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[M74]

Score completely aside, that Gamespot video review is nearly impossible to listen to. The guy sounds like he struggles to fluidly read a script. Oy.

The control scheme seems to be awfully divisive.

 

[Medalion]

Wow. That's a weird combo breaker.

But not entirely unexpected... I figured they would be the first to drop the sub-8 score for a major site

Score completely aside, that Gamespot video review is nearly impossible to listen to. The guy sounds like he struggles to fluidly read a script. Oy.

The control scheme seems to be awfully divisive.

The same could be said about motion controls in general

 

[Hiltz]

Just breathe.

 

[ViewtifulJC]

They should TP his house!!!!!!

Copies of TP thrown all over the house with snarky notes written on them. "You think THIS was better!?"

 

[boiled goose]

Maybe it's because no one else really does that style of platformer at such a high quality, so it's easier to hold the interest of someone who plays a lot of games. While there are very few Zelda equivalents, there a ton of games that are tangentially similar, so it's much more difficult to stand out. Because of these similarities, it inherently invites comparisons to games that may be better in some sort of specialized way that Zelda isn't. As a jack of all trades, Zelda is a master of none. It's a tough battle to win when your combat is being compared to God of War, the scope of your world to Elder Scrolls, and your narrative to a game with a good story that I can't think of right now. Those are terrible examples, but I think you get what I mean. Well, that's my theory, and it's probably wrong, but there you go.

yup.

which is why I think Zelda needs to become more Zelda and do it well. Cut the filler.
That or Nintendo needs to go balls to the wall with the production value and compete with other studios in all of those aspects.

 

[SteveO409]

My heart hasn't felt pain in such a long time........since 8.8 happened

 

[nincompoop]

Wind Waker was much better than Sunshine.

Uhh, not really. Both games felt rushed and incomplete, but several of the levels that actually made it into Sunshine were among the best in the series, while every single dungeon and forced side quest in Wind Waker felt completely half-assed.

 

[Lunar15]

Score completely aside, that Gamespot video review is nearly impossible to listen to. The guy sounds like he struggles to fluidly read a script. Oy.

The control scheme seems to be awfully divisive.

This is the only review I've seen so far that really harped on the control scheme.

 

[JWong]

What number was the shitty score?

Oh nevermind about BF3. AV Club gave Uncharted 3 a 50/100

 

[TheGreatMightyPoo]

Score completely aside, that Gamespot video review is nearly impossible to listen to. The guy sounds like he struggles to fluidly read a script. Oy.

The control scheme seems to be awfully divisive.

Not really, most really like the controls.

I've only heard about two sources that didn't and only like one poster.

 

[BertramCooper]

If I had to hazard a guess, it's because many of them either moved onto other genres (RPGs or character action games or whatnot) and expected Zelda was going to change with them, like they thought there was some deterministic evolution of the series in progress where Zelda would eventually become something else new and therefore shinier and better by default.

Yeah, I see your point.

As far as I'm concerned, Zelda is still unmatched in its own specific category of gaming. I'll never understand how people get tired of it.

Maybe it's because no one else really does that style of platformer at such a high quality, so it's easier to hold the interest of someone who plays a lot of games. While there are very few Zelda equivalents, there a ton of games that are tangentially similar, so it's much more difficult to stand out. Because of these similarities, it inherently invites comparisons to games that may be better in some sort of specialized way that Zelda isn't. As a jack of all trades, Zelda is a master of none. It's a tough battle to win when your combat is being compared to God of War, the scope of your world to Elder Scrolls, and your narrative to a game with a good story that I can't think of right now. Those are terrible examples, but I think you get what I mean. Well, that's my theory, and it's probably wrong, but there you go.

For me, the dungeons have always been the meat of a Zelda game. And in that respect, Zelda is still very much at the top. Games like Okami, God of War, and Darksiders aren't even close in this particular area.

 

[Kevtones]

I know it's a running joke but I might actually cancel my preorder for real.

We got Gigglepoo'd.

 

[Hellsing321]

Come on guys. Weak responses like this isn't going to get another Destructoid article about us.

 

[pramath]

:lol
This is excellent!

 

[-COOLIO-]

This probably isn't what people want to hear but I really feel like websites like Gamespot are at least trying to introduce a bit more scale for their grading. The 8-10 scale is becoming way too commonplace.

A 7.5 on their scale is "good". Its a good game.

true, and honestly that would be fantastic, but if that were the case itd be quite a coincidence that they decided to shift the metric with this particular review. $5 says after this their metric returns to normal.

i wish there was an honest reviewer out there though.

 

[guek]

This is the only review I've seen so far that really harped on the control scheme.

didn't all the other 8/10 reviews (other than feep's) say it controlled poorly?

 

[Thunder Monkey]

Guys... it's a Zelda game.

Even the worst Zelda games I'd still consider good games.

Most devs wish they could make a game as bad as any Zelda.

 

[Red]

Is this a serious question? It's impossible to please everybody. Some reviewers are fond of the game and others not so much. There will never be a perfect consensus among a variety of people on anything - Zelda is no different.

Also, is somebody going to cobble together a "Wall of Shame"? Because I'd love to cross-reference that list against those who complained about the Uncharted 3 8/10 complainers.

It's not too bad right now, but here's the list:

Never in my life have I called out a review, and I'm not going to do that now. Everyone is certainly entitled to their opinion.

That said, this just reeks of attention mongering. Basiclally the very last major review to come out, from the famous 8.8 crew, after everyone has been kinda sarcastically praying for a meltdown for the last several days. The review is significantly lower than the average and median, and at the end of the day, it's definitely fishy.

I think I would have been less cynical had this review come out on the 11th with other major sites; but as it stands, it's almost as if GS checked out what others were saying, reactions, and then played off that.

Anyway, I'm expecting this thread to get real funny real fast ;p

LOL.. hilarious. It's very, very difficult to believe that score isn't meant for page views and to be attention whores. Pretty pathetic, but the meltdowns should entertain.

Gamespot wanted a lot of hits. So what?

I have no idea if the game is going to be good or not.

But how can anyone take Gamespot serious after this review they did?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=txqZouFC-uE

What pisses me off is that probably this dude want just people to pay attention to his review.

Eh. Could care less really in the end. Going to be outliers and attention seekers.

It's a clear attention grab considering how late it is and going against everything many reviewers and normal gamers have talked about after playing the game (from the blurb and break down on the right of the review. Didn't read the review do to the potential spoiler issue.). Not worth getting upset about. People should just look at it for what it really is. Actually they should be embarrassed. It's so easy to see what they were trying to do. Then again I guess they don't care about credibility and professionalism.

Now what would be worth getting upset about is if the review really is intentionally filled with spoilers. That's pure BS and that just makes the writer...............let me stop now.

Yeah, but the review is still lol at least. Especially when it contains factually incorrect information (the part about IR) and someone beat me to pointing it out

It'd be annoying if it seemed serious. But with the "spoilers-ahoy" review and with such a notable deviation from most other scores, my initial impression is that seems like a cheap cry for hits/attention/fame(infamy).

Thankfully, I gave-up caring about our mainstream gaming media a while ago. They aren't worth the increased blood pressure.

I am pretty sure the only reason they delayed the review, was to wait for other reviews come out so their pretty low score stands out. It's the lowest score given to the game, right?

Anyhow, knowing that it has spoilers, I won't even bother reading it. Why do they include spoilers in the reviews?

Who gives a crap, Gamespot lost its integrity years ago.

They're just trying to get more hits by being "controversial".

And shitty ass move by the reviewer for the spoilers. Horrible lack of professionalism.

Why should there be? Gamespot writes a review after all major reviews are out with almost all giving very good reviews, it has factually wrong info (IR control), has spoilers, and gives the lowest score to the game?

Why should you take the review seriously were it has been written obviously to cause hits/rage?

Werid ass review.

That is all.

It does feel a bit like a poorly written bid for attention though.

Then again, I think most "gaming journalists" have the literary skills of a 7th grader, so perhaps I'm not the most objective judge.

This review really left me without words. Really.

LOL 7.5? Wow. So did Gamespot basically wait until all the reviews were out and say "fuck this, we gotta get some attention, time for some epic trolling."

Watched the video review, and it's horrible.

The complaints are, the controls are not responsive all the time and take resetting and the some of the enemies are stunned easily and do not take special gestures to dispatch them (as if pressing a button is any different anyway, but nevertheless..)

And the other major complain is that it's a retread and doesn't break from the problems of old Zelda's, which the most he described those problems as, are "Fetch quest, dungeon, fetch quest dungeon."

Uh, ok? This is the point I've made before about stupid ass reviews and stupid ass reviewers. Saying it's the same formula is NOT A COMPLAINT. The same thing could be said for other high profile games like Skyrim, Saints Row, Call of Duty, etc. What formula is changed there from the last game in the series?

Just saying "oh its the same and its the same problems" WITHOUT addressing what exactly that is or why it is bad is not a good justification for a review. How do these people get off having jobs doing this when they can't even properly explain why they give what they give? Hell, the early games of a series shouldn't even have to be mentioned, the problems with the game should be addressed on its own merits if they're antiquated and explained why they are.

Why is a succinct, well explained review difficult to come by anymore? I don't care if a game gets a 5.0 or a 10.0, you better be able to explain why the fuck it was given that score though, which is something these video game "journalists" fail to do.

so they broke their 8-10 blockbuster game review metric with zelda?

ballsy.

on the other hand the review might be a fair and just but i seriously doubt it. click bait.

Meh...honestly this is clearly a score to annoy...hopefully people don't rage and give in to the attention seeking...

Is Gamespot becoming obsolete???

I haven't gone there in years and it just looks so lifeless and halfassed in design and content.

Maybe it's always been that way.

I don't know how anyone can take the Gamespot review seriously. Movie fans will know the name Armond White. This dude seems like he wants to be his equivalent.

In response to the reviewer posting in this thread:

Are you a kid?

Have we learned nothing

Games that are better or just as good as Skyward Sword (according to Gamespot):

Saint's Row The Third
Sonic Generations
Skylanders
Driver: San Francisco
Cars 2: The Video Game
Red Faction: Armageddon
Kinectimals
Fable III

I don't think I can make a plain face big enough to express myself right now.

Not surprised by Gamespot's farce...I mean review. They have consistently scored games exclusive to Nintendo's platforms lower than the exclusives on other platforms. But 7.5? Geez, they must be struggling harder to stay relevant than I thought they were...

The GS score is BS. The review was more like an 8.5 than a 7.5.
I think the reviewer fails to understand the wii audience and the backlash he is getting is fully deserved.

I think he understands the Wii audience perfectly, at least the ones on the Internet. He's trolling for clicks with that score and that will boost his employer's revenue.

Either that or he is a manbaby who hates motion controls on principle and wanted to make a point, but I'm prepared to give him the benefit of the doubt.

nice attention seeking score from gamespot. im honestly not shocked it got a score that low from there

cant wait until this weekend and get my hands on this game. anyone going to the nintendo world event on saturday?

A 7.5 is definitely just looking to grab some attention. I mean, I haven't even played the game yet, but I can honestly say going by what I've seen in videos and whatnot, that the production quality of this game alone warrants nothing less than an 8.

Reads like attention whoring...

Our first banning! How exciting.

Gamespot is full of fat fucking reviewers who can't use motion controls anyway.

Considering all the outlets who gave the game perfect scores and Nintendo's excellent track record, I'd say the guy was probably either 1) lying down on a couch trying to play the game or 2) is just trolling for hits.

And not to mention an obvious bias against Zelda. 7.5, 8.8, 8.3

Lol. I knew there was a reason GS was waiting on its review. It wanted to wait until most of the scores are in, and then wait, then give it the lowest score it deserves. GS really loves controversy, and I'm sure they think giving this a low score will give them more hits.

Reviews tend to not get to me, but no way shape or form does this game deserve a 7.5. 8.5 is like the lowest it should get.

Why are we bitching about gamespot?

That place lost all credibility about 4 years ago.

Its like complaining maxim gave it a 2/5.

"Have you played the game?"

No? I've seen all the trailers. The art direction, the music, the everything a Zelda fan would want is pretty much in this game. I've played the demo all week, and just from the demo I'd give it a much higher score than that.

c'mon, its Zelda. This is like the lowest score of a Zelda? Nah, something don't smell right.

I find Gamespot's review highly suspicious, given the reviewer's assigning of a perfect score to Mega Man of all things, and given his assigning a perfect score to Super Mario Galaxy 2 (which I disagree with). But more importantly, I find it suspicious given his first commentary on the game, and given Gamespot's treatment of other high profile titles this year.

I haven't played the game, so I can't touch it with a ten foot pole, except to say that on the immediate surface it appears as though they singled a particular game out this year, though one wouldn't know that for sure until having played said game among the others that were reviewed.

There's less anger here and more a directed attempt to discredit his review.

I'm sure Big One has said something dumb, but I'm not taking him off ignore to see.

Basically everything walking fiend and Cygnus-X1 have said in this thread belongs here.

 

[Kevtones]

Just would like to say Wind Waker is beautiful to look at but COMPLETELY forgettable. Easily the worst 3D console Zelda.

 

[Bgamer90]

 

[Beth Cyra]

Wait my Weird Review comment was a bad one?

I would like to know how that could be considered, just look at how it's written it is weird given how much he just throws around spoilers.

A review could do that for a 10 game or a game that score 1 and I would still say it weird to do that.

 

[AniHawk]

It's a tough battle to win when your combat is being compared to God of War

ehhhhhh

 

[AniHawk]

Just would like to say Wind Waker is beautiful to look at but COMPLETELY forgettable. Easily the worst 3D console Zelda.

yeah, but zelda ii still exists.

 

[Red]

Wait my Weird Review comment was a bad one?

I would like to know how that could be considered, just look at how it's written it is weird given how much he just throws around spoilers.

A review could do that for a 10 game or a game that score 1 and I would still say it weird to do that.

You might be exempt. I don't know the full context of the remark.

 

[Thunder Monkey]

So... what do I have to say to get included on someones list?

 

[Jarmel]

He's the same reviewer that gave Infamous 2 a 7.5, and if that's any indication then this game is really a 9/10.

I would have given Infamous 2 the exact same score.

 

[JaseC]

It's not too bad right now, but here's the list:

<white space snip>

There's less anger here and more a directed attempt to discredit his review.

I'm sure Big One has said something dumb, but I'm not taking him off ignore to see.

The responses are more civil, but the end result is the same.

 

[nckillthegrimace]

ehhhhhh

I feel like more people in the Western video game press played God of War than Bayonetta.

But I'll edit my post to make you happy, geez.

 

[boiled goose]

ehhhhhh

haha.

to be honest Zelda combat doesnt really need to be anything special.
Just being able to use your items in interesting ways and having enemies that actually try to hit you would be enough.

 

[-COOLIO-]

wall of poop:

It's not too bad right now, but here's the list:

There's less anger here and more a directed attempt to discredit his review.

I'm sure Big One has said something dumb, but I'm not taking him off ignore to see.

 

[Thunder Monkey]

yeah, but zelda ii still exists.

I think he's drunk.

The low scores got to him.

 

[Red]

The responses are more civil, but the end result is the same.

They're learning.

 

[AniHawk]

So... what do I have to say to get included on someones list?

say you will never shop at gamespot again

 

[Fantastical]

I bet System Wars is crazy right now. I don't actually feel like looking.

 

[Represent.]

LMAO 7.5, suddenly that UC3 8 doesnt seem so bad

They basically call out other reviewers for being blinded by nostalgia in the review

Even with many bright spots, Skyward Sword still feels like a nostalgic retread. Those yearning for something new will be disappointed, but anyone thirsty for another exciting adventure will find plenty to enjoy here.

 

[TheGreatMightyPoo]

Is Gamespot becoming obsolete???

I haven't gone there in years and it just looks so lifeless and halfassed in design and content.

Maybe it's always been that way.

 

[walking fiend]

It's not too bad right now, but here's the list:

There's less anger here and more a directed attempt to discredit his review.

I'm sure Big One has said something dumb, but I'm not taking him off ignore to see.

Well, do you want us to give a review credit that:

1. Has had a review copy probably for a long time, but delays the review because he hadn't finished the game?
2. Has factual error
3. Gives the lowest score game received
4. Gives this score after all major reviews are out.
5. Also has spoilers (don't know what this one has got to do with this lol, but reviews aren't supposed to have spoilers specially when the game isn't out yet)

 

[Thunder Monkey]

say you will never shop at gamespot again

I will never shop at GameSpot again.

...

They have a store?!

 

[CoffeeJanitor]

The Zeldapocalypse isn't happening, as we've become numb to the complaints and review scores.

I guess, maybe people here don't want to be made an example of.

Why should there be? Gamespot writes a review after all major reviews are out with almost all giving very good reviews, it has factually wrong info (IR control), has spoilers, and gives the lowest score to the game?

Why should you take the review seriously were it has been written obviously to cause hits/rage?

Who the fuck cares, maybe they didn't like it. It's someone's opinion, man, it shouldn't make you angry.

And giving a lower score does not mean they're trolling for hits. Actually I guess people here maybe do want to be made an example of?

 

[F#A#Oo]

Meh...honestly this is clearly a score to annoy...hopefully people don't rage and give in to the attention seeking...

 

[Kevtones]

yeah, but zelda ii still exists.

It's kind of an interesting experiment at least.


I can't even remember the temple themes aside from the sweet visual of the tower sticking out of the water. Oh, and the early Fire Temple because that was in all the demos. I can remember every temple in every other Zelda.

 

[TheGreatMightyPoo]

They basically call out other reviewers for being blinded by nostalgia in the review

I don't know how you got that from that quote.

 

[Massa]

I will never shop at GameSpot again.

...

They have a store?!

They actually do.

 

[AniHawk]

I feel like more people in the Western video game press played God of War than Bayonetta.

But I'll edit my post to make you happy, geez.

oh i mean, you're right. i'm more reacting to the press's incomprehensible love for god of war's fighting system.

edit: although to be fair, a lot more people than just them are objectively wrong.

 

[EmCeeGramr]

Well, do you want us to give a review credit that:

1. Has had a review copy probably for a long time, but delays the review because he hadn't finished the game?
2. Has factual error
3. Gives the lowest score game received
4. Gives this score after all major reviews are out.
5. Also has spoilers (don't know what this one has got to do with this lol, but reviews aren't supposed to have spoilers specially when the game isn't out yet)

"lowest score received" isn't really a discrediting thing unless it's a major outlier for reasons unreasonably hard to justify

otherwise, at least one review will ALWAYS be discreditable unless they're all the same score

 

[DCharlie]

Not a single person in to Zelda is going to tolerate a negative review so i have to ask (AGAIN)

why on earth do any of you give a FLYING FUCK!?

you've already decided - some of you before playing the fucking game - so why put any weight behind ANY of the reviews?!

just man the fuck up and admit you're looking for verification of your opinions, grow up, learn to not give a shit, and move on.

Well, do you want us to give a review credit that:

WHO CARES?! move the fuck on. Fuck me.

 

[Seiru]

Well, now I know that a guy named Tom McShea thinks that Skyward Sword is a "good game".

 

[Jonnyram]

Well, do you want us to give a review credit that:

1. Has had a review copy probably for a long time, but delays the review because he hadn't finished the game?

Surely this point is a positive?

 

[guek]

The responses are more civil, but the end result is the same.

You do realize that reviews are not objectively true, right? Meaning there is such a thing as a poorly written review. This seems to be an example of a poorly written review. What's objectionable is the content of the review. It has little to do with the numerical score.

 

[perfectchaos007]

Strong emotional feelings and personal convictions aside, does anyone think Gamespot gave the score they did to increase publicity? I mean, they know what 8.8 did for buzz so who knows