Skyfall 007 Info Thread - NO SPOILERS

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duckroll said:
I just read the press conference transcript. I hope they don't really literally mean it when they say that the film has no connection at all with the last two movies. Even though QoS was a mediocre movie, the journey of Bond's new rebooted origin kinda requires the concept of Quantum to be expanded on. If they just drop it... I'll be a little disappointed.
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Dropping it for a single film doesn't mean they can't revisit it in the future. I also think Quantum isn't entirely out of the question for this film (it's just not continuing the whole Vesper-angst subplot, which was satisfactorily wrapped up).

Just look at the Fleming novels - a bunch of them deal with SPECTRE and SMERSH, and a bunch of them (Dr. No, Diamonds are Forever, Moonraker, off the top of my head) bear no relation to either organization.
 
duckroll said:
I just read the press conference transcript. I hope they don't really literally mean it when they say that the film has no connection at all with the last two movies. Even though QoS was a mediocre movie, the journey of Bond's new rebooted origin kinda requires the concept of Quantum to be expanded on. If they just drop it... I'll be a little disappointed.
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I think they mean that in more of a narrative sense. QoS relied heavily on CR, whereas this will be a clean break. It's not going to carry on anything directly from the first two films but it's still part of that continuity. Hopefully they go back to Quantum in the future, because I too would be sad to see it all thrown out.
 
duckroll said:
I just read the press conference transcript. I hope they don't really literally mean it when they say that the film has no connection at all with the last two movies. Even though QoS was a mediocre movie, the journey of Bond's new rebooted origin kinda requires the concept of Quantum to be expanded on. If they just drop it... I'll be a little disappointed.
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The relationships and character development will follow through from the previous movies..I just think they've found a way to continue all that without using Quantum as the villain. Unless there's a bit of misdirection going on.

I sort of felt like Quantum wasn't overly threatening. Mr. White was not really a shadowy figure (plus I doubt we'll see him back after he trashed the films)..and the only real role Quantum could play would be to supply a villain for Bond to kill a third time. After all, they were pretty much a joke in the opera scene..Bond just mocked the shit out of them before killing a bunch of their randoms.

Now, if Skyfall established Blofeld or some other powerful multi-film villain..and then found a way to connect that figure with Quantum? Sign me the fuck up.
 
I'd love to see Blofeld reestablished but I'd rather he be an entirely separate recurring villain from Quantum. What's cool about Quantum is that it seems to be decentralized and leaderless.
 
Ignatz Mouse said:
I found that to be more in line with the (relatively) realistic nature of the movie and book. Blood tears may have been a bit silly, but I found him threatening enough.
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I just couldn't see a mid-level accountant that was labeled 'most likely to defect' as a threat. He's essentially the bookkeeper from The Untouchables.
Hell, the whole reason for the baccarat poker tournament was that it was a last ditch attempt of a desperate man.
 
duckroll said:
I just read the press conference transcript. I hope they don't really literally mean it when they say that the film has no connection at all with the last two movies. Even though QoS was a mediocre movie, the journey of Bond's new rebooted origin kinda requires the concept of Quantum to be expanded on. If they just drop it... I'll be a little disappointed.
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Heres what I fully expect:

- the first 95% of the film is separate and self contained, dealing with Bardem. Then the film ends with Fiennes appearing as Blofeld, leader of Quantum, boss of Bardem. Dat cliffhanger.
- Bond 24 is Bond vs Quantum/Blofeld.
- Mendes does both.
 
Solo said:
Heres what I fully expect:

- the fist 95% of the film is separate and self contained, dealing with Bardem. Then the film ends with Fiennes appearing as Blofeld, leader of Quantum.
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What if the movie ends with Bardem escaping, after narrowly failing to kill Bond off (but succeeding at the majority of the larger plan anyway), and then he pulls his face off and reveals that he's Feinnes?

Oh wait, sorry, this movie isn't directed by JJ Abrams. My bad.
 
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Denmark wins :_(
 
Oh well. At least we'll get MI4 a day or so early...along with whatever is attached.


duckroll said:
You seem awfully excited about a movie which hasn't even started filming yet. :)
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I don't understand it myself.
 
Dunno why, but I'd always figured they'd re-do Auric before they re-did Blofeld. Nonetheless, I'd be done for Fiennes doing that. I highly doubt he'd be at the top of Quantum though, that would just be bizarre.
 
I gotta have to order tickets for that October 23 showing, still can't believe we're gonna be the first ones with the premiere. Excited.
 
Craig's looking old. Too bad they wasted his and everybody's time in QoS.

Synopsis doesn't really interest me but Sam Mendes is enough to be moderately excited about the project. Finally a truly great director working on the franchise.
 
I feel like I have a vastly different view on what I consider mediocre when it comes to Bond. 80% of the Brosnan movies are mediocre for example. While QoS wasn't on CR's level, I still think it was a good enough flick.

Maybe it's just me though. Anyway, pretty excited for this. Good director.
 
No, I think you are spot on. Brosnan's tenure was woefully bad. Each of Craig movies are better than any of Brosnan's.
 
Solo said:
Heres what I fully expect:

- the first 95% of the film is separate and self contained, dealing with Bardem. Then the film ends with Fiennes appearing as Blofeld, leader of Quantum, boss of Bardem. Dat cliffhanger.
- Bond 24 is Bond vs Quantum/Blofeld.
- Mendes does both.
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I'm expecting if Blofeld is really back they use some elements from the YOLT novel in Bond 24. Always thought that'd be a good way to end Craig's run.
 
I'd LOVE a faithful adaptation of YOLT, but doing such would a) first necessitate a remake of OHMSS, and I don't think EON has any interest in remakes, and b) piss off non-book reader fans (ie. most of the fans).

But I would love it. Give me faithful adaptations of Live And Let Die and Moonraker too, please.
 
Solo said:
I'd LOVE a faithful adaptation of YOLT, but doing such would a) first necessitate a remake of OHMSS, and I don't think EON has any interest in remakes, and b) piss off non-book reader fans (ie. most of the fans).

But I would love it. Give me faithful adaptations of Live And Let Die and Moonraker too, please.
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That stuff would be awesome, *but* I feel like a lot of it (especially Moonraker's ex-Nazi plot) is so rooted in the era in which the novels were written.
 
badcrumble said:
That stuff would be awesome, *but* I feel like a lot of it (especially Moonraker's ex-Nazi plot) is so rooted in the era in which the novels were written.
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That is true, but that was also the case for Casino Royale and they modernized that quite nicely.
 
Solo said:
I'd LOVE a faithful adaptation of YOLT, but doing such would a) first necessitate a remake of OHMSS, and I don't think EON has any interest in remakes, and b) piss off non-book reader fans (ie. most of the fans).

But I would love it. Give me faithful adaptations of Live And Let Die and Moonraker too, please.
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We've gone over this before... and I agree 100%.

I wouldn't mind if they updated the better adaptations, either, with modern flavor. but these three were done wrong the first time (LaLD being the best of the three).
 
How the fuck does a place like Ethiopia get this movie before Canada? That's pretty depressing.
 
Mgoblue201 said:
Logan has impeccable credentials (including a Tony Award), but his one huge blemish is Star Trek: Nemesis. I'm always reticent to assign too much blame or praise to a screenwriter; this is especially true for Star Trek, in which creative decisions were mostly made by a cabal consisting of Rick Berman and a few others. I always wondered how much control Logan actually had over the story.

Anyway, Peter Morgan also offered his considerable writing talents to Skyfall, and Mendes has final say on all creative decisions, so there is very little to worry about. I've liked everything that Mendes has directed. Even Jarhead was decent, if unspectacular. Give him something with so much potential like Bond and I think he'll run with it.
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what i meant by what I quoted being an understatement was that it was pretty weird for someone to check out John Logan's track record and be all like "meh, he's ok i guess"
 
Ignatz Mouse said:
but these three were done wrong the first time (LaLD being the best of the three).
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They were done ALL wrong. Moonraker book --> film is such a travesty. My god. Damn Star Wars being a hit....
 
Solo said:
They were done ALL wrong. Moonraker book --> film is such a travesty. My god. Damn Star Wars being a hit....
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The funny thing is that Moonraker's one of the few books *actually about* a doomsday weapon - which should've been a perfect fit for film-Bond - and they STILL managed to fuck it up.
 
Solo said:
They were done ALL wrong. Moonraker book --> film is such a travesty. My god. Damn Star Wars being a hit....
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Moonraker is the most horrific stand-alone, YOLT is the biggest lost opportunity, LALD is mostly just buried in the camp of it all.
 
Yep. So sad.

Also, now that they've used most of Fleming's book titles, they should start using his Chapter titles instead.

Bond 24: How To Eat A Woman
 
Bond did look damn stylish in QoS.

Moonraker is a great movie. I've meekly defended it before, but re-watched it last week and concluded it is tremendous fun.
 
No more clever inclusion of the '007' inside the title huh...
unless, they go for the release schedule and pull a

OCTOBER
.......2O11
...........7
 
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