Rabid Dwarf 76
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How good are you at fighting games? How much is your time worth to you?
SFV: 2017 Deluxe Edition includes Season 1&2. $79.99 (On Sale: $47 on Steam)
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Professor Lexicovermis
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Mainly, I'm referring to the characters, as the costumes don't really concern me. Thanks!
Good to know Hard and Extreme aren't worth it. I'm not gonna torture myself; besides, I'm not really interested in the costumes.
Pretty good? Probably take me a while to learn SFV. Time wise, as long it's not gonna ruin the game for me, I'm fine with a bit of a grind.
Then you should be fine. Win a few Ranked & Casual Matches, blow through Easy & Normal Survival (& at least attempt Hard Survival for your mains), do the Trials, complete all of the Story content (both the Character Stories & the Cinematic Story Mode), watch all of the Demonstrations, & complete the Daily Challenges, and you should be good to go.
Also, each DLC character has their own Character Story, Trial, Demonstrations, & Survival runs, all of which net you Fight Money. Basically you can earn back a good chunk of the Fight Money you spent on the character by just playing the character in said modes.
Ooh, interested in this. I just bought S1 pass but will refund if this is 3 keys.
Brian_FETO
Banned
Dunno how familiar you are with Survival mode but this is how it works
Easy is 10 stages of virtually braindead AI until like the last fight (basically "very easy" difficulty)
Normal is 30 stages, first 10 are the run from Easy, the next 10 range from like "easy" to "medium" difficulty. The last 10 are between "medium" and "hard" with the AI really waking up in the last 3/4 fights
Fights are one round and your Health and Super carry over from the previous round, and you pick a powerup from a random list of buffs (the upgrades are the same but the power of the upgrade varies each time). Generally you either pick health or attack up.
Normal survival takes like 20 minutes to run through
Easy is 10 stages of virtually braindead AI until like the last fight (basically "very easy" difficulty)
Normal is 30 stages, first 10 are the run from Easy, the next 10 range from like "easy" to "medium" difficulty. The last 10 are between "medium" and "hard" with the AI really waking up in the last 3/4 fights
Fights are one round and your Health and Super carry over from the previous round, and you pick a powerup from a random list of buffs (the upgrades are the same but the power of the upgrade varies each time). Generally you either pick health or attack up.
Normal survival takes like 20 minutes to run through
Professor Lexicovermis
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Sounds straightforward! I didn't know the characters came with that too, that's nice that you can essentially make your FM back! Thanks for the tips!
Hmm, sounds simple enough if you learn your character. Thanks!
You don't earn all of the Fight Money you spent on the DLC character back, but you do get a good chunk of said Fight Money back by playing the purchased DLC character in question.
Professor Lexicovermis
Member
Oh, I figured it wouldn't be a 100% refund; a head start is nice though.
Yeah. Either way, I'd suggest just getting the whole bundle while the discount is in effect. You can put the Fight Money you saved towards future DLC characters in Season 3 & maybe Season 4.
Professor Lexicovermis
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Honestly, I'm just using up a Christmas gift card, so I'm just gonna buy the basic game + some other sale games. That way I get more mileage from the card. I honestly don't mind a bit of a grind. After all, I have all the Custom Moves in Smash 4, and that's a heck of a grind, trust me. That said, I appreciate your advice!
If you managed to get all of the custom moves in Smash 4, you'll be just fine in terms of grinding for Fight Money in SFV (which, honestly, is more straight-forward compared to the living hell that was getting custom moves in Smash 4).
Professor Lexicovermis
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Heh. It was a nightmare, that's for sure.
In my case, I had to endure the grind since I was a TO for my local Smash scene (& as such, I had to bring my set-up for tournaments). Of course, this was during the 2015 season, when custom moves were legal.
Professor Lexicovermis
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Ouch. I did it because I wanted to have all the options open to me. I'm not too masochistic though, I didn't dare try things like 9.0 Classic with no deaths.
Yeah, I'm just thankful that the Fight Money grind isn't nearly as bad as the custom move grind. Then again, the custom move grind was on another level of hard.
Professor Lexicovermis
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Why in this world did they think it was a good idea to allow multiples of the same custom move? I must've earned 20 copies of Meta Knight's Side3!
I sometimes wonder the same question. Giving us a means to just buy the custom moves with the metric shit-tons of coins we have would have been nice, too.
Professor Lexicovermis
Member
Agreed. No idea what to do with the mountains of gold I've acquired by grinding.
joffocakes
Member
If you watch the Demonstrations, complete the combo trials and easy/normal survival for each character you'll earn 31,500 for character. That's 504,000 for the 16 starting characters. If you also beat the cinematic story mode on normal and extra difficulty (30k for normal, 50k for extra) you'll have almost enough to buy all 6 Season 1 characters.
If you go through the demonstration, trials and survival again for those 6 that's another ~200,000k so you can have Akuma and a wee grind for whoever's next.
It's harder to build fight money after that. You earn very little from playing online other than the bonus 1000 each time your character levels up. There's usually 5000 from a very easy weekly challenge (right now it's knocking and opponent down to the right of the Brazil stage a few times, even in offline versus mode).
Professor Lexicovermis
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Seems fair enough to me! As I said above, I don't really mind a little grind. Can you earn money by doing survival multiple times with the same character?
joffocakes
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Nah, just one time per character per difficulty. That's why the earn rate for fight money slows pretty significantly once you've done all the single player content you can manage.
I'm sure they'll add more modes with a fight money bonus.
I'm sure they'll add more modes with a fight money bonus.
Professor Lexicovermis
Member
Mm. That stings a bit. Ah well. Doing the weeklies oughta help a good bit. There are 7 DLC chars counting Akuma, right?
From the ones that a released so far, yeah. 5 more coming with season 2.
Professor Lexicovermis
Member
Alright then. I appreciate everyone's responses! I decided to jump in and bought the basic game.
Guys wat do should I jump in on this?Wait a second. I already own the game on PS4. I don't own Season 2 on PS4. There's really no reason for me to buy the Season 2 pass, is there. I almost certainly should just buy it on PC for the extra 17. That's shitty.
Also, this game fucking rules. If you don't own it, buy it. Game is great.
You can just earn the Season 2 characters with Fight Money on your PS4 if you so choose.Guys wat do should I jump in on this?
I guess? But at the same time I like buying stages with my fight money...
Everything? You're gonna be spending a LOT of time on the game, almost an ungodly amount. I've bought the season passes and still don't own every stage, let alone costumes.
The game has a ton of content that costs Fight Money including characters, colors, titles, stages, little accouterments for your player profile, etc. You can buy everything in the game with Fight Money except for the following:
- Premium Costumes which is every alternate character costume except a character's "Story" costume which you can buy with FM
- The Capcom Pro Tour stage and colors which were a limited time only and no longer on sale
However, it's quite possible to unlock every character and every stage with FM. Just beating the relatively easy stuff with the base 16 characters gets you around 500k which is enough for 5 DLC characters. But the benefit of the season passes is that they give you the characters which are big sources of FM (netting you around 30k+ for doing the easy stuff) so you can use that FM to buy the Story costumes and alternate stages.
Barkley's Justice
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I can't get the dpad to work using Stram PS4 controller suport feature.
I will agree with others on this and say no , you'll need 700,000 FM to buy every current DLC character and another 500,000 FM to get the forthcoming 5 other characters. You'll need 280,000 FM to unlock the 4 dlc stages plus another 160,000 FM to unlock the stage variations (a couple of which are seasonal). Completing every character story plus cinematic mode will only get you about 350,000 and it seems you earn nothing from survival mode now , that means you'll need about 100,000 wins in casual / 4ranked combined with every weekly challenge to earn the rest. Capcom has made it virtually impossible to get all this stuff for free.
Coffee Dog
Banned
No. It isn't even feasible for characters unless you play every single day.
You can get some quickly through grinding the single player stuff, but that well quickly runs dry and after you get a few characters it becomes extremely slow to accumulate.
I play this game a decent amount. I have gotten every DLC character for free, plus have 100k in fight money in reserve, plus still have not done the story mode (another ~80k), plus have only done like 1-2 characters worth of normal survival mode. I didn't buy any stages or costumes with my fight money. I'm pretty sure I'll be able to get every Season 2 DLC character for free especially considering how easy all these weekly challenges are. You can usually get at least 5k fight money each week within 5 minutes of playing.
This isn't really true. I'm not positive as I don't have any way to test my hypothesis out, but I'm pretty sure I can get at least the first 6 characters from a freshly bought copy of the game within 24 hours. Remember that character story mode and whatnot gives you experience and every level up you get is 1000 fight money.
Saint Gregory
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Yeah, this is pretty shitty. It won't even let you add the bundle to your cart if you own SFV already. Fantastic way to treat the folks that bought the game day one.
It's 14.99 separately for season 1 and 29.99 seperately for season 2.
Unless there's something I'm missing.
Saint Gregory
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It may be some kind of store error but if you already own SFV it shows you the bundle cost as $32.83 for the remaining items (season 1+2) but it doesn't allow you to add them to your cart.
Wait...what do you mean you earn nothing from Survival? I haven't played this game seriously in months and I was debating with myself whether to jump back in and knock some characters Survival out just to get money to buy things. I also don't wanna go online.
Dark Ninja
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If you own the base game and Season 1 you should be able to get enough FM from them to get the Season 2 characters unless you spend it on dumb stuff like titles and themes. You might have to beat the trials and Survival on Normal though at least. If your mostly gonna play online the stages don't really matter since you'll eventually run into every stage. The Character Passes(season passes) are worth it my opinion just cause you get the battle costumes.
Saint Gregory
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I'm probably going to go this route but I'm going to wait a few days to see if Steam opens up the bundle to folks that have SFV already. The sale price is until the Winter sale ends right?
It kind of sucks that the stages aren't included too but at least most of them are just existing stages at different times of day.
Lets not resort to lies okay. Survival still gives you FM and exp the same amount it always has given. Servers are a bit crap now though so you might not get them first time but if you replay it you will get them.
Don't buy the bundle. Buy them seperate. I was able to get season 1 on sale without the bundle.
joffocakes
Member
If you mean the boxer, yes. If you mean the spanish ninja, no.
Professor Lexicovermis
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I should really edit my first post. All I really care about earning is the characters; MAYBE a stage or two, but primarily the characters.
its 1 key btw, they got back to me