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Shadows of the Damned - |OT| of Demons and Girlfriends from Hell
- Thread starter ToyMachine228
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I remembered this game today after seeing an ad on YouTube. When it was announced, I was interested, but not sold in it.
Then I watched the trailers posted earlier in this thread. Loved the aesthetic and the humor, but the gameplay looked dull in the boss video. Still on the fence.
Then I saw ths post:
I said wow. Day fucking 1, price drops be damned. Looks amazing. So glad we're getting it now, so it won't be buried in the fall. Everyone interested in this game should watch the footage posted above.
Then I watched the trailers posted earlier in this thread. Loved the aesthetic and the humor, but the gameplay looked dull in the boss video. Still on the fence.
Then I saw ths post:
Dr. Kitty Muffins said:
I said wow. Day fucking 1, price drops be damned. Looks amazing. So glad we're getting it now, so it won't be buried in the fall. Everyone interested in this game should watch the footage posted above.
Dr. Kitty Muffins
Member
Aske said:
I'm glad you like the link.
If anyone happens to like that link, do me a favor and send it to all your gamer friends on facebook.
ToyMachine228
Member
Dr. Kitty Muffins said:
It's great to see Mikami and Suda together talking passionately about the game. Thanks for posting this.
I really need final impressions from a Grasshopper/Suda51 hater to know if I should get this. It sounds like my cup of tea, a more faster RE4-style game, but I need to know if it came together from someone who is aware of how awful Suda51/Grasshopper can be before I dip.
I know one of you people will dip in and risk it!
I know one of you people will dip in and risk it!
Ridley327 said:
be that as it may, I need it from someone who hates Suda51/Grasshopper. Their games have pretty much all had terrible gameplay and concepts that are otaku-fodder like NMH, so I need to know this one is different from those who are with me on that boat!
Then I can help the game sell 6 copies instead of 5
Amir0x said:
Then I'd say just wait another week or so for some neutral or unbiased impressions( not from Suda's extreme fans/worshipers or super haters)I don't trust the first few days impressions because usually people like the shiny new things and just aren't too deep into the games.
ToyMachine228
Member
Music to my ears.
ILOVEASIANS
Member
"He can transform into a gun and motorcycle at times." lawl.
I really want to play this but I don't know if I want to pay $60 for it as I'm kind of strapped for cash at the moment. I don't want to pay full price for it then see it go for 40 bucks a month later.
I really want to play this but I don't know if I want to pay $60 for it as I'm kind of strapped for cash at the moment. I don't want to pay full price for it then see it go for 40 bucks a month later.
Community Forum
Member
I know this game will be $40 a month after it comes out, but I can't resist getting this on day one. Maybe one day I will learn my lesson.
ILOVEASIANS
Member
Gravijah said:
Yeah, hence my hesitation. Even more so since a good chunk of GAF didn't even know it was coming out on Tuesday and the lack of marketing from EA.
The Xtortionist
Member
I'd like to know if this is worth buying for someone who considers RE4 to be the best game of all time.
Dr. Kitty Muffins
Member
Amir0x said:
Dude, I work at Walmart and I'm jumping in. I think you can afford it.
Dr. Kitty Muffins said:
of course I can afford it. I just have thrown my money in the fire over enough Suda51/grasshopper games to know to be extremely wary of anything they touch. Precaution dictates I hear from someone else in the truth to know of whether someone like me could like this
do you like boss fights? shooting lots of things and then more boss fights? occasionally a qte?Amir0x said:
no wait, let me simplify that. do you like resident evil 4's gameplay cycle?
also your stance on dick jokes, dick puns, dick guns, dick dicks, tits and so on?
hmm...let me clarify. do you like bawdy humour, awful puns and occasionally disturbing titillation?
do you enjoy awful characters like Dante and everyone else in the worthless Devil May Cry setting?
wait that question was unfair. what if you played a self-aware and referential DMC game? would you like that kind of weird surreal style? what if it borrowed some grindhouse/sexploitaion vibe?
buy the game
Drinky Crow
Banned
sounds like re4 done right
well I like grasshopper games because of the mysterious nature of some of them.
killer7 was intriguing enough that I finished it despite not really knowing what went on and despite that I was bored while "playing" it.
no more heroes I did not play much of, as the stages I played had little to keep me interested though the style was fun.
I wonder if Suda has an auteristic theme with respect to repetition, but nothing else supports that theory so I suspect he just doesn't know how to make games engaging to play, so adds more enemies as a three hour game won't sell.
that said I think he has a lot to add aesthetically, something I appreciate more than Kojima's cinematic influences.
so no, not a hater. I just don't think he makes fun games when he sits in the designers chair
killer7 was intriguing enough that I finished it despite not really knowing what went on and despite that I was bored while "playing" it.
no more heroes I did not play much of, as the stages I played had little to keep me interested though the style was fun.
I wonder if Suda has an auteristic theme with respect to repetition, but nothing else supports that theory so I suspect he just doesn't know how to make games engaging to play, so adds more enemies as a three hour game won't sell.
that said I think he has a lot to add aesthetically, something I appreciate more than Kojima's cinematic influences.
so no, not a hater. I just don't think he makes fun games when he sits in the designers chair
WrathOfOtaibah
Banned
That quote about playing like a mikami game is just enough for me to get hyped up even more! Suda51's craziness, Mikami's gameplay, a mix of punk rock and metal with a b-movie presentation and some juvenile humor.
This will be sick!
Jesus dude we all know you hate Suda51 games, either take the plunge and buy it or erase it from your mind.
This will be sick!
Amir0x said:did you hate Suda51/grasshopper games?
I am of course only interested in this because it has Re4-style gameplay sped up, but I need confirmation from a hater! Be honest if you are!
Jesus dude we all know you hate Suda51 games, either take the plunge and buy it or erase it from your mind.
KaotikMind said:
...just ignore me if you don't like hearing it. It is an honest inquiry. I am genuinely curious about this and don't want to waste my money. It is not important to repeat the thing, even though I am just as entitled as anyone else to do so, as it is to get the information so that I may buy it close to its launch if a Suda 51/Grasshopper hater emerges to confirm it as a quality title. I am not going to 'take the plunge' since I've been burnt too many times. I will 'take the plunge' if I get impressions like the ones I asked for since I'll feel more safe to do so
WrathOfOtaibah
Banned
Well you are looking in the wrong place, cause most of the guys who are excited for this like Suda51 to some degree. I personally love the guy's games but I do see how theya ren't the best technically.
If there are publications out there who are known to hate him and give him shit reviews, I guess that's your safest bet. But in the end anyone who hates the guy could have some bias in that they will belittle anything with his involvement.
If there are publications out there who are known to hate him and give him shit reviews, I guess that's your safest bet. But in the end anyone who hates the guy could have some bias in that they will belittle anything with his involvement.
KaotikMind said:
You're making the mistake of thinking that these threads are for only one type of fan and that others with different perspectives are either not welcome or don't exist. There have been many fans in this topic alone who have expressed apprehension due to Suda 51/Grasshopper's involvement who I am sure would be similarly glad to have impressions from someone of like mind to know whether to dip.
And also, KaotikMind, it is absolutely sad to say that because they might dislike a previous title they must have bias and belittle all future titles he is involved with. I play games, not companies. I won't risk my money again blindly, but I absolutely will admit if the game is good if I end up playing it after the impressions I ask for. The whole goal is to enjoy myself. What good does it do me to pretend I didn't? What good does it do for anyone else to pretend? What profit is there in that?
WrathOfOtaibah
Banned
Hey man I'm just saying that gaming "journalism" is just a bunch of fanboys to some degree so I wouldn't trust them. And these official threads due have the occasional "I don't like the guy behing it but I'm interested" people like you for example but all in all official threads are almost 95% people who've been hyped for the game from the beginning.
we're not going to have trolling accusations here. Your name is fucking Garcia Hotspur and you're a junior member and you're trying to accuse ME of some sort of insulting intent to disparage this game. As a junior member you're walking on thin ice and you're going to toss that out? Be glad I deleted the post instead of banned. A genuine inquiry is not a troll. Further, this is a gaming industry forum. Many of our users get games early for review or simply manage to get their hands on a title in one way or another. Or maybe they even played a near final preview build. So it is extremely likely that I could get impressions early.
Right but I'm asking for a GAFer impression, not a 'journalist' impression
KaotikMind said:
Right but I'm asking for a GAFer impression, not a 'journalist' impression
WrathOfOtaibah
Banned
But from people who hate Suda? Highly unlikely.
Why not just wait for a pricedrop or two? This game will eventually bomb anyway.
Why not just wait for a pricedrop or two? This game will eventually bomb anyway.
RustyNails
Member
Mikami is one of my gaming heroes so this one is in my sights. But I've purposefully avoided reading all the previews and impressions so far, wanting to be pleasantly surprised. What's the general consensus from hands-on reports and previews?
KaotikMind said:
This game is made by a LOT of other people too. In fact that is one of the primary reason I am managing to stay interested - because besides the RE4 inspiration, some of the OTHER people are actually talented. This is one of those games that can fall either way.
Can't I ask for such specific impressions in peace? Why does it always have to seem sinister to people? I just want to know whether to spend my money, since I like to get in on launch day if possible for all the games I buy.
WrathOfOtaibah
Banned
It wasn't what I would call sinister, but asking the same thing over and over when it didn't work the first 5 times is pretty demanding.
So don't worry about it, you'll get your impressions come the 21st.
So don't worry about it, you'll get your impressions come the 21st.
Snapshot King
Member
Amir0x said:
Rox, I gotta ask, for clarity's sake. What parts of Sudas games (or all of them, is that the case) that makes you a hater? Because if it's the actual game design, I can absolutely see why, as the guys consistently released crazy games with fucked up design choices that make actually playing them kinda crappy.
KaotikMind said:
I ask like, two or three times at various intervals spread out when new people came into the thread to see if there was a new batch of people who might fit the criteria. You just turned the issue into something bigger than it had to be; most people would have moved on and never even noticed. Relax!
Snapshot King said:
It is definitely typically the huge design/gameplay issues. In the first NMH, for example, the dreadful mini-games and borderline unplayable city hub and framerate. Coupled with the repetitious "meat bags" that you must cut through to get to the only decent part of the game, which was the bosses. Killer 7 speaks for itself with its bizarre gameplay document. Infuriatingly designed. Most of their titles are like this. Maybe a decent concept perhaps but just imploded by some of the most bizarre gameplay decisions ever.