Skyward Sword review thread [Newest Reviews - Cubed3 10/10, GC: A, AusGamers: 7/10]

Jaded Alyx said:
Is it me, or has Nintendo been far more interested in Zelda's 25th Anniversary than Mario's?

..and of course Metroid's.
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Can you blame them? Zelda is far cooler than Mario.
 
IceDoesntHelp said:
Man, the guy at gamestop today was an absolute jerk. I hate him.
"Are you guys gonna break the streetdate on Skyward Sword?"
"Uh no, are you stupid?"
"...Okay."
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It was an inappropriate response but it was kind of a dumb question, wasn't it?

"Are you going to knowingly violate your agreement with the publisher?"
 
Sinthetic said:
Those mods are stupid, leave the game as it was originally planned.
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Damn I hate this shit. Games aren't some holy thing you're not meant to touch or whatever.

RagnarokX said:
It was an inappropriate response but it was kind of a dumb question, wasn't it?

"Are you going to knowingly violate your agreement with the publisher?"
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You'd be surprised to hear what some clerks told me when asked the very same thing regarding other games.
 
Holy Order Sol said:
Damn I hate this shit. Games aren't some holy thing you're not meant to touch or whatever.
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I always feel like I'm playing some bastardization of the game. Like I got a book and I started editing out the sections I don't like with white-out and wrote in my own funny remarks.
 
Shiggy said:


lol
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The next step is swapping your Loftwing with Ghirahim.
 
Dityrink said:
It'll probably be really buggy but I can't wait to see it in HD.
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There are some HD shots of the demo in the Dolphin thread right now. Your mileage may vary on how the DoF/paintbrush effect looks, but it's freakin' gorgeous overall.
 
ViewtifulJC said:
I always feel like I'm playing some bastardization of the game. Like I got a book and I started editing out the sections I don't like with white-out and wrote in my own funny remarks.
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I look at it on a case-by-case basis. A mod can be good or bad based on what it actually is, it's not bad just by virtue of being a mod.
 
I think I'll love hearing the reasons why TSA thinks TP is better than SS.

Though, if I read: "Because no motion control", I'm gonna choke a bitch...

EDIT: Man, the people on the Zelda Universe are having fun with TSA's quote.
 
You should have acted

the low scores are already here

the Review Thread told of their return

their embargo was merely a delay

to the time after @IGNRich Tweeted

when the Fans of Zelda would spill their own blood

but no one wanted to believe

believe they even existed

and when the truth finally dawns

it dawns in 8.8's
 
ShockingAlberto said:
So would you say someone who enjoys Final Fantasy XIII is objectively wrong?
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It's difficult. On the one hand, everyone will approach a work in a different manner and get different levels of appreciation out of it. On the other, though, there are prejudices and opinions which are detrimental to the critical appreciation of some games which *will* stand in their way.

Nothing will ever top OoT on average scores, I think. Not because games are *worse* these days - far from it - but I think that gamers have got more closed-minded. We have our archetypes, now, and straying from the archetypes will piss off *someone*. But then sticking rigidly to them will piss off someone *else*.

OoT was the last great game released at a time when the majority of the gaming audience were sufficiently receptive to new ideas; 3D console gaming was still in its relative infancy, and this was a new take on an old idea. Skyward Sword is going to suffer - not because it's bad, but because it's just a bit too *different*. And I don't think that's a good reason to mark a game down, but it *is* a reality of the gaming audience.

The opposite's also true. Uncharted 3 is a great game - but it's a bit too *similar* to what came before, so it suffered as a result with some of the reviews. Some of the audience, though, are perfectly content with More Of The Same. UC3's brilliant for them.

I think there's a distinction between "Will traditionalists like this game?", "Will people looking for new experiences like this game?" and - criticially - "Is this a good game?". And the best reviewers review relative to the final question by ORing their thoughts about the first two - but that requires them to have an understanding of both mindsets, and many don't. I certainly don't, for one!

However, I do believe one thing, one critical thing from the reviews I've read: Skyward Sword has *moved the games industry forwards*. Is that something you should mark on? Hard to say. But it's certainly a criteria that interests *me*, personally.


Edit: As a quick other aside: I reckon Feep loved the game, he's just being cagey to mess with our minds. His phrasings of protestation are a little *too* carefully worded :-)
 
mclem said:
It's difficult. On the one hand, everyone will approach a work in a different manner and get different levels of appreciation out of it. On the other, though, there are prejudices and opinions which are detrimental to the critical appreciation of some games which *will* stand in their way.

Nothing will ever top OoT on average scores, I think. Not because games are *worse* these days - far from it - but I think that gamers have got more closed-minded. We have our archetypes, now, and straying from the archetypes will piss off *someone*. But then sticking rigidly to them will piss off someone *else*.

OoT was the last great game released at a time when the majority of the gaming audience were sufficiently receptive to new ideas; 3D console gaming was still in its relative infancy, and this was a new take on an old idea. Skyward Sword is going to suffer - not because it's bad, but because it's just a bit too *different*. And I don't think that's a good reason to mark a game down, but it *is* a reality of the gaming audience.

The opposite's also true. Uncharted 3 is a great game - but it's a bit too *similar* to what came before, so it suffered as a result with some of the reviews. Some of the audience, though, are perfectly content with More Of The Same. UC3's brilliant for them.

I think there's a distinction between "Will traditionalists like this game?", "Will people looking for new experiences like this game?" and - criticially - "Is this a good game?". And the best reviewers review relative to the final question by ORing their thoughts about the first two - but that requires them to have an understanding of both mindsets, and many don't. I certainly don't, for one!

However, I do believe one thing, one critical thing from the reviews I've read: Skyward Sword has *moved the games industry forwards*. Is that something you should mark on? Hard to say. But it's certainly a criteria that interests *me*, personally.


Edit: As a quick other aside: I reckon Feep loved the game, he's just being cagey to mess with our minds. His phrasings of protestation are a little *too* carefully worded :-)
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To simplify it a bit, I think it has to do with standard of judgment. Film goers/ gamers are swayed more by an emotional\aesthetic response than a critic who judges off of structure and execution.

Of course, all these standards appear on curves. A very "hardcore" gamer might dislike Final Fantasy 13's linearity (an objective flaw)..but enjoy its story/art design/ music..etc (an emotional/aesthetic response). Although they may try and say otherwise, they have no substantive reason for loving the game even though they see it as flawed..it's mostly an emotional/aesthetic response. Perhaps they have a soft-spot for indulgent JRPG's or something.

So, a person who enjoys Final Fantasy 13 is not objectively wrong about the fact that they enjoyed Final Fantasy 13. That's emotional/aesthetic/subjective, whatever you want to call it. However, if they go on to insist that objectively provable flaws are not present, then they're making an objective error. You can't objectify a subjective response. "I enjoyed this because I like bright colours and enjoyed the story! Therefore it's not linear."

Think about it, do you ever see someone leaving a theater going "Boy was that great! What a structurally sound film!". That standard is really only important in a deliberate bit of criticism and isn't the sole standard of judgement for an average consumer (although the effect a flaw can have on enjoyment is obviously implied; these things are mutually exclusive and they all interact, just in different ways and in different measures for different people).
 
Holy shit. I'm 20 minutes in and the music is already the best in the series. Nintendo has done some god damned wizardry on the hardware as well. What the fuck.

Also,
First Person mode? didn't see that coming!

and

One of the first things Link does
is shitting on the toilet!? Pants on, but still.
 
Expected complaints (not that I necessarily agree with them) :

- Nice art style but the graphics could be better
- Where is Epona?
- Still no voice acting
- Dowsing is awkward
- Dungeon revisists & lack of new dungeons
- Ghirahim gets the "Zant" treatment.

8.8
 
Lunar15 said:
You should have acted

the low scores are already here

the Review Thread told of their return

their embargo was merely a delay

to the time after @IGNRich Tweeted

when the Fans of Zelda would spill their own blood

but no one wanted to believe

believe they even existed

and when the truth finally dawns

it dawns in 8.8's
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lol
 
Hiltz said:
Expected complaints (not that I necessarily agree with them) :

- Nice art style but the graphics could be better
- Where is Epona?
- Still no voice acting
- Dowsing is awkward
- Dungeon revisists & lack of new dungeons
- Ghirahim gets the "Zant" treatment.

8.8
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You know, Skyrim addresses several of these potential complaints.

Kidding! Kidding.
 
ViewtifulJC said:
I always feel like I'm playing some bastardization of the game. Like I got a book and I started editing out the sections I don't like with white-out and wrote in my own funny remarks.
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Very well put.
 
I kinda wish Ahoi-Brause was still around. It would be fun to read his walls of text about how Skyward Sword is the culmination of all the suffering and evil that Aonuma has unleashed on the world since he began working on 3D Zeldas.
 
Hiltz said:
Expected complaints (not that I necessarily agree with them) :

- Nice art style but the graphics could be better
- Where is Epona?
- Still no voice acting
- Dowsing is awkward
- Dungeon revisists & lack of new dungeons
- Ghirahim gets the "Zant" treatment.

8.8
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I swear if that last point is true.. I am going to blame you for spoiling it
 
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