TKOFromTokyo
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I’ve been following it on AVSforum. This tv has been and still is the most talked about. They convinced me.
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Sony’s 2021 TV lineup runs Google TV and fully embraces HDMI 2.1
I’ve been following it on AVSforum. This tv has been and still is the most talked about. They convinced me.
StateofMajora
Banned
I saw Robert from value electronics interview and I can’t believe I’m considering cashing in on my A8h warranty on BF for the a90j. But that thing just sounds incredible.
But seriously, not gonna do that but damn it’s tempting. I’ll hold out for that master series QD oled with heatsink I guess
You cats with money and have been waiting to upgrade have the perfect option!
But seriously, not gonna do that but damn it’s tempting. I’ll hold out for that master series QD oled with heatsink I guess
You cats with money and have been waiting to upgrade have the perfect option!
dolabla
Member
Launch prices showing up now on the Sony website for X90J 55" and 65". https://www.sony.com/electronics/televisions/x90j-series#product_details_default
55": $1499
65": $1799
55": $1499
65": $1799
StateofMajora
Banned
That's kind of expensive. Better have more zones than 950g if that's the case.
TKOFromTokyo
Member
I agree. At those prices I’d rather consider the LG CX as they move to this year’s models or a G1 near BF.
I will say that I’m enjoying the A90J. The picture is great. I really enjoy seeing texture details on clothing and sets. I even appreciate the texture differences on clothing like horribly animated shows like Mickey Mouse Clubhouse when the kids are watching.
I wish broadcast tv was crisper, but at least the motion is good. The thing that probably irritates me the most on broadcast tv is the slight bit of artifacts that I see around the outlines of people/objects. Maybe I need to update settings. I’m just using the default cinema settings right now.
I do notice slight stuttering on pan shots here and there. I haven’t had a chance to game on it yet, I’ve been holding our newborn in the evenings to give my wife a little break.
IntentionalPun
Ask me about my wife's perfect butthole
I'm interested but shit I'm reading about the 900H still worries me.
Random software jankyness for instance w/ HDR that goes unpatched (along with the more known issues w/ 120hz blurriness and people still waiting on other HDMI 2.1 features to be patched.)
I feel like everything surrounding HDMI 2.1 is a crapshoot.
DeepEnigma
Gold Member
I've never experienced random software jank. It has been smooth as butter and super fast/responsive.
2.1 has been a nightmare, yes. While it hasn't impacted me yet, the standard needs to get their shit together. Especially the odd EDID shit that impacts all brands.
TKOFromTokyo
Member
I’ll be happy playing 4K 60 HDR. Hopefully I’ll be ready for a new set by the time HDMI 2.1 is settled. I’d keep the A90J primarily for watching and a new tv for gaming. I did buy the Best Buy warranty for burn in protection, so I plan on playing without worrying about it and replacing the tv, if necessary, by a new model that has any kinks ironed out.
IntentionalPun
Ask me about my wife's perfect butthole
Good to hear; I'm waiting for the 75"+ 2021 models from all brands to show up.. then pulling the trigger.
Or spend another year waiting for the next set of TVs lol
DeepEnigma
Gold Member
I will tell you this, you won't be disappointed. These are some damned good TVs.
TKOFromTokyo
Member
Apparenrly, the 900H fine print always said it was coming in the spring of 2021. That’s what I was told on AVSforum.
HeisenbergFX4
Gold Member
Maybe since I am older my eyes arent as great as they used to be but I love my 900H and game often in 4k 120fps with HDR and I think its looks great.
DeepEnigma
Gold Member
That's a good price for a fantastic set.
Bogroll
Likes moldy games
Im very tempted.
DeepEnigma
Gold Member
StateofMajora
Banned
Yeah for sure man, An lg CX vs. a (probably) 60 zone lcd from Sony for the same price? No brainer lol. Hell the A8h is teetering around that price as well, saw it for 1500 as well. Sony needs mini led for their lcd line desperately, and I would like to get a 49" lcd to replace my 49" x900e with 32 zones and 32ms lag (2 frames basically) in the game room lol. But these refreshes aren't cutting it.
Glad to hear you like it, not sure what to make of the artifacts, is it like ghosting/breakup or more like halo ringing? If it's 720p cable, that doesn't help but I wonder. What motion settings are you using? I've honestly never updated my A8h once thus far, and don't plan on it unless I hear of a specific fix/upgrade ; you never know, updates can also make things worse.
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StateofMajora
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Yeah, 900h was a bad misfire. It's a significant step back compared to the 2017 x900e even, in terms of picture processing.
DeepEnigma
Gold Member
How so?
StateofMajora
Banned
It cut corners to get a 2.1 chipset ; you lose smooth gradation option and from what i've seen in addtion to it just being brighter with no more zones - which results in more blooming - the picture algorithms in general don't do as good a job. Upscaling as well.
X950h still retained the x1 ultimate chipset with all the picture processing options but with no 2.1.
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StateofMajora
Banned
I'm not saying the x900h is useless ; if you can get a very good price, and in absence of a real successor to sony's 2017 lcd line, you've got a Ps5/SX ready TV *after updates and despite 120hz blur. For people that have to buy now, and can't afford oled, it may make sense.
It's just that it's disappointing that Sony has both dragged their feet in upgrading their lcd line, halted progress and in some areas even regressed.
It's just that it's disappointing that Sony has both dragged their feet in upgrading their lcd line, halted progress and in some areas even regressed.
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StateofMajora
Banned
Yep, first big drop around late may, early june typically. A8h launched at 2300 but in June it was 1900 when I bought it. Wait for that if you can't wait all the way to BF/Fall.
DeepEnigma
Gold Member
It was a major upgrade to me over my 2017 Sony. Not only the black levels, but colors and IQ. The scaling seems the same as well for 1080p content.
They did last year around late Summer to September, so if that trend continues, there is a chance.
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Reizo Ryuu
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Huh?
My PC is connected to a 2.1 port and my xsx is connected to the other "eARC" port, no issues here.
StateofMajora
Banned
What 2017 Sony?
A same Zone count TV with a lower end chip is not a major upgrade. Factually downgrade. Hell you can even check rtings page and the native contrast is worse than 900e.
DeepEnigma
Gold Member
I had an IPS, thus the major upgrade for me. Especially for $850 and some change. IQ is on par, scaling is on par, colors and blacks were a major upgrade due to VA vs IPS. Both 120hz panels.
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StateofMajora
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Oh well then yes, that is a major upgrade my friend. Sony's IPS are not good lol.
DeepEnigma
Gold Member
Picture quality was great and I have very little ghosting compared to some of the nightmarish ones I seen. Also did the warm up and rub trick day 0 to mitigate most of it. But yes, blacks were not that desirable, but not horrible compared to a lot of other IPS panels I seen. Motion was great as well.
Only bought it at the time because it was a banger deal. Was mainly monitor gaming for all platforms back then. The X900H is night and day, however.
Still leaning towards to A90J or maybe just skip until 2022 since I am plenty content at the moment.
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Ramz87
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I went for it, ordered the other day! Mine’s coming on Wednesday so will report back my findings
Dr. Kitty Muffins
Member
I always liked how easy it is to cast content from my phone to my Sony TV. Lots of video from all over the web can be cast with a simple press.
DeepEnigma
Gold Member
S0ULZB0URNE
Member
A Chinese review compares this to the XH90/900H with the XH90 having lower input lag and better contrast.
Also shares the same 32 zones as well.
StateofMajora
Banned
If you can afford it, and care enough I say go for it round Black Friday. If you are content, you probably shouldn’t upgrade though. Nothing better than feeling content with what you got lol. At least the 900h has really good input lag.
I think I will wait to upgrade the A8H until at least 2023, can do it at any time though with BB warranty.
DeepEnigma
Gold Member
Got the same warranty. You just can't beat it.
S0ULZB0URNE
Member
I usually buy a new set every 2 to 3 years.
The X90J releases a year after the 900H and isn't as good.
I am hoping it's successor the X90i(?) uses more than 32 zones and is significantly brighter or maybe I will consider this years X950J or next years X950i(?)
DeepEnigma
Gold Member
Will probably be K since they skipped the I for J.
StateofMajora
Banned
32 zones again...
And possibly worse contrast than 900h? Got DANG Sony that is sad if true lol.
Edit : the possible worse contrast could be because of a significant brightness increase. Be interesting to see the reviews on x90J.
And possibly worse contrast than 900h? Got DANG Sony that is sad if true lol.
Edit : the possible worse contrast could be because of a significant brightness increase. Be interesting to see the reviews on x90J.
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S0ULZB0URNE
Member
IKR32 zones again...
And possibly worse contrast than 900h? Got DANG Sony that is sad if true lol.
They are stopping production on the 900H so to those who want it or were waiting on the(downgraded) X90J... you better hurry up and get one before they are gone.
HeisenbergFX4
Gold Member
So many wrong statements in this thread on the 900H from people that obviously has never seen its picture calibrated in a proper setting
Jigga117
Member
Yeah I do this for HBO Max on my Oleds and it still keeps Dolby Vision/Atmos
TKOFromTokyo
Member
Maybe I’m sensitive, but the outlines of anything are not crisp and text seems jaggy. I assume it’s artifacts. It’s a whole lot better than other 4K TVs I’ve seen.
StateofMajora
Banned
I think it's probably just the cable signal, hell I remember even seeing artifacts on my parents 2008 samsung lcd when HD was fresh lol. Unless you're seeing the same thing on blu rays? Which would seem really strange honestly.
S0ULZB0URNE
Member
?So many wrong statements in this thread on the 900H from people that obviously has never seen its picture calibrated in a proper setting
It looks great after tweaking to me.
Anyway another comparison...
TKOFromTokyo
Member
I think it’s the cable signal. I used to watch a 37 inch TV at a distance of 12 feet, so I wouldn’t be able to see that stuff. my cable box is also from 2014. Maybe I need a new one.
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StateofMajora
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Maybe, depends on how accurate that info is but i'm not necessarily doubting it. Trying to think why it'd be that way though.
It's weird because the X90J shares the same processor as the A90J, according to Sony (which may explain the extra cost compared to 55 inch 950g/h) which is the main area 900h suffered compared to older sets. It *really* shouldn't be worse lol. I saw your brightness slide as well... which doesn't really explain the blooming pic you posted so, not sure. Perhaps the local dimming settings are different?
It'll be interesting to see when more people get their hands on it.
The 32 zones bit I definitely believe lol.
Housh
Member
I calibrated using HDTV Test settings from Vincent. I like my TV, I just hope they do update it with Google TV and they improve on 120hz and add VRR. If they come through with the promises, the 900h was an absolute steal.So many wrong statements in this thread on the 900H from people that obviously has never seen its picture calibrated in a proper setting