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Most of you probably noticed I am a Playstation guy becaude of my contributions on GAF threads. But if there is one thing I hate with a passion is companies prioritizing certain markets and Sony might be doing just that by screwing its european clients. First with the staggered release of the PS5 in Europe and now this.

How is it possible the hardware (console, controller, camera, headset, wireless charger, etc) costs exactly the same in US and Europe but games are more expensive? Why announce a feature like Playstation Plus Collection that's not going to be fully available in all your markets without proper warning? To piss off a big chunk of your users? Because you think you have that market locked and they will toe the line?

For starters, I'm not going to buy shit from Sony (hardware or software) until they match what they are offering in other regions with what they are offering in Europe. And if they insist on this crap for too long I may jump ship to other platforms. And this is coming from a guy that bought all the Playstations and is (or was) a happy Sony client for the past 25 years.

 

[GaviotaGrande]

80 EUR for Spider-Man Sony must be high.

 

[Intoxicate]

That will make day one purchases decrease. And excellent ate the price erosion. If you’ve paid full price for a PS4 game or XBO in the past, you already felt cheated for it the games don’t hold their “value” more than a week.

 

[dwish]

Yep... I already don't buy many new games at launch. This will make me buy even less

 

[Knitted Knight]

Shit's not right anyway it's spun. I get the business side of trying to front load capacity in NA to avoid shortages leading to people buying the competition (since MS presence in Europe proper is crap) but this pricing too....

 

[existensmaximum]

Yeah, one more reason to get the standard version of the PS5 so you can at least sell your games after a while, or buy them used...

 

[OnThePathToWisdom]

So this is how arrogant Sony rears its ugly head. I knew there 'd be a atleast some way he'd creep in. But its probably Sony testing the water to see what they can get away with before changing it and being perceived as heroes for doing so.

It's a common tactic to shock people with something ridiculous to then only change the price to something less ridiculous like 69,99 but still worse than the actual baseline price it used to be.

Is there a term for this practice?

 

[Bonfires Down]

The reason the consoles are priced the same is that it’s very important for Sony to get below those psychological barriers of entry. I won’t be buying any games at 80€ though .

Edit: Oh, other hardware was also priced higher. I can’t explain that.

 

[Perrott]

I can't believe how could they shot themselves in the foot like that.

They got the games, not only on launch day, but in 2021 as well: Ratchet & Clank, Horizon, Gran Turismo, Returnal, God of War. The best first year lineup in the history of PlayStation... but then they ruined it all by releasing their games also on PS4 and PC.

Back in june they said all of the "we believe in generations" stuff - that only makes the end result even more insulting.

 

[Hawking Radiation]

Jesus. Brazilians are already getting skull fucked with PS5 hardware pricing and now this and not a single bottle of baby oil for you Europeans.

I light a candle.

 

[Deleted member 775630]

80€... Now we know why they made the discless version 100€ cheaper

 

[jdforge]

So this is how arrogant Sony rears its ugly head. I knew there 'd be a atleast some way he'd creep in. But its probably Sony testing the water to see what they can get away with before changing it and being perceived as heroes for doing so.

It's a common tactic to shock people with something ridiculous to then only change the price to something less ridiculous like 69,99 but still worse than the actual baseline price it used to be.

Is there a term for this practice?

Yes, it’s called being a cunt.

 

[Pippelipeikko]

In Finland they are actually trying to sell the disc version for €599 and the discless for €549. The importer is known for being a greedy cunt and they stick 20% on because... fuck you that's why.

 

[xrnzaaas]

This is utter bullshit when you consider that 1$ is worth less than 1€ in Europe. I'm definitely not buying any games at launch for that price. Even now 60€ is a price I'm rarely willing to pay for a brand new game, it's gotta be something I'm really really looking forward to playing asap.

 

[Silent Viper]

Oh Game pass thank you Game pass for caring about us and our money.

 

[sinnergy]

Now it’s MS time to shine and keep first party titel at 60.

 

[Business]

 

[GreatnessRD]

If smoking dope was a Game company.

 

[Mattyp]

Will be interesting to see Australian conversion rates, at the moment our games are around $79 which equals about 50 euros or $60 US at launch. This would put them between $100-$130.

Thank god for gamepass.

 

[DavidGzz]

Oh Game pass thank you Game pass for caring about us and our money.

Yep, Game Pass will be even bigger next gen. PS5+Demon's Souls and that's about it until the next big exclusive. Meanwhile I'll spend most of my time on XSX and those sweet Game Pass games.

 

[mcjmetroid]

Microsoft were a lot more communicative with this stuff and people gave them shit for it. Especially when it came to generations. At least they were upfront about it
. Sony is doing the same thing about their console and being shady about it.

I thought that conference was very weak and reaked of self confidence.

It's gonna be a slow generation for the first year boys.

 

[Manstructiclops]

You queers have been licking Sony's ringpiece with furious vigour, so reap the benefit when they treat you like cattle

 

[Zoro7]

I mean who the fuck pays retail for video games? Even digital games I buy PSN codes online for 85% cost.
Im not going to cry about a 10 dollar/euro increase in price.

 

[marcincz]

80E for a single game? Sorry Sony, but no. One week after US and JP PS5 release and 10E higher price for a game. I am out. Maybe I'll buy PS5 in 2021.

 

[cyberheater]

Yeah. I’ll stick to PC.

 

[Agent_4Seven]

WTF is this BS? Are they fucking insane to charge 80 euro? Not to mention that regional pricing is absolutely terrible and they closed factories in some countries so they need to import games now and it'll be even more expensive than 80 euro. What in the actual fuck?

 

[Silent Viper]

Now it’s MS time to shine and keep first party titel at 60.

60? I will play them for 1$ under my subscription till 2023 lol

 

[Mattyp]

 

[RoadHazard]

They're using their strongest market to recoup their losses from selling the PS5 (DE in particular) below cost. They probably don't dare doing the same in the US, because they're not as strong VS MS there.

 

[TheAssist]

Taxes arent applied to US prices no?
So its 70 dollars before taxes

 

[turtlepowa]

And that`s why DE is the most expensive console if you are not digital only anyways. I see tons of people be like "Omg, 100 bucks? Give give give" and in the end they pay hundreds and hundreds more than people that just resell and trade their games.

 

[Panajev2001a]

80 EUR for Spider-Man Sony must be high.

That is the price of the special edition which includes a remaster of the previous game too.

 

[Orta]

€80 for a game is outrageous. Simple as that. Piracy would be utterly rampant on the next gen consoles if it were as simple to do so as on a pc.

 

[Rac3r]

So this is how arrogant Sony rears its ugly head. I knew there 'd be a atleast some way he'd creep in. But its probably Sony testing the water to see what they can get away with before changing it and being perceived as heroes for doing so.

It's a common tactic to shock people with something ridiculous to then only change the price to something less ridiculous like 69,99 but still worse than the actual baseline price it used to be.

Is there a term for this practice?

In social psychology it's known as the "Door-in-the-face technique"; although, I don't know if it applies here.

 

[Panajev2001a]

And that`s why DE is the most expensive console if you are not digital only anyways. I see tons of people be like "Omg, 100 bucks? Give give give" and in the end they pay hundreds and hundreds more than people that just resell and trade their games.

Not only that UHD Blu-Ray shits over Netflix or other streaming solutions in terms of quality... heck sometimes 1080p Blu-Ray have better detail...

 

[ZywyPL]

80€ for SP-only games, GTFO Sony. That 399 doesn't look attractive at all now.

 

[GaviotaGrande]

That is the price of the special edition which includes a remaster of the previous game too.

I know. And the "remastered" of the original is not even on a disc. It's a digital download.

 

[Panajev2001a]

So this is how arrogant Sony rears its ugly head. I knew there 'd be a atleast some way he'd creep in. But its probably Sony testing the water to see what they can get away with before changing it and being perceived as heroes for doing so.

It's a common tactic to shock people with something ridiculous to then only change the price to something less ridiculous like 69,99 but still worse than the actual baseline price it used to be.

Is there a term for this practice?

Arrogant Sony is Sony existing, it is like Elvis face or Jesus found in everything somehow .

 

[danielJackson]

Most of you probably noticed I am a Playstation guy becaude of my contributions on GAF threads. But if there is one thing I hate with a passion is companies prioritizing certain markets and Sony might be doing just that by screwing its european clients. First with the staggered release of the PS5 in Europe and now this.

How is it possible the hardware (console, controller, camera, headset, wireless charger, etc) costs exactly the same in US and Europe but games are more expensive? Why announce a feature like Playstation Plus Collection that's not going to be fully available in all your markets without proper warning? To piss off a big chunk of your users? Because you think you have that market locked and they will toe the line?

For starters, I'm not going to buy shit from Sony (hardware or software) until they match what they are offering in other regions with what they are offering in Europe. And if they insist on this crap for too long I may jump ship to other platforms. And this is coming from a guy that bought all the Playstations and is (or was) a happy Sony client for the past 25 years.

Harware doesnt cost the same even between European countries.

US:
standard 499$
DE 399$

Finland:
standard 529€ = 623$
DE 429€ = 505$

It have always been that US prices are much lower, while our price is $ = € + 10-40% extra.

even when counting our included 22% VAT it sucks.

 

[The Cockatrice]

Fuck anyone supporting this shit and let me tell you there are a lot of people especially on gaf. Keep preordering guys because that way Sony will surely see how dumb they are.

 

[Lupin3]

€80?

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

Fuck off!

Tonight I'll cuddle even more with my PC, and pour ice cream over it while I whisper naughty words into its fans.

 

[veterangamerUK]

Andrew White and Shawn Layden not being there anymore shows.

 

[Panajev2001a]

I know. And the "remastered" of the original is not even on a disc. It's a digital download.

and? Sure, you cannot resell it, but it does not make it free or worthless mate.

 

[veterangamerUK]

Most of you probably noticed I am a Playstation guy becaude of my contributions on GAF threads. But if there is one thing I hate with a passion is companies prioritizing certain markets and Sony might be doing just that by screwing its european clients. First with the staggered release of the PS5 in Europe and now this.

How is it possible the hardware (console, controller, camera, headset, wireless charger, etc) costs exactly the same in US and Europe but games are more expensive? Why announce a feature like Playstation Plus Collection that's not going to be fully available in all your markets without proper warning? To piss off a big chunk of your users? Because you think you have that market locked and they will toe the line?

For starters, I'm not going to buy shit from Sony (hardware or software) until they match what they are offering in other regions with what they are offering in Europe. And if they insist on this crap for too long I may jump ship to other platforms. And this is coming from a guy that bought all the Playstations and is (or was) a happy Sony client for the past 25 years.

Which regions isn't the PS Plus Collection going to be in?

 

[mickaus]

so Audusd =0.73
Demons souls US= 70
So should be Aud 95.
But no, 125. Just because.
Between this and NVIDIA 30xx pricing, australia is being punished for no reason.

 

[shaddam]

I have an US account, I will buy games fromt here like on ps3 and ps4, then play on my eu acc

 

[kuncol02]

80 EUR for Spider-Man Sony must be high.

Spiderman is nothing. That's two games, well 1.5 games. Sackboy for 70EUR is joke. That game looks like PS3 title.

 

[Fitzchiv]

Most of you probably noticed I am a Playstation guy becaude of my contributions on GAF threads. But if there is one thing I hate with a passion is companies prioritizing certain markets and Sony might be doing just that by screwing its european clients. First with the staggered release of the PS5 in Europe and now this.

How is it possible the hardware (console, controller, camera, headset, wireless charger, etc) costs exactly the same in US and Europe but games are more expensive? Why announce a feature like Playstation Plus Collection that's not going to be fully available in all your markets without proper warning? To piss off a big chunk of your users? Because you think you have that market locked and they will toe the line?

For starters, I'm not going to buy shit from Sony (hardware or software) until they match what they are offering in other regions with what they are offering in Europe. And if they insist on this crap for too long I may jump ship to other platforms. And this is coming from a guy that bought all the Playstations and is (or was) a happy Sony client for the past 25 years.

There's some detail stuff around taxing and cost to get approval and rating etc, but it's not radically different to, say, the US. They're taking the piss.

Let's face it though the whole concept of these 'cheaper' digital consoles is to make it impossible to get games at a lower premium. They're getting that money back one way or another. The price difference between the discless and standard versions is worth what, four or five decent AAA game purchase premiums when buying full whack digitally or through a store.

 

[GaviotaGrande]

and? Sure, you cannot resell it, but it does not make it free or worthless mate.

... and 80 EUR is the new price for first-party Sony games. Including glorified DLC with digital remaster slapped on top of it, PS3 game remaster and Rocket League copy-cat.

Meanwhile people shit on Epic Store or Activision but earlier this month I got one of the best (if not THE best) remasters for 35 EUR. I'm talking about THPS 1+2, of course.

 

[Panajev2001a]

... and 80 EUR is the new price for first-party Sony games.

This is warrior BS mate. Throwing stuff at a wall and seeing if it sticks.

Lost Legacy was not a cheap add-on and Miles Morales is that and more. You can buy Miles Morales stand-alone or in a bundle, but you trying to make the talking point of all games are $80 makes it all look like very very disingenuous.
Try harder.