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Sony FY: 7.8M PS5s, 338.9M games sold; posts record profit of $10.5Bn
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Marcus Aurelius
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Sony's Game & Network Services segment generated $3.15 billion in operating profit, also a record year. Digital and network services (PSN) helps offset the impact from the costly launch of PS5. Sony breaks the cyclical profit / loss cycle this gen.
FatKingBallman
Banned
Well, yeah, MS as a whole company has a much bigger profits, i'll give you that.... But, PlayStation's profits almost equaled Xbox's revenues this quarter -_-
PS4 selling 5.8m in it's 8th year is not too shabby either
Record operating income for Playstation division = $3.15bn(full FY2020)Revenues generated by Playstation division: $25b
Revenues generated by (Xbox, Surface, Windows) = $13b
Also: "Record operating income of $3.2Bn at the start of the generation (previous record - Nintendo $1.9Bn in FY ended March 31, 2007)" are you okay B Bodomism ?
Playstation is shattering records left and right , that won't set well with some people here
Operating income for Nintendo in the FY2020 without Q4(we're going to get next week) = $4.8bn
I don't get why are you laughing when Nintendo is making nearly 2 times more than Playstation division record profit lol.
We are going to have a full profit comparison thread after Nintendo financial report.
Hoping for you to be there as well.
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El Pistolero
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Nintendo games and consoles cost way, way, way less than either Sony's or MS.
Don't worry. Profits only matter when you are comparing Playstation to Xbox.
When you throw Nintendo in the mix, it's not as important
Ass of Can Whooping
Gold Member
Congratulations to my fellow shareholders!
RoyalLaFlame
Banned
Still surprised how the PS4 has managed to sell so much while the PS5 is already out.
Holy shit.
EDIT: Oh yeah, I forgot about not having enough PS5s now. BUt still, PS4 still selling a lot.
Holy shit.
EDIT: Oh yeah, I forgot about not having enough PS5s now. BUt still, PS4 still selling a lot.
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jhjfss
Member
15 b (gaming only) vs 25 bRevenues generated by Playstation division: $25b
Revenues generated by (Xbox, Surface, Windows) = $13b
Also: "Record operating income of $3.2Bn at the start of the generation (previous record - Nintendo $1.9Bn in FY ended March 31, 2007)" are you okay B Bodomism ?
Playstation is shattering records left and right , that won't set well with some people here
Marcus Aurelius
Banned
Hahaha, strong cope. This is a launch year for Sony and they still had a profit, never happened for a launch in PS's history.
Btw, how's Nintendo's Revenue? You know the thing that actually matters more than profit in business.
FranXico
Member
I'm going to sound like those who defend Microsoft no matter what anti-competitive practices they engage in but this is nowhere near a monopoly, nor will it become one any time soon. Sony is present in many markets, and is nothing resembling anything near a monopoly in any one of them...
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Sony Gaming Revenue - $26.3Bn
PlayStation (G&NS) - $25Bn
Mobile Gaming (Music) - $1.3Bn
jhjfss
Member
Who compares yearly profits for PS to xbox's quarterly revenues?
The only people who seem to doubt/forget that Sony is the biggest gaming company in the world are Playstation fans.Revenues generated by Playstation division: $25b
Revenues generated by (Xbox, Surface, Windows) = $13b
Also: "Record operating income of $3.2Bn at the start of the generation (previous record - Nintendo $1.9Bn in FY ended March 31, 2007)" are you okay B Bodomism ?
Playstation is shattering records left and right , that won't set well with some people here
Marcus Aurelius
Banned
Lol almost forgot they also have a mobile divisionSony Gaming Revenue - $26.3Bn
PlayStation (G&NS) - $25Bn
Mobile Gaming (Music) - $1.3Bn
jhjfss
Member
Why put mobile gaming under music division? Odd.Sony Gaming Revenue - $26.3Bn
PlayStation (G&NS) - $25Bn
Mobile Gaming (Music) - $1.3Bn
Well Tencent....
Ah, the downplaying of profit(the most important business metric) has already begun.Hahaha, strong cope. This is a launch year for Sony and they still had a profit, never happened for a launch in PS's history.
Btw, how's Nintendo's Revenue? You know the thing that actually matters more than profit in business.
Marcus Aurelius
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Not sure if that's the case, haven't seen their numbers for 2020. But I assume they're still the biggest
Great Hair
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Marcus Aurelius
Banned
Sony even turning a profit in a launch year with huge investments is incredible and never happened. Profit doesn't paint an accurate picture at all, if Sony didn't invest, their costs would be much lower and have a higher profit. Without investing for the future, you will not grow as a company. More revenue > more possibility/leverage to invest > higher chance of growing as a company.
And playstation's division alone is bigger than Nintendo, hiding behind profits won't change that fact.
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Panajev2001a
GAF's Pleasant Genius
Profits are a very important business metric, but in a gaming forum it might sour people when it comes also thanks to cutting costs and re selling ported content at high prices (look at all these profits and the 30+ Million Animal Crossings: New Horizons sales and the dry/low effort post launch support for it… but yes that helps keep the profit margins up).
Aniplex (Fate/Grand Order) is a subsidiary completely owned by Sony Music Entertainment Japan
Fate/Grand Order Surpasses $4 Billion After Becoming Japan’s Top Grossing Mobile Game of 2019
Bernd Lauert
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nowhat
Gold Member
It's because of the petition, duh.I wonder why 'Doomed and Over, Jim is killing them' Sony is so transparent and actually share all their impressive numbers in details
DenchDeckard
Moderated wildly
Sony absolutely KILLING IT! So good to see.
massivekettle
Member
Amazing set of numbers. Particularly impressed at the pace at which they're shipping out PS5 in light of Xbox's numbers. This will only get better when supply manages to catch up to demand.
Also very impressed by the PS Plus attach rate to PS5. 87% is much better than I expected, though I suspect that number will trend down as more casuals get their hands on the console.
I think this is Jim Ryan's time to shine. He was handed over a very well run Sony gaming division with a product that basically sells itself (PS4 console, the highly successful slate of first-party AAA(A) games). His only goal was not to screw up the PS5 launch (which he did well) and fend off an eventual Microsoft comeback under a better leadership (this remains to be seen given how nascent the gen is to date). So I'd say he's done OK so far on balance, but we'll only be able to assess his performance a few years down the line.
Also very impressed by the PS Plus attach rate to PS5. 87% is much better than I expected, though I suspect that number will trend down as more casuals get their hands on the console.
I think this is Jim Ryan's time to shine. He was handed over a very well run Sony gaming division with a product that basically sells itself (PS4 console, the highly successful slate of first-party AAA(A) games). His only goal was not to screw up the PS5 launch (which he did well) and fend off an eventual Microsoft comeback under a better leadership (this remains to be seen given how nascent the gen is to date). So I'd say he's done OK so far on balance, but we'll only be able to assess his performance a few years down the line.
30yearsofhurt
Member
That Jim Ryan guy is umm... he done bad right...?
H-I-M
Member
If you want to look at the markets individually, that user isn't completely wrong.
Xbox heavily relies on the US and UK markets (and a few in Latin America), but other than those, Sony sells a lot, lot more it's not even funny.
Obviously there's also Nintendo, but I think that user was talking about Sony/Xbox.
Q4 2020 - Gaming Revenue (in millions)
Sony $8,786
PlayStation $8,452
Mobile Gaming $334
Tencent $7,188
Smartphone $5,625
PC Client $1,563
What's the definition of gaming that you are using?
Clearly ZhugeEX is using something different
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Bernd Lauert
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Zhuge compared years while zedinen picked a quarter.
Ass of Can Whooping
Gold Member
Why is Sony not sharing sales for the biggest PS launch title bugsnax?
Are they scared?
Are they scared?
TBiddy
Member
What? Do you even know what the two numbers are? I'll give you a hint. They are nowhere near comparable.
Missed that. I would go for yearly numbers honestly but ehh.
30yearsofhurt
Member
This is the most important post in this whole thread.
Sony really should thank Nintendo for screwing them over on the SNES CD-ROM deal. lol
Bernd Lauert
Banned
I still wonder how they gonna do it. Do they expect Horizon to sell 20m copies?
TBiddy
Member
If it's cross gen, it's not unlikely.
ChuckeRearmed
Member
Yeah, with such profits we cannot expect big acquisitions in the near future. Even juggernaut which is Playstation, outselling Xbox One more than 2:1 and Series X (less than 2:1) for the year their revenues are 25 bln (Playstation) and 15 bln (Xbox), with 3 bln profit for Playstation. 3 bln profit for Playstation, year(!).
They will buy something for music and videos though
Very interesting to see the next year.
They will buy something for music and videos though
Very interesting to see the next year.
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