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[Geometric-Crusher]

We are dozens of us .gif com'on man we sega fans are in the boomer zone. My love for the dreamcast was real but Sega can't pull this one off . I mean they couldn't back in the day when they we stronger.

Sega fans are getting old but we still consume games. The Dreamcast that you liked so much was made by a Sega that was one step away from bankruptcy, do you realize , now the current SEGA has more money than they ever had before, they have games with commercial appeal that they never had before. Sonic still is an IP with a good sales flow, I will prove this, Sonic Generations sold 1.85M but this Sonic x Shadow ( remaster plus) will sell more possibly even though it isn't a completely new game. After Sega tells us what Super Game is, we will know if there will be a return or not, sooner or later stay tuned.

 

[SEGAvangelist]

I'd buy 10.

 

[RetroGamingUK]

It's amazing that Sega fans really can't let go it's like seeing kids wishing for santa at xmas. Sega is never coming back into the hardware realm the best you can hope for is another mini console or unrelated plug n play. Even getting them to release a saturn or DC mini would be a push, people always going on about the diehard fans but in the realworld they mean shit it's easy to talk about the glory days but sega needs people to buy stuff not just talk about it. MD mini was only created because it was cheap to do so, to even try to do their later consoles it would end up been so expensive they would take a hit as outside the bubble of fandom they will not sell enough to make it viable.

They are no longer in a position where they can throw away millions on hardware risks, they fucked up in the md era with pointless hardware additions and slowly paid the price which is why we only get games from them now.

Exactly

I'd love a Dreamcast 2 complete with the best ever versions of Sonic, Jet Set Radio, Virtua Fighter, Daytona, Sega Rally, Shinobi etc

I'd love that more than anything in the world, but I have absolutely no faith in modern Sega delivering it.

And even if they could they'd be up against the huge, loyal fan bases of Sony and Nintendo who wouldn't want to swap.

If they couldn't do it in 1999, why would anyone think they could now?

 

[SportsFan581]

By the standards of today, they didn't have a large enough number of fans to be relevant in their heyday. A new console from them would sink like a stone IMO.

 

[old-parts]

The only console's that would make sense for Sega are;

1) Buy Evercade console maker which is for retro enthusiasts who still want physical copies of old games and a system to go with it, Sega could integrate that into their retro business and it may benefit from Sega branding/marketing.

2) Partner with Valve and release a Sega Steam Gear handheld on the Steam store, not some after market PC handheld but a SteamOS device, Sega branding may help along with being on Steam.

That's about it, Sega has no reason to build anything like a modern day console with the massive costs that entails.

They could make a "retro" console to appeal to old-schools fans with an SDK and digital store front but that's already the domain of the Evercade.

 

[Kruza]

I was and still a big time Sega fan mainly because of their historic dominance in the arcade scene once upon a time. However, I would not encourage Sega to re-enter the console market in this era of the video game industry. For various reasons -- fair or unfair -- the Sega brand name and its overall public image just doesn't resonate like it once had decades ago when they were actually among the titans of the industry, and this reception isn't going to change anytime soon.

 

[Geometric-Crusher]

Not only is it unfeasible for SEGA to be able to compete in today's hardware market, but there is also the issue of games developed by their in-house studios.

Especially Sonic Team and Sonic games, despite having a huge fandom, SEGA is unable to release quality Sonic games, being these always in a range between okay and bad.

This speech is a thing of the past Sonic games have been operating only on Okay since 2022.
it's impossible for it to be bad again. Sonic X Shadow generation is better than people are saying, this is being underreported and needs to be said so that old assumptions don't override the truth.

 

[crazyriddler]

This speech is a thing of the past Sonic games have been operating only on Okay since 2022.
it's impossible for it to be bad again. Sonic X Shadow generation is better than people are saying, this is being underreported and needs to be said so that old assumptions don't override the truth.

The thing is that a platform cannot sustain itself with only okays games, just ask Microsoft.

 

[RSLAEV]

I don't think the company has what it takes to support a hardware platform, but I think it would be nice if they created some kind of Sega culture/community portal where users can gather and be Sega fans together. Maybe have discussion forums, music/image archives and special events

 

[Crayon]

That is such a terrible reason to make a console.

 

[namenotfound]

I like Sega games more than Sony and Microsoft, plus their pace of output is great, I don't know if they have any games that can carry hardware sales like Nintendo. They'd need to get Fortnite and other multiplayer shooting games and sports games. To me it sounds like they'd lose money especially if they made games exclusives. Maybe match or sell better than the Xbox if they get third party free to play live service game support, but their single player games if they don't get some that go viral and sell consistently like Nintendo games - lose money compared to if they didn't invest in a console and stayed selling on Nintendo/PC/PlayStation

 

[BlackTron]

I refuse to believe this guy is really serious about all the stuff he says. I just can't believe it. It's too much.

 

[Geometric-Crusher]

if you look you will see that Sega is bringing back 6 ips.
3 from the Genesis era, 1 from the Saturn era and 2 from the Dreamcast era
streets of rage, shinobi, Golden Axe, Virtua Fighter, Crazi Taxi and Jet Set Radio.
6 games were what Sega used to release in the first few months of a console.

 

[thefool]

Day one.

 

[RetroGamingUK]

Sega have rightfully reclaimed their place as world's greatest games company.

With Microsoft having thrown the damn towel it's time for Sega to exact revenge on Sony and Nintendo

Sega tops Metacritic list of the best game publishers for third year

Metacritic has released its annual rankings of the best game publishers of the year and there's not a big name American company in the whole top eight.

metro.co.uk

j/k

 

[jcorb]

Much as I would love the idea, it probably just isn't super realistic. Not unless they wanted to throw their hand in the ring with a "handheld gaming PC" to compete with Steam Deck or the ROG thing.

That said, I would absolutely KILL for a "Dreamcast Mini" console. Saturn would also be cool, but realistically that should probably skip that since the demand really isn't there. But you give us Sonic Adventure 1&2 Dreamcast versions (with all their "dlc" included), and PSO, I would be super down for that.

 

[Geometric-Crusher]

There is no empty room in the market Sega will come back to fill that role.

Sega will return

 

[DeVeAn]

It's a different world now. Sony brute forced there way in. Microsoft tried the same. Nintendo is the last of its kind. SEGA can't play at that level. Sony had the TV division carry them. Microsoft can do that as well with office etc.. Float Xbox maybe that's near the end too. As far as actual games, SEGA has better IPs IMO.

 

[metareferential]

There's no incentive for a new console: the tech race is dead. Consoles are more or less built with off-the-shelf components and some custom hardware.

Everyone abandoned in-house tech.

Sega got left behind once the market shifted from the arcades to the living room.

There's no coming back from that. And no, it doesn't have more games than before, actually it's the opposite.

And we all know the market buys big triple AAA games.

 

[Thabass]

Nostalgia alone won't make money.

This. It's nice to think that this is a thing that could be monetized well, but people like new experiences. There's nothing wrong with Genesis Mini that released, but that won't keep players happy for long. Players crave new experiences and if you release a new console just to appease to the fans and games of yesteryear, there will be no room for growth and you will become stagnant in the first year of release.

I like Sega's current strategy with releasing new experiences with their existing IPs. Bring back games like Jet Set Radio and Crazy Taxi and making them smaller scale experiences will do well for them, I think. As long as the budget isn't super big that is...

 

[Danjin44]

Those same "nostalgic fans" will disappointed with new Sega console because whole idea of these nostalgic fans is about everthing old is good and everything new is bad.

 

[Hudo]

It's a different world now. Sony brute forced there way in. Microsoft tried the same. Nintendo is the last of its kind. SEGA can't play at that level. Sony had the TV division carry them. Microsoft can do that as well with office etc.. Float Xbox maybe that's near the end too. As far as actual games, SEGA has better IPs IMO.

This is the unfortunate truth.

 

[RetroGamingUK]

Those same "nostalgic fans" will disappointed with new Sega console because whole idea of these nostalgic fans is about everthing old is good and everything new is bad.

Pfft, Sega's latest games are great, they're in a new golden age.

 

[Kamina]

Sega Uranus!

 

[Putonahappyface]

Sega aren't coming back, it's time to move on.

 

[Papa_Wisdom]

 

[RoboFu]

I honestly think sega would make money by re-releasing the genesis and making new games for it.

they could put out a new cart that lets you access a digital store but have it built into the new console.