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And people actively want physical media to die out...

 

[Roberts]

Woke up, read the news: one part of my brain finds it all hilarious, considering the hypocrisy and assholery of the die-hard Sony bros here, but the other feels bad for those of you who simply can not afford games that expensive. Would it better to have a slightly more expensive PS5, but the same old price for games?

 

[Sebastian Suola]

In Finland they are actually trying to sell the disc version for €599 and the discless for €549. The importer is known for being a greedy cunt and they stick 20% on because... fuck you that's why.

Source? If true, everyone should just order from EU Amazon.

 

[PropellerEar]

In Finland they are actually trying to sell the disc version for €599 and the discless for €549. The importer is known for being a greedy cunt and they stick 20% on because... fuck you that's why.

Disc version is 529€ in Verkkokauppa.
Only seen 499€ on Amazon.de and they wouldn't send it to my address when doing the pre-order, and now its out of stock.

80€ for game is too much.
(80€ is 94$)

 

[Agent_4Seven]

I wanted to buy PS5 this year since 3080 is nowhere near good enough to upgrade from 1080Ti, but now I need to thank both Jensen and Sony for saving me a lot of money this year. 80 Euro is absolutely insane and they're fuckin' stupid if they think that people will just accept this BS.

PS5 just turned from day one purchase to "maybe sometime in 5 years from now" when used games will be cheap and affordable enough. I honestly don't why anyone would think that it is okay to charge that fucking much for video games with current economic situation, global pandemic and hell, even without all this.

 

[Roufianos]

£70 is fucking disgusting. Games were £40 at the start of last gen. Surely that's the recommended price and retailers will sell them for £50?

 

[M1chl]

Taxes arent applied to US prices no?
So its 70 dollars before taxes

Let's say I am from Czech republic, which have 21% VAT, which would make it 84.5USD after the tax. However 80 EUR is 94USD, so this is not accurate.

 

[Sebastian Suola]

Disc version is 529€ in Verkkokauppa.
Only seen 499€ on Amazon.de and they wouldn't send it to my address when doing the pre-order, and now its out of stock.

80€ for game is too much.
(80€ is 94$)

529 sounds more like the typical ”Finnish tax”. Too bad if Amazon won’t ship to Finland. I’ve bought many consoles from them.

80€ for games is bullshit though. Even assuming the US price has zero sales taxes, after doing the currency conversion AND adding sales tax, the Euro prices should closer to 70 than 80. All I can say is good luck to everyone buying the digital PS5...

 

[M1chl]

Which regions isn't the PS Plus Collection going to be in?

I guess where the PS Now is, so no collection for me. Fucking bullshit.

 

[The Bloody-Nine]

No discs, boxes or artwork to produce. 70 euro, please. Absolutely laughable.

 

[cormack12]

I think tiered pricing is a good move. There's no way something that's triple AAA (Witcher, Cyberpunk, RDR2) should be launched at the same RRP as other lesser games.

 

[whyman]

This is bullshit and I will buy less games because of it. (Spend less money in total)

 

[THE DUCK]

$90 games here means I will never buy a day one game again. Its just silly.
So instead sony will get $40 from me a few months later. They have priced themselves out of $50. (Times 10-15 games for this generation)

Also this type of pricing sends some people to pc gaming to pirate.

 

[M1chl]

Thanks Sony.

 

[Mithos]

Swedish retailers are beginning to update the prices for PS5.

PS5 5990 SEK (~us$679)
PS5 DE 4990 SEK (~us$565)

 

[Sebastian Suola]

Thanks Sony.

This is how it’s always been though. First make the USD -> EUR (or your currency) conversion, then add the tax. $500 will become roughly $600.

 

[R3axi0n]

Holy shit. I was actually going to just pre-order a PS5 coming over from the xbox... seeing this has made me do a U-turn. Wow.

 

[M1chl]

This is how it’s always been though. First make the USD -> EUR (or your currency) conversion, then add the tax. $500 will become roughly $600.

Well X1X cost me 12 100CZK, which also had 499USD price tag...

 

[YeulEmeralda]

The price to pay living in a rich country is that corporations smell the €.

 

[Infested Goblin]

I hope games will sell like shit with this ridiculous prices

 

[PropellerEar]

529 sounds more like the typical ”Finnish tax”. Too bad if Amazon won’t ship to Finland. I’ve bought many consoles from them.

80€ for games is bullshit though. Even assuming the US price has zero sales taxes, after doing the currency conversion AND adding sales tax, the Euro prices should closer to 70 than 80. All I can say is good luck to everyone buying the digital PS5...

I think they do ship to Finland I bought PS4, PS4 Pro from them, seemed more like "special" limitation set on the first pre-order batch.

 

[AV]

Psst - buy the disc version. Buy game, finish game, sell game.

The more you buy digital the more they're going to fuck you with prices without giving you the option.

 

[Kayoba]

80€ for a game?!

 

[KiNeMz]

Yep

And the Consoles being $599 and $749

 

[notseqi]

10€ more at a favourable exchange rate to the dollar, you must be joking. Why not 94$ then?
Because they can?

That's full no for PS5 DE and probably no for the normal PS5.
Not with me they can't.

 

[Sebastian Suola]

Well X1X cost me 12 100CZK, which also had 499USD price tag...

That’s really cheap!

In Finland it’s 530€ for PS5, 510€ for Xbox Series X.

 

[GymWolf]

80 euros for a crossgen spinoff is pretty ridicolous yeah.

 

[M1chl]

That’s really cheap!

In Finland it’s 530€ for PS5, 510€ for Xbox Series X.

It was X1X, not sure about XSX, will see. Prices are not up.

Well see that shit is still more expensive even with same price tag.

 

[Arun1910]

These Exclusives better be good at that price, ridiculous.

 

[Exede]

Taxes arent applied to US prices no?
So its 70 dollars before taxes

So lets include taxes:
77$ US VS 94$ EU

 

[TimFL]

Miles game for 59,99€ HAHAHAHA
A Lost Legacy sized game. Wow.

 

[notseqi]

These Exclusives better be good at that price, ridiculous.

If they are they will still have a ton of DLC/mtx which leaves an even worse aftertaste for the whole shitshow.

So lets include taxes:
77$ US VS 94$ EU

EU is tax included, ranging from 16-22% I believe.

 

[Fulcizombie]

Whatever. XSX and gamepass here I come....

 

[Arun1910]

I just realised $50 is about £38 as a conversion yet the games will be £60.

Hopefully no one uses the RRP. Games at the moment have an RRP of about £55 I think but I never see games at this price in stores.

 

[GaviotaGrande]

This is warrior BS mate. Throwing stuff at a wall and seeing if it sticks.

Lost Legacy was not a cheap add-on and Miles Morales is that and more. You can buy Miles Morales stand-alone or in a bundle, but you trying to make the talking point of all games are $80 makes it all look like very very disingenuous.
Try harder.

80 EURO. Not 80 DOLLAR.

 

[chonga]

Thanks Sony.

For a $9 discount, yes, you should be thanking them.

You need to add tax, or rather remove tax from your local price and then convert.

$499 is $603 with 21% tax of Czech added on.

 

[Panajev2001a]

80 EURO. Not 80 DOLLAR.

Bolder please . Some games are, some 69€, but yes prices rising is not great in and of itself despite this being overdue for single player AAAA experiences without MTX.

 

[M1chl]

For a $9 discount, yes, you should be thanking them.

You need to add tax, or rather remove tax from your local price and then convert.

$499 is $603 with 21% tax of Czech added on.

Oh shit, did not calculate that, you are right. I was just coming of how much X1X cost(ed) me before, it was way cheaper for the price tag.

 

[notseqi]

Bolder please . Some games are, some 69€, but yes prices rising is not great in and of itself despite this being overdue for single player AAAA experiences without MTX.

Why are we in any case paying more for games than the dollarydoo-countries? Probs fine for much of Western Europe but countries with low salaries?

 

[GaviotaGrande]

Bolder please . Some games are, some 69€, but yes prices rising is not great in and of itself despite this being overdue for single player AAAA experiences without MTX.

"Some games are 70EUR." It's literally one. A game about a sackboiii. Now you're being disingenuous.

The standard price for all upcoming full-length Sony first party titles will be 80 EUR in the Euroland.

Case closed.

 

[zombrex]

Pricing the games so absurdly high is clearly a strategy to make up for losses on the console and make the perceived cost of the console lower. Those Australian prices are a total disgrace.

 

[pawel86ck]

I wanted to buy PS5 this year since 3080 is nowhere near good enough to upgrade from 1080Ti, but now I need to thank both Jensen and Sony for saving me a lot of money this year. 80 Euro is absolutely insane and they're fuckin' stupid if they think that people will just accept this BS.

PS5 just turned from day one purchase to "maybe sometime in 5 years from now" when used games will be cheap and affordable enough. I honestly don't why anyone would think that it is okay to charge that fucking much for video games with current economic situation, global pandemic and hell, even without all this.

Nowhere near good upgrade? Around 90% more performance in raster games (sometimes it's over 2x for example in RDR2), 10x performance boost RT performance of games is small upgrade to you? There's also no DLSS, VRS, mesh shaders, HW decompression.

For comparison 3080 performance in Control is 52fps with 4K DLSS quality and 100fps with 4K DLSS performance. You would have to run this game at 4K on 1080ti just to get comparable picture quality but 1080ti can only render 7fps at these settings. The difference between Pascal and Turing / Ampere is massive already in certain new games and there will be more games like that in the near future. In fact the performance gap will only widen when games will use mesh shaders, VRS, HW decompression on top of RT and DLSS.

 

[Eliciel]

How can you expect a Person to not feel really robbed to pay €80 = $94 when NA simply pays $69...
We are globalized. What do you think happens if I would ask my customer to pay 36% more money for a DIGITAL product?
Working in Sales I can assure you that you will get a very bad reputation, especially, if the competition starts acting differently, let alone that a good portion of your A-B-C analysis will end up changing...let's see how Europe looks in 1-3 years from now in Sales Location and let's see how we end up looking back about the point where this started. Lastly, customers will completely change DAY 1 purchasing behaviour. Flash Sales will become much more expected and default to start playing.

Don't give me that: I will still buy the exclusive at €79,99. That's good for you, but I am talking about trends and future devleopments, not you as a person with all the individual freedom you want.

 

[Redlancet]

I can't believe how could they shot themselves in the foot like that.

They got the games, not only on launch day, but in 2021 as well: Ratchet & Clank, Horizon, Gran Turismo, Returnal, God of War. The best first year lineup in the history of PlayStation... but then they nuined it all by releasing their games also on PS4 and PC.

Back in june they said all of the "we believe in generations" stuff - that only makes the end result even more insulting.

demons souls its not in pc or ps4,but go on

 

[Damigos]

Doesnt change things for me. I never buy games on launch day anyway

 

[Agent_4Seven]

Nowhere near good upgrade? Around 90% more performance in raster games (sometimes it's over 2x for example in RDR2), 10x performance boost RT performance of games is small upgrade to you? There's also no DLSS, VRS, mesh shaders, HW decompression. For comparison 3080 performance in Control is 52fps with 4K DLSS quality and 100fps with 4K DLSS performance. You would have to run this game at 4K on 1080ti just to get comparable picture quality but 1080ti can only render 7fps at these settings.

1) I don't care about RT whatsoever and until 70% (at least) of AAA/AA and even B level games will be supporting RT
2) I don't care about 4K, I've 1440p 144Hz monitor and my next upgrade will be 21:9 1440p 144Hz.
3) I'm not playing most of the games tested and only care about those I'm playing / will be playing
4) Could not care less about RDR2, maybe 5-6 years from now.
5) DLSS won't be supported in old very demanding games and even though it's a good feature, it won't be available in 70% (at least) of games in 2 years, same goes for RT.

The difference between Pascal and Turing / Ampere is massive already in certain new games and there will be more games like that in the near future. In fact the performance gap will only widen when games will use mesh shaders, VRS, HW decompression on top of RT and DLSS.

Well go on ahead and buy it then. I'll wait RX 6000 news and RTX 4000 series.

 

[Raphael]

I hope the 80e per game is a fuck up someone did. If that will be True im going with xsx, and will buy ps5 once there will be several exclusives at 50% off.

 

[the_master]

This makes me furious!
I need to pay 10€ More for the same game?
I don't think I will. I may not even buy your console at all with this insult.

 

[Starfield]

Dude, you're paying the 10€ extra because that's how much cooler the PS5 is over the Xboxand you don't wanna be an uncool loser right? So be a man and pay the coolness tax

 

[TheGejsza]

Ok so on reddit (r/PS5) you can't talk about the prices now.