SONY ITSELF
Yes, it could have that same effect that Phil said about Gamepass where people bought even more games that were on Gamepass, but in this case the effect should be even bigger since you need to buy the game to play it. Massive win for devs.
But I just said that.
The basic idea from Sony is excellent and i really would like to have short demos for all games on all platforms. But this solution just doesn't sound very beneficial for the devs and putting it behind a paywall doesn't seem to be fair for the customers. Guess we have to wait and see if and how it works out for everybody.
Putting online behind a paywall was never beneficial to the costumer, yet here we are, same goes for cloud saves, F2P, etc. Ain't nobody going to not subscribe out of principle if they see enough value in it, we all know that.
I am not worried. I am interested. I am not worried about MS/Sony/Nintendo's finances but just interested.
Good point, and saw the blog post that you link.
Nobody got caught up in anything. Games that are not VR in nature and have a price greater than $34 would very much fall under the purview of "select."
Agreed with all these points.
Retail allows you to trade in your games. Some places like Gamestop offer $55 for a trade in if you can finish it in three days after launch. Regardless, I cant trade in my digital purchases which is why refunds are important.
I am ok with trials for PS+ members. I just dont like devs being forced to do it. That's all. Not every game is for everyone, but a lot of times people get swept up by the hype and make purchases they wont make. Devs unfortunately need those suckers. Sometimes those 2-5% (going by trophy percetanges for early game trophies here) are the profit margin for some of these devs.
Again, it ties back to the fact that I cant trade in my digital games. I personally dont like the whole 2 hour return period. Like i said above i agree that you should make your decision before you buy a movie or a game, but if you go to a theater and walk out within half an hour, most movie chains will refund you the ticket. I think Sony just needs to offer refunds for games you accidently purchased which they currently dont do if you started the download which can happen automatically in some cases. They are very rigid about returns.
Yeah, i knew it didnt completely make sense while I was writing it but my thinking is that you need to think about both devs and gamers. This option does not benefit the gamer or the dev. One is forced to make trials available to everyone while the other is forced to buy a $120 subscription just to be able to get a refund. On paper, yes, devs might find a bigger audience but they are being forced to make their games available on a subscription service they might not want for fear of losing those sucker sales, and on paper, yes the gamer finally has more choice when it comes to refunds but they still have to spend $120 to get there. It's not ideal is what I was trying to say there but i get that it might have come across as a bit obtuse.
Again, the difference is that they are being forced to put their game on this subscription whereas Gamepass gives them a choice. If devs wanted to opt in, Sony wouldve known this and wouldnt have forced this on everyone. Clearly, sony is making this mandatory because devs werent going to opt in.
Do we know how many Dev supports the Game Help feature? I wonder what the % is
The fact that they'd have to code both a timer and an in-game purchase check in order to create a time limit trial function is, most certainly, "extra work". It's code they wouldn't be required to write otherwise. And that's the easiest solution.
Of course they do. Just like Microsoft had the power to force all developers to add achievements when they launched the 360.
I bet it's in the SDK, much like remote play and other firmware feature toggles in the devkit.
Steam did this and small indie games could be finished in two hours.
Would be awesome to see someone like Rockstar or Call of Duty saying
As a customer, It would be pretty great. As a dev, I would be pissed.
Locking it behind Premium is so, so stupid tho
Games over $34, not all games.
Not only that, but special work to ensure trial users don't pop trophies and then more work to ensure trial conversions pop them correctly after buying.
True. I guess we will wait and see. Hopefully, third-parties get some sort of cut.
it could, but requiring demos in a age where demos are very prevalent is a really strange and old school approach. Why should these companies spend money to create a demo that they aren't paid to make?? Basically you are making something that helps Sony make money on subscriptions, but the developer make next to nothing?
Exactly my thoughts. Sony should make this optional and reward devs with something like:
Why would this be a thing? Sony has already tested free trials and you could get trophies through them without buying the game.
thats what sony is doing. you can either roll out a custom demo build, or we'll do the 2hr timer for you.
So 120$ for Steam refund policy?
Well, you could think of Gamepass as "forcing" devs to put their game on it for whatever MS is offering or they'll be left in the dust as people are being taught that games aren't something you buy.
