considering many of us former PS2 owners dont have our discs anymore, I would disagree with you. It cant really be a bust having the option to buy a game again you played 15 years ago, as long as the prices are resonable.
Sony confirms PS2 emulation coming to PS4
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considering many of us former PS2 owners dont have our discs anymore, I would disagree with you. It cant really be a bust having the option to buy a game again you played 15 years ago, as long as the prices are resonable.
LiquidSolid
Member
It was the sound chip but in later revisions they removed it and emulated PS1 games instead.
Similar != same. The Xenon (360 CPU) is basically three Cell PPEs, the Cell has one PPE and 7 operational SPEs. It's the SPEs that the Jaguar has no chance of emulating.
Anyway, I'm dreading the bitching thread once Sony announces they're not going to support physical. People say "physical support or bust" now but that didn't stop people buying a shitload of PS1 Classics on PS3/PSP/Vita.
FinalStageBoss
Banned
lol@ disc based emulation. Ya'll need to come back down to reality.
Hcoregamer00
The 'H' stands for hentai.
I still have my discs, but I would gladly rebuy if it meant that all future consoles can play it.
The discs still work on my BC PS3.
First thing that came to my mind!
I know its wishful thinking but it would be a megaton if we got the option to tinker with emulation settings like on PC
Tizoc
Member
Hope gave us FF7R and Shenmue 3 announcements, let people dive in for their desires~
Homemade burners cannot touch authentication sectors that original disc have. That is the most simplest way that consoles can detect if the disc is original or a copy. On Xbone, original disc has to be inside the drive if user wants to play the game [game itself is always downloaded from XBL and played off the hard drive].
WickedLaharl
Member
Handle it like MS is or fuck off.
Tbh tho i can only think of one PS2 game i never played but have and that's xenosaga 3. RIP my OG fully BC PS3 ;_;
Tbh tho i can only think of one PS2 game i never played but have and that's xenosaga 3. RIP my OG fully BC PS3 ;_;
ArchedThunder
Banned
Thanks to our old pal the Cell processor the PS4 emulating the PS3 is a physical impossibility, the PS4 would need a FAR stronger CPU.
LimitedTimeGamer
Member
hey guys, we can get the yakuza hd collection now 
On a serious note, ALLL THE RPGS. ALL OF THEM.
On a serious note, ALLL THE RPGS. ALL OF THEM.
Maybe we should stop hoping before they revive some more bullshit guys
Or kickstart a power stone 3 or something
Cthulhu_Steev
Member
No upscaling or AA then?
bigbaldwolf86
Banned
If that DF video is anything to go by the emulation looks like it should be fantastic
Hcoregamer00
The 'H' stands for hentai.
Not going to happen, stop raising the bar of expectations.
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))))))lightchris
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Source?
According to Wikipedia the PS2 has or had not only the SPU2, but also the PS1 CPU. They might have changed that later on, but initially it wasn't just the sound chip.
Never.
Ps2 still works.
Shrennin
Didn't get the memo regarding the 14th Amendment
That's one thing I hope Sony does do (trophy support) as well as Microsoft if they go through with original Xbox support themselves (given how they do it, Microsoft could add simple achievements to the original Xbox games). I'm glad both Microsoft and Sony are starting to realize that gamers don't want to lose access to their games. BC is becoming more and more important than ever in this digital age too.
DarkLordMalik
Member
I just realized something.....
These games have to be rated again like Dark Cloud 2 on PEGI. Verendus hinted that Shadow Hearts among some other classics will make its return on PS4. It all makes sense now :O
If Shadow Hearts gets released as PS2 classic on PS4 then Verendus redeemed. Same goes for the Xenosaga Trilogy.
Panajev2001a
GAF's Pleasant Genius
The CELL BE processor is quite a lot more complex than Xenon is, quite a lot faster too, but taming it to both assist the GPU and improve graphics and gameplay/physics/etc... was not easy. Hence the gulf between some of the Multiplatform games and first party games like Uncharted 2, Killzone 2, GoW III, etc... We are talking about 2x or more the theoretical floating point performance difference.
I hope so. Most of the PS2 games I want to replay will certainly never be re-released in any form due to licencing problems.
Panajev2001a
GAF's Pleasant Genius
You could try to offload most of the vector processing onto the GPU with GPU compute tasks, but splitting work like that would not be easy just for the sake of not keeping the CPU under-utilised. Still, you would need to allow the GPU to have enough juice to render the games too and yes if you just compare the processing power of the two systems it would seem workable, but having software tackle and use it for emulation this way would be veery hard on PS4 and you do already have the remoter of some of the most popular titles.
stan423321
Member
It was supposed to do I/O only in PS2 mode.
PS2 Slim dropped it, along with compatibility with a few PS1 games... and a few PS2 games whose devs didn't care too much and made the PS1 CPU do something else.
Black Pewter
Member
It does.
MulderYuffie
Member
Please physical PS2 games playable on PS4.
Spiritwalker
Member
I'd be royally pissed if this is how we get FFXII on current gen. HD IZJS or get the FUCK out.
Good news tho.
Good news tho.
Green Card
Member
If this is digital only my PS3 better last forever.
autoduelist
Member
Emulation essentially requires creating a virtual machine -- in this case, the ps3 with it's rather unique cell architecture -- and then, once you have that up and running, having it be able to run a game on top of that with flawless, or nearly flawless, precision. Depending on various factors, it generally requires a very significant power gap in order for one machine to emu another, and in the case of vastly differing architecture there can be other difficulties.
LordBaztion
Member
Having spent most of the sixth Gen on a gamecube, I'm really glad to read this, at least while it's disc based emulation.
biglittleps
Member
I hope they finally release digital PS2 versions of the following games (EU/US store):
- Haunting Ground (only available in Japan)
- Silent Hill 2
- Silent Hill 3
- Silent Hill 4: The Room (only available in Japan)
And I also hope for PS1 emulation
I really need this. Hope they add this time.
People arguing that there is no business case for supporting discs have a remarkable lack of imagination.
There is a business case for sure.
It would be a large PR win. It would shift consoles. It would not significantly impact PSN sales of games (see how well PS1 games sold on the PS3). It would get people streaming/recording/screenshotting PS2 games. It would potentially give Sony data with which to convince publishers that putting in the work to secure a digital release for certain popular titles would be worth it.
I am about 50:50 on whether they will support disc based backwards compatibility. If they do not support it, the explanation will be that the emulation solution is not a simple "One fits all" solution, requiring game specific configuration, and the the burden of testing a decent portion of the PS2 library is too much. It won't be because of a desire to avoid cannibalizing digital sales.
There is a business case for sure.
It would be a large PR win. It would shift consoles. It would not significantly impact PSN sales of games (see how well PS1 games sold on the PS3). It would get people streaming/recording/screenshotting PS2 games. It would potentially give Sony data with which to convince publishers that putting in the work to secure a digital release for certain popular titles would be worth it.
I am about 50:50 on whether they will support disc based backwards compatibility. If they do not support it, the explanation will be that the emulation solution is not a simple "One fits all" solution, requiring game specific configuration, and the the burden of testing a decent portion of the PS2 library is too much. It won't be because of a desire to avoid cannibalizing digital sales.
I hope this is similar to XB1s. PS2 has one of the best libraries and will be used extensively when I get mine. I gotta play The Warriors again.
I remember back at E3 when people were arguing about how BC wasn't that big of a deal. I'm glad they died out. BC should be a staple with each successive console.
I remember back at E3 when people were arguing about how BC wasn't that big of a deal. I'm glad they died out. BC should be a staple with each successive console.
KingdomHeartsFan
Member
When they announce disc based bc then Ill get excited.
aygomyownroad
Member
I'm over the moon for xbox one backwards compatibility. Works well and I've been given gears of war collection for playing remastered gesrs of war which is awesome as I need played 3 or judgement.
I hope this also utilises what Microsoft have done. Pop disc in and download the game to the console as it would be the best way to do it.
Backwards compatibility is always seen as niche. But it can't hurt having it if it is done properly.
I hope this also utilises what Microsoft have done. Pop disc in and download the game to the console as it would be the best way to do it.
Backwards compatibility is always seen as niche. But it can't hurt having it if it is done properly.
Muchi Muchi Pink
Member
I get Valkyrie Profile 2, right?
Sony first announced that PS4 don't read CD-ROMs, then later they announced that the drive is physically compatible but doesn't have function to play the contents.
This is straight out from my memory so someone correct me if I'm mistaken.
Wasn't it leaked some time ago that the composer is working on the remaster? That wouldn't be something for an emulated game so I think we're safe on that end.
Valkyrie Profile 1 isn't even on PSN, so I think square Enix forgot about it
I don't see that happening, since they want money from resales.
All PS3s support PS2 emulation, as you can buy some games from the PSN, but they never released non-fat support for discs.
Phreakuency
Banned
I really doubt it will support discs.
Will likely be a 'you need to rebuy the digital emulated version'. Especially if the rumoured trophy support is added.
Will probably be a small selection of games scattered out over time.
I'd love to be wrong though.
Will likely be a 'you need to rebuy the digital emulated version'. Especially if the rumoured trophy support is added.
Will probably be a small selection of games scattered out over time.
I'd love to be wrong though.
timmyp53
Member
Pretty much all it is. Like less than 5 % of owners .will ever use it.