Skyward Sword review thread [Newest Reviews - Cubed3 10/10, GC: A, AusGamers: 7/10]
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Foliorum Viridum
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I believe that 7.5 is his genuine opinion and I always respect that Gamespot allows their reviewers to give games the scores that they want.
I'll probably disagree with it, but that's fine, reviews are a personal thing.
I'll probably disagree with it, but that's fine, reviews are a personal thing.
viciouskillersquirrel
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I think he understands the Wii audience perfectly, at least the ones on the Internet. He's trolling for clicks with that score and that will boost his employer's revenue.dwu8991 said:
Either that or he is a manbaby who hates motion controls on principle and wanted to make a point, but I'm prepared to give him the benefit of the doubt.
walking fiend
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You don't waggle in sword fighting, you probably waggle less than 1% of the game.KaYotiX said:
Broken control is not an opinion.
EmCeeGramr
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Eh, "the world connecting those areas" was a giant circle with a few chests and caves scattered about, with the town in the middle. The main areas of the games were linear arms extending from that circle with a dungeon at the end of the "arm."Feep said:
Uh, right. Which is a problem. There is NOTHING is Skyward Sword to explore freely, and that sucks. I want to find Fairy Fountains, and hidden caves, and grottos with Heart Pieces, and all kinds of fun stuff. Nothing's there.Big One said:
And for the record, if Majora's Mask (my least favorite 3-D Zelda) did that, then I didn't like it there, either. I haven't played the game since release, which is unique among the Zelda franchise for me.
CrocMother
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Stop giving reviews power!
This is what has created the culture of "metacritic benchmarks" in the gaming industry.
This is what has created the culture of "metacritic benchmarks" in the gaming industry.
Lunar15 said:
You can't be serious.
Clock Town=Overworld
Unless we're talking about fields. In that case, every god damn overworld is barren and empty.
Well, except Majora's Mask cause it's small and you can get around with Goron Link in no time. Damn MM, why you so perfect?
That's just wrong. I've been backtracking to old areas and have found tons of secrets like heart pieces and other things I couldn't have gotten at that point in the game. Say all you want but the game does have grottos with Heart Pieces (and other things) and other fun stuff.Feep said:
Before you say something like that maybe you should attempt to play more of the game
Foliorum Viridum
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Well we don't know what went on there fully even to this day.hlhbk said:
I agree that's a dark time in Gamespot's past, but they have a history other than that of posting reviews that don't always conform.
elongation
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KaYotiX said:
There's no "waggle" swordfighting
Feep said:
Yeah, I am sad about the lack of those elements. But seriously, I'm not trying to pick apart your review or anything like that. Your complaints seem entirely realistic, and I could be feeling the same thing upon completion. I'm just so curious because I feel like I had somewhat of an idea of how this game's world worked out, and it seems similar to your description, however I find myself excited by it while you were disappointed.
BruceLeeRoy
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Another Zelda game another Gamespot Debacle! I can't believe it!
Big One, you've been relentlessly attacking any detractors of the game. Chill out. People are entitled to their differences.Big One said:
There are scattered (and few) instances of what you describe (
bomb blast and clawshot target in Faron Woods
two caves in Eldin Volcano
Stop attacking people with bullshit like "You should play more of the game." It's insulting and childish.
SirPenguin
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I think that's an opinion everyone feels they need to strongly express at least once in their lifetimes. But if you actually think about it, why do we have to move away from it? What's the alternative?scitek said:
Where else in life do we use the "full scale" in anything? Certainly not reviews for any other industry, and certainly not in school or in the workplace. So why change it here?
The reality is that it actually makes sense. Somewhere around the 5 or 6 mark there is an invisible line titled "Competent". If a game is in fact competent it is then rated on a 6-10 scale, where 6 is the lowest of low, and 10 means fantastic. Anything less is considered incompetent and not worthy of attention
TheNatural
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Cygnus X-1 said:
Good quotes and breakdown, here's the clunk of things that don't seem to have context or make sense though:
I'm not really understanding the complaint of repetition. Aren't videogames themselves an act of repetition? Aren't almost all series an act of a retread nature sometimes? What is Skyrim doing that was so different than it's predecessor? What is Saints Row doing that was so different? The fundamentals of what the game structure itself is repeats and repeats.
So we get that the game makes you go into areas different times, and the game has you do "fetch quest" which aren't exactly defined as to what is good/bad with them. You can break everything down to the most fundamental level and tear down everything in the same method the review does for Zelda, for any game ever made.
I think the last quote I underlined and everything sums it up though. If you want something not Zelda-ish, then you'll be disappointed. If you want an exciting adventure that is the same structure as what the Zelda series is, then you'll enjoy it.
I'm not really understanding though why a person is reviewing a series who has a problem with the way the series is. Like me for example, I really do not like first person shooters and really do not like RPG's. If I wrote a review stating a big time first person shooter game isn't that good because it relies on shooting things, death, and repeating that over and over then I'm basically just hating on what the type of game is, period. If I say I hate, I dunno, Chrono Trigger or something because it uses menus and I find them tedious and why can't the game let me fight battles without menus, then I'm tearing down the structure of what the game is. It's like playing Madden and hating it, because why isn't the game a baseball game instead?
That's my reviewer rant to last me a while, not just applying to this instance, but what I see often. No concrete example, and a reviewer who already holds a preference against the genre of something they're reviewing.
I definitely empathize with the reviewer when it comes to camera control in the Zelda games. I absolutely hated the camera controls in Ocarina of Time and Twilight Princess Wii where you constantly have to press Z to align the camera with Link's orientation. Wind Waker and the Gamecube version of Twilight Princess let you use the C-stick to revolve the camera which felt great. To learn that Skyward Sword has the same janky camera interface as Ocarina of Time and Twilight Princess Wii is disappointing though not "preorder cancelled" disappointing.
The problem is that you're stating blatantly false statements here, the amount of secret areas is in the game is relatively similar to any other Zelda game. Telling you you should play more of the game is perfectly valid cause you can't really know this for sure unless you find every nook and cranny where all of these secrets are located.Feep said:
Both but mostly the overworld.Jarmel said:
Lone_Prodigy
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scitek said:
It's the new "I own all 3 consoles".
Laughing Banana
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I got the feeling that many reviewers really want Zelda to become Skyrim, or Mass Effect, or Fallout......
The day Zelda turn 'gritty' like that is the day I lose hope in humanity.
The day Zelda turn 'gritty' like that is the day I lose hope in humanity.
ViewtifulJC
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Feep said:
Dude, how many people have to tell you to ignore Big One before you take their advice? Stop trying to reason with irrational Zelda Universe fanatics
TheGreatMightyPoo
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hehehehehe.Lone_Prodigy said:
Do The Mario
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Unsure what to think re the GS review as I have yet to play SS.
However, I will most likely still have a fantastic time with this game (being a massive fan of the series and action/adventure games in general).
P.s I don't understand the Spirit Tracks hate. I recently had a fantastic time with ST. The boss battles and dungeon designs were fantastic (although I would agree that some of the optional fetch quests are uninspired).
However, I will most likely still have a fantastic time with this game (being a massive fan of the series and action/adventure games in general).
P.s I don't understand the Spirit Tracks hate. I recently had a fantastic time with ST. The boss battles and dungeon designs were fantastic (although I would agree that some of the optional fetch quests are uninspired).
Cygnus X-1
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Meier said:
I understand his reasoning somehow, but I have the feeling that he was quite pissed off while writing this review.
TheGreatMightyPoo
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kayos90 said:
Seriously???
At least five reviews have pointed out these flaws. We aren't part of some massive anti-Nintendo conspiracy. We're people who play games. We didn't talk to each other in a secret IRC room before we wrote our opinions. I genuinely feel there is far less of interest to do than in previous Zelda titles.Big One said:
The overworld is empty and boring. If you disagree, cool. But ad hominem bullshit doesn't belong in this thread, or in civil discussion anywhere, so chill.
The constant handholding of this blue creature is driving me insane 
( And the communicates like "You picked up a gem identical to the last ten of them. Let's describe it again in case you forgot this meanigless text. Let's describe it very sloooowlyyyy". And the lack of difficulty. And the controls which aren't that bad but sometimes (when the motion I used doesn't work for some reason) make me really whish for a traditional control scheme. And the slow pacing. And the constant need of 'dowsing'... And the easy puzzles (they will make you feel like an idiot). This game just doesn't feel good at all (I'm at the first dungeon, hope it gets better).
Ehh, even the loading is bad (skyloft).
( And the communicates like "You picked up a gem identical to the last ten of them. Let's describe it again in case you forgot this meanigless text. Let's describe it very sloooowlyyyy". And the lack of difficulty. And the controls which aren't that bad but sometimes (when the motion I used doesn't work for some reason) make me really whish for a traditional control scheme. And the slow pacing. And the constant need of 'dowsing'... And the easy puzzles (they will make you feel like an idiot). This game just doesn't feel good at all (I'm at the first dungeon, hope it gets better).Ehh, even the loading is bad (skyloft).
