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[Data West]

To be fair was probably referring to happenings on other forums.




















In reply to someone stating reviewers should be allowed to assert their own opinions





Quality work once again guys. Doing us proud.

Not to play devil's advocate, but it's not also possible that a bad review exists just to get hits? Or are people only allowed to think that about Jim Sterling?

Also, a lot of them are straight up quotes from the Uncharted 3 reviews

 

[Jarmel]

Gamespot has a clear agenda against Nintendo, the Wii, Miyamoto-san, and the Legend of Zelda series in particular. All the evidence is right there in front of your faces, remember 8.8-gate?

I haven't played the game yet, but from what I've read, this is the OoT of our generation. Don't let GS stop you guys from enjoying it; I sure as he'll won't.

This has to be sarcasm.

Not to play devil's advocate, but it's not also possible that a bad review exists just to get hits? Or are people only allowed to think that about Jim Sterling?

Also, a lot of them are straight up quotes from the Uncharted 3 reviews

One thing I like about Sterling is that he straight up doesn't give a fuck. He also has on times been spot on with his reasons even if his score is on the extremely low side(Final Fantasy XIII sticking out to me).

 

[butter_stick]

Gamespot has a clear agenda against Nintendo, the Wii, Miyamoto-san, and the Legend of Zelda series in particular. All the evidence is right there in front of your faces, remember 8.8-gate?

I haven't played the game yet, but from what I've read, this is the OoT of our generation. Don't let GS stop you guys from enjoying it; I sure as he'll won't.

At "Miyamoto-san" I thought this was a joke, but now I'm not so sure

 

[TheGreatMightyPoo]

Let's compile a bunch of quotes in a huge post that takes up half the page!!!!!

 

[butter_stick]

Not to play devil's advocate, but it's not also possible that a bad review exists just to get hits? Or are people only allowed to think that about Jim Sterling?

Also, a lot of them are straight up quotes from the Uncharted 3 reviews

The review text backs up the score. As long as that is the case, you can't say it exists only for hits.

I think the Edge review did a great job justifying its score, and the Gamespot one did too. They're opinions.

 

[BGBW]

7.5? Doesn't really roll of the tongue like 8.8. I really don't see this catching on. There's was something magically about the 8.8 score. Just lower than 9, symmetrical, the fact it was a decimal rather than a percentage. That and it was the "first" of its kind.

 

[ASIS]

LOL now THAT was unexpected! LOL!

 

[Majora]

There's quite an interesting divide between the UK and US reviews. No idea why that is to be honest.

 

[Trevelyon]

I'm highly anticipating Destructoid's review........ of this thread.

 

[Jeff-DSA]

Guys, sites don't have vendettas against companies. Well, maybe Gizmodo and Apple, but they're idiots. Reviewers may carry a bias, but I don't think it's very common. Nobody is going to want to do a review for something that they're predetermined to hate.

Now a 7.5 score is something that the reviewer knows is going to raise eyebrows and cause a stir, but I don't think it's malicious in this case. I think it might have a tiny bit of "take that" infused into it, but the text justifies the score handed out.

 

[TheGreatMightyPoo]

7.5? Doesn't really roll of the tongue like 8.8. I really don't see this catching on. There's was something magically about the 8.8 score. Just lower than 9, symmetrical, the fact it was a decimal rather than a percentage. That and it was the "first" of its kind.

Maybe because there are two 8s in the score, it's like a FUCK YOU LOL FUCK YOU LOL.

7.5 just doesn't seem too exciting, it's like getting a B in a class as opposed to a D or A.

Though it's less than a B!!!!!!!!

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHH.

 

[butter_stick]

There's quite an interesting divide between the UK and US reviews. No idea why that is to be honest.

Brits are getting the game a few days earlier. Seeing as most reviewers probably lived through the PAL dark ages, it's probably a sign of gratitude

 

[Jarmel]

Guys, sites don't have vendettas against companies. Well, maybe Gizmodo and Apple, but they're idiots. Reviewers may carry a bias, but I don't think it's very common. Nobody is going to want to do a review for something that they're predetermined to hate.

Now a 7.5 score is something that the reviewer knows is going to raise eyebrows and cause a stir, but I don't think it's malicious in this case. I think it might have a tiny bit of "take that" infused into it, but the text justifies the score handed out.

I would actually think a reviewer would be afraid to hand out a score like that as they know they're going to get backlashed and their review ripped apart word by word. I don't know how professional reviewers think but I would assume that for AAA games, they would only give out that type of score if they absolutely felt the game deserved it.

 

[Rehynn]

Metacritic is still above 90, which means I've failed my mission.

Well, you said you didn't want to review the game for your site. You could have done your part and given it a 7, yet you chose to leave the fate of the metascore in other people's hands. And now you're gonna have to live with it.

 

[marc^o^]

9/10 from TheSixthAxis

For 90% of the time Skyward Sword is an absolute revelation, with perfect puzzles and well-designed locations. It also provides characters you can care about, and genuinely want to help. The motion controls also hold up well for the most part, although it will still be a sticking point for many gamers.

Unfortunately it’s that final 10% that really does disappoint. After sampling some of Nintendo’s finest work, to suddenly find yourself taking part in some extremely uninteresting, generic quests is a bitter pill to swallow.

Still, push on through and you’ll still find one of 2011′s best games.
Score: 9/10

 

[walking fiend]

To be fair was probably referring to happenings on other forums.

In reply to someone stating reviewers should be allowed to assert their own opinions

Quality work once again guys. Doing us proud.

The only quality works is your trying to stir up this into something controversial.

Just get along with it, a review with the label 'broken control' and 'IR control issues' for SS, is a broken review itself.

It's not as if none of us here haven't played the game to see whether the control is bad or not, it is not even bad, let alone being 'broken'; this is not something which even needs playing the full game.

 

[Ushojax]

There's quite an interesting divide between the UK and US reviews. No idea why that is to be honest.

It seems to me like a lot of American reviewers are incapable of separating the game from the platform.

 

[dc89]

Gamestop - "Anyone yearning for something new will be disappointed."

Hmm maybe so but don't you kinda already know what your getting with a Zelda game. A bit like a Mario game, they stick to the same successful core formula and just adapt around it.

My opinion will matter more.

 

[spekkeh]

There's quite an interesting divide between the UK and US reviews. No idea why that is to be honest.

Yeah right. You're just implying that like with their culture in general Americans don't know about quality and just want crassness, killing people and fake tits cause that's super mat00r b*tches.













You're right.

 

[Jeff-DSA]

I would actually think a reviewer would be afraid to hand out a score like that as they know they're going to get backlashed and their review ripped apart word by word. I don't know how professional reviewers think but I would assume that for AAA games, they would only give out that type of score if they absolutely felt the game deserved it.

Yeah, nobody but a straight troll would enjoy the backlash. People get nasty.

 

[Sipowicz]

it is sad because these tutorials are so unnecessary. Zelda team needs to get dismantled. until then, we can expect the same shit every time.

Zelda, more than any other nintendo series has gotten stale in my opinion. I would love to see it handled by retro or something

if nintendo must have a more traditional zelda game, make it in parallel a la new super mario brothers

 

[JohngPR]

I never should have posted what i did. Lol

I think my point was lost in the craziness, which was you shouldn't care about what they score it.

Oh well.

 

[walking fiend]

Yeah, nobody but a straight troll would enjoy the backlash. People get nasty.

They make money out of backlash and clickz.
duh?

Do you honestly think people would care about someone else giving the game a 9 or 10, or even an 8? but now, everyone wants to read this 7.5 review.

 

[Data West]

Watching someone play, it seems really wordy for a Zelda game. Like, I didn't mind the talking in Xenoblade, but it seems to drag on here from what I saw on the demo and gameplay stuff.

 

[TheGreatMightyPoo]

Zelda, more than any other nintendo series has gotten stale in my opinion. I would love to see it handled by retro or something

I wouldn't, people bring this up all the time though.

A new take on such a legendary series would be risky as it is.

A new take by a whole different maker????

I think it'd lose more than it would gain even if it was a quality product.

 

[Nessus]

This seems to be a somewhat divisive game.

I heard people who absolutely adore it, saying it's one of the best Zeldas ever. Seeing quite a few 10s given out.

Then this GameSpot guy. He is really the only one I've heard who had significant problems with the controls, but if that was an issue for him I can see why it affected his review and subsequent score he gave it.

I'll be buying it next week. I liked Twilight Princess quite a bit, and I really do want to see what a different take on the controls and overworld layout does for the series.

 

[butter_stick]

Keep Retro away from my games.

 

[ASIS]

Watching someone play, it seems really wordy for a Zelda game. Like, I didn't mind the talking in Xenoblade, but it seems to drag on here from what I saw on the demo and gameplay stuff.

Not at all actually.

 

[Cygnus X-1]

9/10 from TheSixthAxis

Needless to say you will be returning to the three territories often, but rather than tread over old ground you can use newly acquired gadgets and abilities to access new areas. Well, I say “areas” but in all honesty they are huge, doubling the size of the existing level. There just seems to be layer upon layer of new content, and just when you think you’ve seen it all you get hit with something new.
It’s a huge game, and running through just the story will see you nudge 40 hours. If you tackle all the side-quests then I can’t even hazard a guess as to how long it will take you.

Ah. This already is something different.

Of course, this being a first party Nintendo game, motion controls play a huge part. Skyward Sword relies on Wii Motion Plus rather than a normal Wiimote, and as such accuracy is increased tenfold. Link’s arm follows yours as you angle attacks, and enemies react by blocking and parrying, forcing you to find an opening.

When you have time to set up an attack it works very well, but deteriorates somewhat when you’re in a rush. For example, if you spy an enemy up ahead you can approach it; sword angled how you want it. If you’re caught off guard, however, it becomes a mad scramble to try and attack, which can confuse the Wiimote into performing a move you weren’t intending to use.

The same can be said for using equipment. When things are at a leisurely pace you can select and aim various gadgets very smoothly; it’s great stuff. The opposite is true when you’re under attack. Don’t get me wrong; Skyward Sword is a good example of how to do a fully motion controlled game, but there were times when I yearned for Classic Controller support a la Xenoblade Chronicles.

Well, now it's getting more detailed and makes more sense. Of course if some editors are going to play the game as fast as they can, they'll encounter surely that problem, according to this opinion.

However, Skyward Sword’s biggest issue is quite a contentious one. I’ve harped on about how impressive the temples and puzzles are, but it gets to a point where it seems that Nintendo didn’t know how to end the game. Remember the point in The Lord of the Rings: Return of the King film where everyone thought it had ended, but then it carried on going for another half an hour? That’s what happens here.

The game could have easily reached the final dungeon several hours before it actually does, but instead you are forced to take part in some tedious fetch quests, and an abysmal escort mission that lasts about 45 minutes, and makes absolutely no sense. One ‘quest’ in particular sticks in my mind, where the person in question actually has the item needed to proceed, but instead of giving it to you they split it into two dozen pieces and makes you swim around for an hour trying to find them. The amazing quest and puzzle design described earlier dissolves into tedium.

Ugh. This reminds me The Wind Waker's Triforce hunting at the end of the game.

 

[Chuck Norris]

I wonder how that wall will look when people start waking up

 

[Ushojax]

I would actually think a reviewer would be afraid to hand out a score like that as they know they're going to get backlashed and their review ripped apart word by word. I don't know how professional reviewers think but I would assume that for AAA games, they would only give out that type of score if they absolutely felt the game deserved it.

Don't be silly. Scores like this get handed out all the time just to increase site traffic. If the publisher hasn't got some kind of agreement with the outlet to give the game a good score, the site may as well use the review to get clicks. Not that I think that happened in this case.

Spoiler

I do think it happened in this case

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[Medalion]

The precision controls are ironically making things worse cuz people have shaky arms and aim

 

[[Nintex]]

So both Star Fox and Zelda are dead now. Thanks Miyamoto... and it lasted 25 years too.

 

[Cygnus X-1]

Keep Retro away from my games.

*Look at Prime 1, 2 and 3: brilliant*

*Look at Other M: what is this crap?*

Come one, why not?

I wonder how that wall will look when people start waking up

Did you post a review? If yes, I would be glad to read it. Thanks.

 

[wrowa]

Now this is just trolling.

 

[EatChildren]

So both Star Fox and Zelda are dead now. Thanks Miyamoto... and it lasted 25 years too.

And Metroid.

 

[Data West]

*Look at Prime 1, 2 and 3: brilliant*

*Look at Other M: what is this crap?*

Come one, why not?

Not glorious nippon, of course!

 

[Goron2000]

Gamespot has a clear agenda against Nintendo, the Wii, Miyamoto-san, and the Legend of Zelda series in particular. All the evidence is right there in front of your faces, remember 8.8-gate?

I haven't played the game yet, but from what I've read, this is the OoT of our generation. Don't let GS stop you guys from enjoying it; I sure as hell won't.

 

[butter_stick]

*Look at Prime 1, 2 and 3: brilliant*

*Look at Other M: what is this crap?*

Come one, why not?

*Looks at 2D Metroid*: brilliant
*looks at Prime*: OH GOD NO MY PRECIOUS.

 

[Medalion]

So both Star Fox and Zelda are dead now. Thanks Miyamoto... and it lasted 25 years too.

And Mario

Nearly every core Nintendo franchise release less than perfect, oh noes

 

[Cygnus X-1]

And Metroid.

I still hold some hope that Retro will resurrect it a second time, like they did with Donkey Kong.

 

[Mutagenic]

None of the reviews have changed my opinion of the game at all. I'm still going in day 1 to make up my own mind. Nintendo put a lot of effort into the game so I can't help but expect quality.

 

[TheGreatMightyPoo]

*Looks at 2D Metroid*: brilliant
*looks at Prime*: OH GOD NO MY PRECIOUS.

Prime is 2D Metroid though, just in 3D.

 

[Cygnus X-1]

*Looks at 2D Metroid*: brilliant
*looks at Prime*: OH GOD NO MY PRECIOUS.

I can agree on Fusion and Super Metroid. But Other M was a mess. Especially the mix between first-person and third-person perspectives. If you want a 2D Metroid instead of something like Prime, I'm with you, as long as it's just 2D.

 

[Trevelyon]

God! Just one more heroes of the web before I wilt and crumble, Shawn.

ONE MORE.

 

[FreeMufasa]

lol. Sonic is once again better than Zelda and equal to Mario!

Spoiler

That actually wouldn't suprise me. Generations is damn good

 

[AniHawk]

And Metroid.

and uncharted

 

[butter_stick]

Prime is 2D Metroid though, just in 3D.

I'm not going to derail this thread in to Why I Hate Metroid Prime, let's just leave it at I'd rather anybody else make a new Zelda than Retro.

Well except Square Enix or something.

 

[Cygnus X-1]

and uncharted

Not as much as Final Fantasy

 

[Chuck Norris]

Did you post a review? If yes, I would be glad to read it. Thanks.

Why would I post a review?