Skyward Sword review thread [Newest Reviews - Cubed3 10/10, GC: A, AusGamers: 7/10]

Medalion said:
Have u already played and beaten Skyward Sword? Maybe u can do similar in this game without realising it
I was joking and hardly consider being able to do the Water Temple before the Fire Temple a non-linear experience (I guess it is by definition, but whatever). Plus I could care less, Zelda has always been mostly linear, and I'm fine with that.
 
Zelda has always been linear. Even 'deviations' such as Ocarina is merely an illusion of non-linearity like the Mass Effect series where in the end your choice on what to complete first doesn't matter much, if any at all.

It really seems like a lot of people wants Zelda to transform into Skyrim or Fallout.

God I personally really hope that Nintendo will not take Zelda to that kind of direction.
 
Feep said:
Uh, right. Which is a problem. There is NOTHING is Skyward Sword to explore freely, and that sucks. I want to find Fairy Fountains, and hidden caves, and grottos with Heart Pieces, and all kinds of fun stuff. Nothing's there.

And for the record, if Majora's Mask (my least favorite 3-D Zelda) did that, then I didn't like it there, either. I haven't played the game since release, which is unique among the Zelda franchise for me.

Sorry, but are you crazy? Majora's Mask is the king of exploration and hidden things and side quests. I can accept your criticism toward Skyward Sword, because you played it and I did not, but MM is excellent especially with secondary things to do.

Just making some examples, the photo-quests in the swamp, the Deku-properties in the four places of termina, the sword-power up, the Ranch Romani and the Milk bar, the thief in Ikana valley, the Indigo-go band, the race near Great Bay temple and of course all the side-quests for obtaining all the masks. Considering that behind every mask there was a special side-story, it was really impressive.

Again, one can complain about everything regarding Majora's Mask, outside the side-quests and the feeling of exploration.
 
EmCeeGramr said:
i'm really disappointed in you

if i were in your shoes this thread would be an abattoir. they've have to seal it up and abandon the bones to rot. i wouldn't even judge between shitposter and innocent bystander, the blade of justice is long reaching and sharp.
between here and uncharted 3, post history couldn't have returned at a better time.

i salivate at the number of neatly archived character suicides mere inches from my grasp.
 
Feep said:
But it's "over" everything!

The underworld areas are very similar to previous games' pre-dungeon lead-ups...Death Mountain, Zora's Domain, et cetera. These areas are extremely linear (and rightfully so, this is not where "exploration" should take place), and don't really offer me what I was looking for.
And that my friend imo is perfectly valid.

I completely agree about the sky I was just kind of confused cause I really have been finding lots of hidden content in the land areas for the past few days. I think the game is going to end up having the same amount of secret areas...on the "underworld" as other Zelda games do in the long run but I guess we have to wait for heart piece walkthroughs to find out if this is an established fact or not.

To me the open world stuff in 3D Zelda games wasn't really fun except for in Wind Waker cause it just had this fantastic sense of discovery to it even though it didn't have enough content to justify that sense. There's nothing wrong with the design of it, but actually bombing or picking up a rock on the overworld that is slap dab in the middle of nowhere...is just way too obvious to me. It kind of ruins the flow cause there really is no secrets in Zelda games after the original anymore. I understand that some people enjoy this but I never did and always wanted the secrets to be more obscured like in the old 2D Zelda games, which is what Skyward Sword largely does (it's especially difficult to see cracks on walls in the desert at times). I barely even got much heart pieces and I did MANY NPC quests (all gave me Gratitude Crystals) and going back to find secrets all over the place has been a blast.
 
NBtoaster said:
Anger over a 7.5 isn't as bad as against an 8 or 8.8.

Maybe one day there will be a score actually worth general outrage.

I think 8.8 desensitized everyone.

Well, it desensitized the Nintendo fanboys. Uncharted 3 desensitized everyone :lol
 
With Metacritic for Skyward being 95 it officially off the GOTY list. It's either Batman or Skyrim now. Also pretty sure Batman AC is the first western game to get a perfect score on Famitsu. It had to really impress them to give a gaijin game a perfect score. Thus Batman>Zelda in terms of perfect scores go.
 
ZoddGutts said:
With Metacritic for Skyward being 95 it officially off the GOTY list. It's either Batman or Skyrim now. Also pretty sure Batman AC is the first western game to get a perfect score on Famitsu. It had to really impress them to give a gaijin game a perfect score. Thus Batman>Zelda in terms of perfect scores go.

Since when does the Metacritic dictates which game is gonna be GOTY?
 
overcast said:
Holy shittt. A 7.5?? Damn. I almost feel like they did it intentionally lol.

The point is: why always Gamespot? They were the ones with TP and now they're repeating the trick with SS. It would have been more believable coming from another editor.
 
Cygnus X-1 said:
Sorry, but are you crazy? Majora's Mask is the king of exploration and hidden things and side quests. I can accept your criticism toward Skyward Sword, because you played it and I did not, but MM is excellent especially with secondary things to do.

Just making some examples, the photo-quests in the swamp, the Deku-properties in the four places of termina, the sword-power up, the Ranch Romani and the Milk bar, the thief in Ikana valley, the Indigo-go band, the race near Great Bay temple and of course all the side-quests for obtaining all the masks. Considering that behind every mask there was a special side-story, it was really impressive.

Again, one can complain about everything regarding Majora's Mask, outside the side-quests and the feeling of exploration.
I said 'if'! People were saying Majora's Mask was similar to Skyward Sword in structure. I honestly don't remember much about it; I played it twelve years ago and haven't touched it since. If there was plenty of side-content, cool. = D
 
ZoddGutts said:
With Metacritic for Skyward being 95 it officially off the GOTY list. It's either Batman or Skyrim now. Also pretty sure Batman AC is the first western game to get a perfect score on Famitsu. It had to really impress them to give a gaijin game a perfect score. Thus Batman>Zelda in terms of perfect scores go.

For some reason I really feel a profound feeling of sadness when I read this sentence.
 
Feep said:
I said 'if'! People were saying Majora's Mask was similar to Skyward Sword in structure. I honestly don't remember much about it; I played it twelve years ago and haven't touched it since. If there was plenty of side-content, cool. = D

Play it, if you don't remember. Screw SS if you want, but don't miss the opportunity with MM if you can, because it is a touching and rich game.
 
Cygnus X-1 said:
The point is: why always Gamespot? They were the ones with TP and now they're repeating the trick with SS. It would have been more believable coming from another editor.
Uh, this isn't Gerstmann, so it is a new editor...

And maybe because Gamespot allow their reviewers to post honest opinions?
 
Feep said:
I said 'if'! People were saying Majora's Mask was similar to Skyward Sword in structure. I honestly don't remember much about it; I played it twelve years ago and haven't touched it since. If there was plenty of side-content, cool. = D

O_O

Play it again. Seriously, it's worth another try.

it's really fun i swear
 
In regards to fields/seas/skies, OoT and MM had it right. Zelda doesn't need a huge field...it's purpose is really only to make the game feel like it's a cohesive world. I don't even get what Nintendo wants to accomplish with these large worlds. Sidequests? Maybe...but Wind Waker had the biggest world so far, and it had nothing to do in it. In comparison, Majora's Mask had the smallest world of the 3d games, and it was packed with quality sidequests.

Nintendo doesn't make big games, they make concentrated, guided experiences. It's what they're good at.
 
Cygnus X-1 said:
The point is: why always Gamespot? They were the ones with TP and now they're repeating the trick with SS. It would have been more believable coming from another editor.

It's not even that which gets to me. It's the fact it's a lower score than what they gave Phantom Hourglass, which I'd consider to be the most boring Zelda game ever made.
 
im no fan of gamespot but they have been one of the few if not the only outlet this year to be spot on all fall/holiday.

that is all.
 
Salih said:
BREAKING NEWS:

Famitsu gave Skyward Sword 40/40

i bet i am too late again.

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Chuck Norris said:
This is avoiding a meltdown?

After Eurogamer's 8 on Uncharted 3, this is not a meltdown. Far from it.

Look at EatChildren over there, hugging his ban hammer, just itching to use it, but he can't.
 
guek said:
OH MY GOD GUYS, PERFECT FAMITSU SCORE


LET'S TALK ABOUT THIS ONE. GAME OF THE FOREVER, MIRITE?

AS GOOD AS NINTENDOGS, WOULD YOU BELIEVE!? NINTENDO NEVER LOST IT


Regulus Tera said:
BREAKING NEWS:

Nintendo didn't forget to leave a cheque with Famitsu's review copy of Skyward Sword!

They accidently sent the check to Famitsu instead of Gamespot
 
a guiding hand kills the sense of adventure. let's not revise history and act like that's the way zelda has always been.

Laughing Banana said:
Zelda has always been linear. Even 'deviations' such as Ocarina is merely an illusion of non-linearity like the Mass Effect series where in the end your choice on what to complete first doesn't matter much, if any at all.

It really seems like a lot of people wants Zelda to transform into Skyrim or Fallout.

God I personally really hope that Nintendo will not take Zelda to that kind of direction.

people don't want zelda to be skyrim, they want it to be zelda. we don't want a sense of scale, we want a sense of discovery. take OoT for instance. from the beginning, you can go up death mountain, down the river to zora's domain, and grab a bottle at lon lon ranch; in the meantime, there are fairy fountains and grottos and the things that feep legitimately wants to see. and forget about ALttP, that hyrule is all yours to discover. it's open, and even if it as an illusion, it lends a believability to the world.
 
TheNatural said:
I'm not really understanding though why a person is reviewing a series who has a problem with the way the series is. Like me for example, I really do not like first person shooters and really do not like RPG's. If I wrote a review stating a big time first person shooter game isn't that good because it relies on shooting things, death, and repeating that over and over then I'm basically just hating on what the type of game is, period. If I say I hate, I dunno, Chrono Trigger or something because it uses menus and I find them tedious and why can't the game let me fight battles without menus, then I'm tearing down the structure of what the game is. It's like playing Madden and hating it, because why isn't the game a baseball game instead?

That's one of the unfortunate things about video games.... a lot of the time games aren't very original and sequels don't add much that's new. Just because it's common that sequels don't add much doesn't mean that it's a good thing.

Also, there is no 'way the series is'. There is no reason for the next Zelda game to follow in the same tread as Ocarina of Time.
 
BY2K said:
After Eurogamer's 8 on Uncharted 3, this is not a meltdown. Far from it.

Look at EatChildren over there, hugging his ban hammer, just itching to use it, but he can't.
Well, it's fun that some of us can have a discussion.
 
A couple of interesting things I looked at before I try to pass out :

- Looking at this reviewers other scores, I did find this description for Mega Man 10 pretty funny and ironic in comparison to what he thinks about Zelda ...
"Mega Man 10 - The 10th installment in this long-running franchise proves that some formulas don't need to change"

I guess doing something new only matters for Zelda, not something as still fresh as Mega Man :P

- Gamespot has been the harshest reviewer of Nintendo games this holiday season apparently. Zelda gets a 7.5, Super Mario 3D Land gets an 8, Starfox 64 3D gets a 7.5, Kirby's Return to Dreamland 7.5

The highest reviewed Nintendo game recently? Kirby: Mass Attack on original DS with an 8.5 in September.

Just some interesting notes.
 
I really don't understand the abyss between 4-5 reviewers who gave a score less than 8.5 and other 20 who gave a perfect score or something very near to it. I really have to play the game at this point.
 
7.5? lol.

I almost care enough to protest, but no.

Don't care. Zelda on Sunday.
 
TheNatural said:
A couple of interesting things I looked at before I try to pass out :

- Looking at this reviewers other scores, I did find this description for Mega Man 10 pretty funny and ironic in comparison to what he thinks about Zelda ...
"Mega Man 10 - The 10th installment in this long-running franchise proves that some formulas don't need to change"

I guess doing something new only matters for Zelda, not something as still fresh as Mega Man :P

- Gamespot has been the harshest reviewer of Nintendo games this holiday season apparently. Zelda gets a 7.5, Super Mario 3D Land gets an 8, Starfox 64 3D gets a 7.5, Kirby's Return to Dreamland 7.5

The highest reviewed Nintendo game recently? Kirby: Mass Attack on original DS with an 8.5 in September.

Just some interesting notes.
Gamespot am Kirby and Xenoblade fanboys confirmed
 
AshMcCool said:
I'm confused. Some reviews call it a fresh approach to the series, while other critizing it for beeing more of the same.
It's pretty much both all at the same time, that's a good way to describe Skyward Sword.
 
Foliorum Viridum said:
Uh, this isn't Gerstmann, so it is a new editor...

And maybe because Gamespot allow their reviewers to post honest opinions?

I wonder how one could believe this. So are you supposing that Gamespot is the only "free" website, while all others have tied hands. Tell me please the logic behind this.
 
highspeeddub said:
That's one of the unfortunate things about video games.... a lot of the time games aren't very original and sequels don't add much that's new. Just because it's common that sequels don't add much doesn't mean that it's a good thing.

Also, there is no 'way the series is'. There is no reason for the next Zelda game to follow in the same tread as Ocarina of Time.

It doesn't make it a bad thing either, that's my point. It's not explained what is good or bad about something being recycled. Just like I said before, I could make the same claim for Skyrim or Portal 2, or any other highly rated games this year recycling what was in it's predecessors.

And the quote I pointed out summed up about what the reviewer thought about how the Zelda series is as a whole, he specifically pointed out, if you're tired of the formula and want something new, you'll be disappointed. If you're not and you want an engrossing adventure, then it's great. It's weird for the reviewer to point out if you're looking for something the series is not, while pointing out that it's similar to the older games (and thats inherently a negative), and not explaining why that is bad.

It's a Zelda game, and it's similar to other Zelda games, but the reviewer is not looking for that so it's bad without explaining why it's bad.
 
i'm shocked that there really wasn't a meltdown over this score tho. my eyes almost popped out of my head seeing that 7.5, but this thread's behavior has been almost civilized, not counting the dogpiling of feep. i think the uncharted 3 debacle opened some eyes.
 
milkyjay20 said:
i'm shocked that there really wasn't a meltdown over this score tho. my eyes almost popped out of my head seeing that 7.5, but this thread's behavior has been almost civilized, not counting the dogpiling of feep. i think the uncharted 3 debacle opened some eyes.
Zelda fans probably want to be above the selected Uncharted fans. Guarantee that this thread would be very different if Uncharted 3 didn't exist.
 
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