the case of Switch, a few ports. And this is why Spencer begged Sony and Nintendo to allow them to put GP on PS and Switch.

The clear statement that MS, AB and Spencer said even in the SEC filling is that they will keep them on PS, that they will continue supporting their existing communities on non PS platforms and that they won't remove from there and that the acquisition won't change previous AB plans.

Spencer said they want to keep CoD in PS and in the SEC filling even mentioned Minecraft as example: an IP where the main game has been updated on PS after acquisition and its next games (Minecraft Story Mode and Minecraft Dungeons) were released on PS after acquisition, and that will honor pending deals. They also did and made the same for Zenimax: PS got all the updates, dlc and games released after acquisition for the IPs that already were on PS before acquisition, plus also honored their deal with Deathloop and will do it with Ghostwire Tokyo.

They aren't changing the gaming landscape, this is only PR bullshit. They will be the 3rd public gaming company after Tencent and Sony in revenue, and won't be also market leaders on console, PC, mobile, game subs or VR. PS4 has around 120M and PS5 seems on track to outsell it. If CoD sells 20-30M and around half of that is on PS, then pretty likely each CoD gets only bought by less than 10% of the Sony userbase and only a portion of them would leave if exclusive, let's be generous and say slightly under 5% of the PS userbase.

They would steal 5% of the userbase of a competition that doubles them in userbase and is experiencing a big growth this year, generates more revenue and posts great profits. That means that with this growth, PS in a few years they would have compensated that lost 5%. They wouldn't have changed anything but have spent $70B in acquisitons and would have been keeping the money from the PS CoD on the table. And not the 30%, they would keep there the 70%.

So since they wouldn't change basically anything the gaming landscape with making CoD exclusive, they prefered to keep it on PS. Because they aren't changing it anyways but at least they get that money from the PS units so they will recoup their investment faster, and due to the $60/$70 on PS vs $15/month on GP pricing some will play it on MS platforms anyways (which doesn't mean they need to leave PS to do that, many players have both consoles or a PS and a PC).

Some games will now Xbox (sometimes timed?) console exclusives, mostly their new IPs, but other ones will remain on PS, mostly existing IPs there before acquisition. King will continue the same on mobile as it was but with a different owner. AB will continue the same on PC but selling less due to games included on GP.

Even on PC, Blizzard and CoD on GP could help them get more users vs the competition because dropping the entry price. But most of their main competitors on PC are F2P games with no entry price.
 
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HeisenbergFX4

Gold Member
I don’t get it, why bother honoring anything post contractual obligations, not like Sony would share titles after they purchase someone. Microsoft got to stop being nice and start being just as aggressive as Sony
He is playing nice guy until this deal gets finalized plus we are talking close to 2 years out possibly in regards to COD so he isn't saying anything right now thats set in stone anyhow.

I still believe future CODs will be on PS and this is coming from someone who plays COD on Xbox but lets wait and see his wording once they do have total control over COD and what his demands of Sony are
 

yurinka

Member
Is minecraft dungeons on PS platforms? hmm, didn't know that. Learnt something new today.
Yes, without even an Xbox timed console exclusive. This is the timeline:
  • MS acquired Mojang/Minecraft in 2014
  • MS releases the Minecraft Story Mode episodes from 2015 to 2017 in PS3, PS4, Switch, PC, mobile and even Mac or Netflix
  • MS releases Minecraft China in 2016
  • MS releases Minecraft Earth in 2019 for mobile
  • MS releases Minecraft Dungeons in 2020 on PS4, Switch, Xbox, PC
  • As of 2022 MS released all their updates for the original Minecraft on PS and Switch and plans to continue doing it for the time being
  • As of 2022 no Minecraft game is Xbox console exclusive, all are multiplatorm
  • In 2022 MS mentions Minecraft as example when mentioning in the ABK acquisition SEC filling that they won't remove ABK IPs from other consoles but instead will continue supporting them there and that their plan is to bring ABK franchises to more platforms not to less platforms
 
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MrFunSocks

Banned
Again - there is nothing to need to recoup here. They didn’t *lose* $70bil, they invested it in an asset. That asset has value, at this stage about $70bil worth. in 5 years it could be worth $100bil and they’ve made $30bil profit off it already.

I swear most on this site have no idea how anything financial works lol. Microsoft in no way need to sell activision blizzard games on PlayStation to “make their money back”. The whole “they can’t leave money on the table” idiocy falls over as soon as you spend 2 seconds thinking about it. Did Halo Infinite release on PS5? No? Why would they leave that money on the table? Is Starfield releasing on PS5? No? Again, why would they leave that money in the table?

Microsoft don’t care about piddly little bits of revenue from game sales at this stage, they’re playing a much higher level than that. They want to be the dominant force in gaming going forward. Not getting $500 mil in revenue a year from PS COD is irrelevant to them. That’s chump change. What they want is market dominance to the point where they’re earning billions upon billions upon billions a month because they’re the de facto gaming platform on all devices, and you don’t get that by helping your competitor sell consoles and make billions.
 

onesvenus

Member
Sony often had marketing deals for CoD, so probably already had them signed for the next few ones. And a Sony leaked marketing deal document basically mentioned no Gamepass for a while after launch, I think it was during a year or so and then after that during a long period if they wanted to include it in other sub service they must gave Sony the priority and option to match the deal (can't remember the details, but that last part maybe was for an entire generation or so).

This would mean that current and future CoD games that had marketing deal with Sony wouldn't be in GP for some years, and -at least- the next ones who had signed with Sony would be multiplatform and not hoin GP for a while.

ABK, Microsoft and Phil Spencer said they won't remove CoD from PS, and that they will honor their deals even in the SEC filling. So probably it means CoD will continue multiplatform and for a while out of GP for at least the games that had active the marketing deal with Sony. When possible (maybe once the acquisition gets finalized) MS would include in GP the previous CoD with no Sony marketing deal or older enough to have expired the 'no gamepass' part of the deal if already was there when signed, and the future ones would be included in GP if not having deal with Sony or once the 'no GP part' expires after some years.
Do you really believe Microsoft bought Activision and they won't be able to make CoD exclusive or put it on Gamepass until the end of the generation? 😱😱😱
 

yurinka

Member
Do you really believe Microsoft bought Activision and they won't be able to make CoD exclusive or put it on Gamepass until the end of the generation? 😱😱😱
I think that -as they said multiple times, even in the SEC filing to their investors, regulators, analysts and the goverment of the USA- they simply don't want to make CoD exclusive (I assume because it would highly drop their revenue while PS5 would continue having basically the same market share they already have vs Xbox). So as happened with Minecraft the series would continue as multiplatform and new updates, dlcs and games would be released on PS too.

I thnk MS will include each CoD on GP as fast as possible, including day one for future ones who didn't have a deal with Sony. But if at least some of the recent and a few future ones had the same marketing deal that RE Village had, or a similar ones, these specific games may have to wait some time after the release of each game with deal to be on GP because as they said and did in previous acquisitions MS will honor pending exclusivity/marketing deals.

Again - there is nothing to need to recoup here.
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I swear most on this site have no idea how anything financial works lol.
They have to recoup an invesment of over $80B in acquisiions. Not tomorrow, obviosly in the very long term but they made a big ass investment and they want ROI and asap because they are a megacorporation and not a charity.

So they will do whatever they consider is the way that produces them more revenue in order to recoup and turn the investment on a profit, not what would make happy some fanboys from one side or another.

Their strategy has been moving away their focus on Xbox only to open it and allow all their platforms they can and when possible via GP, which they are working ultra hard to make it grow asap, but at the same time getting all the revenue they can from other places, which includes PC, the consoles (not only Xbox) and now also mobile.
 
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onesvenus

Member
I think that -as they said multiple times, even in the SEC filing to their investors, regulators, analysts and the goverment of the USA- they simply don't want to make CoD exclusive
They haven't said that, at least as clear as you say it. In the SEC filling they said they would honor the existing contracts and nothing else.
Later they said they desire to keep CoD on PlayStation but you don't know on which terms.
Talking as if you knew for sure what will happen is just fanboy talk.

They have to recoup an invesment of over $80B in acquisiions
The assets they bought haven't drop to 0-value, they don't have to recoup 80B
 

yurinka

Member
They haven't said that, at least as clear as you say it. In the SEC filling they said they would honor the existing contracts and nothing else.
Later they said they desire to keep CoD on PlayStation but you don't know on which terms.
Talking as if you knew for sure what will happen is just fanboy talk.
Let's recap what they say in the SEC, link in the OP, please notice the highlighted parts and remember it's a legal document for investors, regulators and analyst where they can't lie:

The combination of Microsoft and Activision Blizzard gives players more choice to play the games they want, ANYWHERE.


14. How does this transaction impact existing partner agreements (i.e., Sony, Google, Apple)? Will this change what we're able to offer our partners or how we structure our agreements?
· We will honor all existing commitments post close. AS WITH MICROSOFT'S ACQUISITION OF MINECRAFT, WE HAVE NO INTENT TO REMOVE ANY CONTENT FROM PLATFORMS WHERE IT EXISTS TODAY.
· We would be open to discussions to enter into an agreement TO CONFIRM OUR INTENT when it is appropriate to do so.

(Yurinka's note: After acquisition they kept updating Minecraft and released its 2 next console games of this IP on PS and Switch, there's no console exclusive Minecraft games)

17. What will the relationship between Xbox and Activision Blizzard be?
· Activision Blizzard's games exist ON A VARIETY OF PLATFORMS TODAY, AND WE PLAN TO CONTINUE SUPPORTING THOSE COMMUNITIES MOVING FORWARD.
· The transaction is about increasing the availability of Activision Blizzard's content across MORE platforms. This is consistent with Microsoft's commitment to giving players more choice to play the games they want, ANYWHERE.


18. How will this transaction affect our pipeline and existing games? How will current projects be affected by the transaction? After the deal closes, will we work on non-Activision Blizzard titles/products within Microsoft/Xbox/Bethesda?
· We do not anticipate that this news will affect the rollout of Activision Blizzard's current pipeline or existing games.

(Yurinka's note: they talk games under development, to be released in the following few years)


Then we have Phil Spencer on Twitter: 'I confirmed our intent to honor all existing agreements upon acquisition of Activision Blizzard and OUR DESIRE TO KEEP CALL OF DUTY ON PLAYSTATION'


And the MS announcement:
'Activision Blizzard games are enjoyed on a variety of platforms and we plan to continue to support those communities moving forward.'
https://news.xbox.com/en-us/2022/01/18/welcoming-activision-blizzard-to-microsoft-gaming/


The assets they bought haven't drop to 0-value, they don't have to recoup 80B
True
 
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onesvenus

Member
The combination of Microsoft and Activision Blizzard gives players more choice to play the games they want, ANYWHERE.
More choice: playing via Xcloud on PC, iOS, Android, smart tvs and other devices via browser. Everywhere because you can take progress with you independently of the device you are playing on. Doesn't mean PLAYSTATION.

We will honor all existing commitments post close. AS WITH MICROSOFT'S ACQUISITION OF MINECRAFT, WE HAVE NO INTENT TO REMOVE ANY CONTENT FROM PLATFORMS WHERE IT EXISTS TODAY.
Existing commitments and content that exists today. Does CoD 24 exist today?

Activision Blizzard's games exist ON A VARIETY OF PLATFORMS TODAY, AND WE PLAN TO CONTINUE SUPPORTING THOSE COMMUNITIES MOVING FORWARD.
The same as before, does CoD 24 have a community anywhere?

The transaction is about increasing the availability of Activision Blizzard's content across MORE platforms. This is consistent with Microsoft's commitment to giving players more choice to play the games they want, ANYWHERE.
See the first point. Even leaving PlayStation out of the picture, they are giving more options to users

We do not anticipate that this news will affect the rollout of Activision Blizzard's current pipeline or existing games.
Current pipeline or existing games means games not in development/announced might be affected

I confirmed our intent to honor all existing agreements upon acquisition of Activision Blizzard and OUR DESIRE TO KEEP CALL OF DUTY ON PLAYSTATION'
Notice the choice of words: intent to honor vs desire to keep

Activision Blizzard games are enjoyed on a variety of platforms and we plan to continue to support those communities moving forward.'
Games not released don't have any community yet.

All Microsoft declarations have been talking about present or announced games and nothing more, IMO.
I understand how they can be interpreted the other way around but I think it's just denial and nothing more. We'll see in a couple of years!
 

MScarpa

Member
Don’t need to be a fanboy to know that AB is going exclusive after the deal is closed. We litteraly just went through the exact same process a few months ago with Bethesda.

So logically if you put 2 and 2 together you should come to the conclusion that COD is gone for PS owners after the deal closes.

COD will be totally fine without releasing on PS just like every other upcoming Bethesda game.
This guy gets it! I thought I was the only one.
 

MScarpa

Member
Dude, you dont spend $70 Billion with expectations of making your money back faster. $70 Billion is the very antithesis of "quickly". You invest that kind of money for the long game. $70 Billion says, "we don't need Sony or Nintendo money". And I'm just stating the obvious on that last quote. The fact Microsoft paid that kind of money in CASH, means that money was just lying around not being used. Do you really believe Phil and Co need Sony at this point? $70 Billion says, "we aren't even thinking about Sony". You guys keep thinking that Microsoft is still conducting business the traditional way. Only Sony and Nintendo are still doing traditional business.

Microsoft just made a clear statement with this investment and Bethesda (not to mention the other devs under XGS) that they are changing the gaming landscape, entirely. And their doing it in a way that Sony and Nintendo cant touch -- that's not just financially. Not to mention they just spent over $100 billion in less than a year! Azure is a huge motivator behind these mega acquisitions. Subscription and cloud based gaming are the future. No other company out of the Big 3 can deliver that.
BOOM!!! This man speaks the truth. Preach!
 
I think that -as they said multiple times, even in the SEC filing to their investors, regulators, analysts and the goverment of the USA- they simply don't want to make CoD exclusive (I assume because it would highly drop their revenue while PS5 would continue having basically the same market share they already have vs Xbox). So as happened with Minecraft the series would continue as multiplatform and new updates, dlcs and games would be released on PS too.

I thnk MS will include each CoD on GP as fast as possible, including day one for future ones who didn't have a deal with Sony. But if at least some of the recent and a few future ones had the same marketing deal that RE Village had, or a similar ones, these specific games may have to wait some time after the release of each game with deal to be on GP because as they said and did in previous acquisitions MS will honor pending exclusivity/marketing deals.


They have to recoup an invesment of over $80B in acquisiions. Not tomorrow, obviosly in the very long term but they made a big ass investment and they want ROI and asap because they are a megacorporation and not a charity.

So they will do whatever they consider is the way that produces them more revenue in order to recoup and turn the investment on a profit, not what would make happy some fanboys from one side or another.

Their strategy has been moving away their focus on Xbox only to open it and allow all their platforms they can and when possible via GP, which they are working ultra hard to make it grow asap, but at the same time getting all the revenue they can from other places, which includes PC, the consoles (not only Xbox) and now also mobile.
At this point I guess the only thing we can do is to wait and see how it all plays out. Honestly, I don't think your predictions will age well, but only time will tell.

To me, the points you place a strong emphasis on seem largely irrelevant, inaccurate, or circumstantial at best. Of course everyone will have their own take on it though, so we'll just have to wait and see.
 

93xfan

Banned
Put yourself in MS shoes. You just spent 68 billion on Activision. Now do you…

A. Publish COD on PS. Make some nice profits. Get a cut of the huge micro transactions. Also put it on pc/ xbox/ streaming etc.

B. Don’t publish COD on PS. Putting your foot on the neck of your biggest competitor. Huge COD playerbase now has to buy an Xbox/ PC or get fucked. Most console buyers will sign up for gamepass because why wouldn’t you? Rake in gamepass subs + nobody else gets a cut of the micro transactions.

Now keep in mind you are Microsoft and have unlimited cash at your disposal and are already balls deep in loss leader mode.

Tons of things they could do. Release games earlier on platforms with Gamepass. same with betas.

Use it as leverage and get Sony to let Final Fantasy 7 Remake, Street Fighter 5, etc on Xbox along with other deals to make it more of an even trade.

My go to is asking for an unused IP to go to MS per each post acquisition release:

1. Socom
2. Jumping Flash!
3. Jet Moto

Guarantee MS would respect those IPs better
 

yurinka

Member
More choice: playing via Xcloud on PC, iOS, Android, smart tvs and other devices via browser. Everywhere because you can take progress with you independently of the device you are playing on. Doesn't mean PLAYSTATION.
PS is included in "anywhere".

Existing commitments and content that exists today. Does CoD 24 exist today?
CoD series/community exists today and CoD 24 will be part of it. They use Minecraft as example, the post acquisition Minecraft updates, Story Mode and (released many years after the acquisition) Dungeons didn't exist before the acquisition.

The same as before, does CoD 24 have a community anywhere?
Yes, the CoD community on PS, Xbox and PC and 'moving forward' CoD 24 will be part of it. As it was the case of the Minecraft and Zenimax IPs, which got their post acquisition new updates, dlcs and games on PS. No post acquisition console game of these IPs has been Xbox exclusive.

Current pipeline or existing games means games not in development/announced might be affected
The complete sentence is:
"How will this transaction affect our PIPELINE AND existing games? How will current PROJECTS be affected by the transaction?
·We do not anticipate that this news will affect the ROLLOUT of Activision Blizzard's current pipeline OR existing games."

This specific sentence talks about the 'ROLLOUT' of current PIPELINE/projects (meaning stuff like updates/dlc/games they are working on, some of it unannounced) or existing games.

Basically means the acquisition won't affect existing games or the projects they are working on (or the way they are working on), so each worker will continue doing whatever they were doing normally on their current projects, as if there was no acquisition.

This specific sentence doesn't include games that they still don't have in the pipeline, meaning future games they didn't start to work on/plan/producing/pre-producing.

Notice the choice of words: intent to honor vs desire to keep
Intent to honor one thing (current ageements, signed deals they have with Sony, stuff they must do).

Desire to keep another thing (CoD on PS, ouside deals they're free to do whatever they want with CoD after the acquisition, and they desire to keep it on PS).

Games not released don't have any community yet.
In the case of a new IP they don't have a community. In the case of an stablished IP the new games are mainly focused to the fans of the series, their community, as it is the case of the new CoD and Minecraft (examples they did use) games released.

Notice Spencer said CoD (series) instead of a specific game (Warzone, this or next's year CoD, etc).

All Microsoft declarations have been talking about present or announced games and nothing more, IMO.
I understand how they can be interpreted the other way around but I think it's just denial and nothing more. We'll see in a couple of years!
Depends on the sentence. Notice when talking about 'pipeline' or 'projects' (stuff they are working in on different stages of the project: in pre-production, production or post launch support, this may pretty likely also include unannounced games) or 'post close' (after summer of 2023), or when talking about series/communities/fanbases. Or when honoring deals, which may be game specific deals (which I think its the big majority of the cases), or for all the games of a series during a generation, or for a 'X amount of games' deal.
 

Clear

CliffyB's Cock Holster
They care that the 30m selling a year IP you just paid 68 billion for sells 30m copies or the equivalent on Gamepass.
An extra 2-3 million subs ain't gonna cut it.

You literally could not pick a worse fit for Gamepass than current-form CoD.

Well actually, I guess WoW is even worse, but that's not on consoles.

To be honest, I'm actually wondering if they will actually integrate anything but legacy ABK product into Gamepass at all. They might simply choose to make an exception to the day#1 rule for it going forwards.

I suspect the recent news of Netflix losing $50 billion off of their valuation due to weak forecasts could impact their planning going forwards. Because its shown that there is a ceiling on growth and subscriber count, and it gets lower the more parties enter the market.
 

DrAspirino

Banned
Microsoft don’t care about piddly little bits of revenue from game sales at this stage, they’re playing a much higher level than that. They want to be the dominant force in gaming going forward. Not getting $500 mil in revenue a year from PS COD is irrelevant to them. That’s chump change. What they want is market dominance to the point where they’re earning billions upon billions upon billions a month because they’re the de facto gaming platform on all devices, and you don’t get that by helping your competitor sell consoles and make billions.
Exactly THIS.

Also, most people here seem to fail to see the user tracking potential this purchase brings to Microsoft. The wider the game offer, the wider the audience and the more user data generated from those games. They already get tons of telemetry data from Windows and Office, and they'll get even more from inside games. That data is worth more money than PlayStation sales of X or Y game.

Also, the game they're playing in gaming is the same game Amazon, Google, Facebook and Apple are playing in other areas in tech: mindshare.

iPhone is the defacto "premium" phone in general public mindshare. Google is the defacto search engine worldwide. Whatsapp (owned by Facebook) is the defacto messaging app worldwide, and Amazon is the defacto online retailer in most 1st world countries (as well as the defacto platform for game streamers). Microsoft? they plan to be the "defacto" company for gaming, no matter the device (heck, you can access Amazon from a fridge and Whatsapp from a feature phone ffs), just as they're now the defacto place to work (they are the standard with their Office suite).
 
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