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Sons of Anarchy - Season 5 - Tuesdays on FX

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Nizz

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Decent episode. I'm thinking the cuts on Tig's neck, which look remarkably like those Eli's wife would have made, will mess everything up until the club / Eli figure out that Clay is behind everything.
That could be a problem for Tig on the surface, but the DNA tests wouldn't match though. Unless there's some other crazy mix up in the works...
 

tokkun

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Who cares about Unser? The fact that he's still alive after he was on his deathbed due to cancer couple last seasons is the show's biggest retcon. Miraculous recovery! In the same vein, Clay's recovery is amazing as well.

Don't forget Tara's permanent nerve damage suddenly being cured as well. Must be something in the water.
 
Decent episode. I'm thinking the cuts on Tig's neck, which look remarkably like those Eli's wife would have made, will mess everything up until the club / Eli figure out that Clay is behind everything.
Augh if this happens its so convient for the plot to blow back on jax. Then see the club split
 
Random crazy speculation/prediction. No preview spoilers, just a thought after the episode.

I kind of think the Otto thing may become the final turning point for Tara. With her not telling Jax I get the impression that she will go through with his demands, but I think he still won't recant his statement. Which will lead Tara to go crazy, but she still can't tell Jax so she kills Otto somehow. Ties up the loose ends and sends Tara into a crazy new direction.

So far this season makes it seem like Tara is on edge, but I can't really see it headed anywhere new on it's own. It would also not make much sense to ignore the logic that Tara wouldn't be allowed to see Otto unless there was some other point to it than to just drop his statement.

I'm probably way off, but I was just thinking there has to be more coming from the Otto/Tara scene.
 

oktarb

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I couldn't stand the whole kill the cop/prison guard aspect. I mean hell it's okay to sit down next to the guy that ordered it to all go down, chat it up, make business deals but the stooge prison guard HAS to get his! AND then they kill his wife too. Ya bullshit on that score.

I mean dude got his primary revenge on Tig by umm BURNING HIS DUAGHTER ALIVE in from of him.

The prison thing was all so he could show strength to his niners.
 

inm8num2

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I couldn't stand the whole kill the cop/prison guard aspect. I mean hell it's okay to sit down next to the guy that ordered it to all go down, chat it up, make business deals but the stooge prison guard HAS to get his! AND then they kill his wife too. Ya bullshit on that score.

I mean dude got his primary revenge on Tig by umm BURNING HIS DUAGHTER ALIVE in from of him.

The prison thing was all so he could show strength to his niners.

Like Jax has said at the table, they can't go to war with Pope. He could have them killed with a couple phone calls. Jax needs to roll with Pope for now and look for a smoother, less violent exit strategy.
 
Like Jax has said at the table, they can't go to war with Pope. He could have them killed with a couple phone calls. Jax needs to roll with Pope for now and look for a smoother, less violent exit strategy.

At this point, does anyone even believe that Jax is looking for an exit strategy? There was absolutely no reason he had to take Pope's deal to increase the amount of dope they mule for Galindo. No reason at all. In fact, the only reason they were ostensibly muling the drugs in the first place was to avoid the RICO case. Now they're actually doing it as a business. That's going in the opposite direction of an exit strategy.
 
I think Jax legit wants out. But until he finds the right way to get out he's going with the ol' keep your friends close and enemies closer.
 
I think Jax legit wants out. But until he finds the right way to get out he's going with the ol' keep your friends close and enemies closer.

Look we all know that the club is not 'getting out' until the show ends, more or less. But at least show him trying to get out. Getting into business with Nero was a step in that direction, but then getting involved with Pope is like 30 steps in the other direction.
 

Javaman

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Decent episode. I'm thinking the cuts on Tig's neck, which look remarkably like those Eli's wife would have made, will mess everything up until the club / Eli figure out that Clay is behind everything.

I watched the scene with the wife a couple of times and couldn't see how he got injured. He was nowhere near her hands or the shotgun blast They must have just done a shitty job filming/cutting it.
 

inm8num2

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At this point, does anyone even believe that Jax is looking for an exit strategy? There was absolutely no reason he had to take Pope's deal to increase the amount of dope they mule for Galindo. No reason at all. In fact, the only reason they were ostensibly muling the drugs in the first place was to avoid the RICO case. Now they're actually doing it as a business. That's going in the opposite direction of an exit strategy.

I meant exit strategy from working with the cartel and Pope, and moving into the companion business.
 
I'm still confused as to whether or not that was supposed to be a twist or not, because it was pretty obvious. Reminds me of the "twist" last season on Dexter.
 

inm8num2

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I'm still confused as to whether or not that was supposed to be a twist or not, because it was pretty obvious. Reminds me of the "twist" last season on Dexter.

They made it obvious in the first and second episodes. While Clay's involvement wasn't directly confirmed until episode 6, each episode was directed to suggest it (i.e. showing Clay looking at the nomads when Jax was talking about the break-ins last week).
 

Cyrillus

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Finally catching up on my DVR on my days off, just watched "Orca Shrugged"...HOLY SHIT Walton Goggins! That performance was amazing! Also good to see Tig getting back to his regular self.
 
Look we all know that the club is not 'getting out' until the show ends, more or less. But at least show him trying to get out. Getting into business with Nero was a step in that direction, but then getting involved with Pope is like 30 steps in the other direction.

How? What is he supposed to do with Pope? The decision was basically be his bitch and hand him 50k every mule for nothing, or haul just a little more and actually get money out of it. It's not like he is going out of his way to work with him, he is just dealing with the hand he has been dealt while trying to think ahead. Ever since he was forced to keep Clay alive and stay in the gun and drug running it's pretty much been showing that it's not supposed to be easy for Jax to just jump in as Pres and do what he wants. With Pope it's just more of that and he's just making the best of it.
 
How? What is he supposed to do with Pope? The decision was basically be his bitch and hand him 50k every mule for nothing, or haul just a little more and actually get money out of it. It's not like he is going out of his way to work with him, he is just dealing with the hand he has been dealt while trying to think ahead. Ever since he was forced to keep Clay alive and stay in the gun and drug running it's pretty much been showing that it's not supposed to be easy for Jax to just jump in as Pres and do what he wants. With Pope it's just more of that and he's just making the best of it.

Getting into bed with Pope is just a bad idea all around. Surely he should be able to see that after Pope murdered Tig's girl and Opie. Jax was given an opportunity to refuse to mule for Pope and he should have taken it. What do you think will happen when something (inevitably) goes wrong with the shipments and Pope is involved? They're supposed to be trying to get out of the drug business, not get sucked deeper in.
 
Getting into bed with Pope is just a bad idea all around. Surely he should be able to see that after Pope murdered Tig's girl and Opie. Jax was given an opportunity to refuse to mule for Pope and he should have taken it. What do you think will happen when something (inevitably) goes wrong with the shipments and Pope is involved? They're supposed to be trying to get out of the drug business, not get sucked deeper in.

They would have a problem with Pope if something went wrong with a shipment regardless. They were in bed with Pope no matter what because they had to give him the money. If something happened to a shipment they wouldn't have the money to give to him and there would be a problem still. Also they're not in any deeper than they were before, now they just get more money instead of handing over half the money they were getting for the same job.

You are looking at this as if Jax had a choice. The drugs are getting run no matter what, but he was in an even worse spot to get them out as now Pope wanted money that they wouldn't have if not for the drugs. So instead of giving money they do the same job and earn a little more while Jax still looks for a way out of the same situation they're in whether they're giving or recieving money from Pope. The situation hasn't changed, they're now just earning more. Except they could have potential pull with Pope down the road with them in control of the drugs and now involved with Galindo/CIA whatever all that is.
 
We all know by all that by the end of the season, the main villain will die.

Also, I missed last weeks episode..is there anywhere I can go to watch it?!
 

inm8num2

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We all know by all that by the end of the season, the main villain will die.

Also, I missed last weeks episode..is there anywhere I can go to watch it?!

Thing is, who's the main villain? I know it's meant to be Pope, but despite what he did to Tig's daughter and Opie I can't help but feel the Sons would do similar things if the situation were reversed.

I wouldn't mind seeing Pope be around for a couple seasons. They could make for some interesting relationships and conflicts.

I still view Clay as the main villain. I think he's the guy that's internally causing the most problems, as well as leading to things like the Sheriff's wife being killed.
 

Avinexus

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Thing is, who's the main villain? I know it's meant to be Pope, but despite what he did to Tig's daughter and Opie I can't help but feel the Sons would do similar things if the situation were reversed.

I wouldn't mind seeing Pope be around for a couple seasons. They could make for some interesting relationships and conflicts.

I still view Clay as the main villain. I think he's the guy that's internally causing the most problems, as well as leading to things like the Sheriff's wife being killed.

Same here. I think most people feel he is the "main villain". Although, I'm hoping he is gone this season mainly because I think he is an awful actor.
 

BIGWORM

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Yeah seriously crossed a line killing an innocent just because she was a witness. Club can go ahead and burn at this point. Rooting against them.

Tig has been off the deep-end by witnessing his daughter being burned alive by Pope. I was shocked to see him so effortlessly pull the trigger on that CO's wife, but I almost saw it coming at the same time.

It's pretty scary to think how worthless and classy Pope can be. I really don't think at this point Jax has an extra strategy if he just agreed to mule twice as much to let Pope in on SAMCRO's runs.
 

Gr1mLock

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Yeah i don't think anyone died but i think the blood was from gemma.

That whole scene made no sense to me. Is she now a secret pillhead? Was she just tired? Im pretty sure she wouldnt try to play chicken with the boys in the car.
 
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