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Sony reportedly very confident with Jade Raymond's Fairgame$
StreetsofBeige
Gold Member
Looks better than the game. And will last longer too.Sony was also confident enough in Concord to make this
Men_in_Boxes
Snake Oil Salesman
League of Legends isn't woke?
SlimySnake
Flashless at the Golden Globes
yep. this is an institutional failure. its not just the devs, its everyone at sony who kept concord alive while killing factions, shutting down multiple other studios, and laying off 900 devs from actually productive studios like ND, GG and Insomniac.
they need to name names and fire them one by one. or this will happen again when fair games comes out or marathon or horizon mp.
they need to bring in a guy who will cancel every last hero shooter, extraction shooter and destiny expansion. go back to making single player games with multiplayer elements, not the other way around. cod still hasnt stopped doing it. they still make a campaign every year evne though only 10% of people play it. they still work on 8v8 mp even though warzone is way more popular. no idea why sony studios cant do the same.
it shouldnt be that hard to release tlou2 with a factions 6v6 mp. you used to that in the ps3 days.
StreetsofBeige
Gold Member
And the character select screen has some nice animations and lip synching. The characters and colours are trash, but whomever did the mocap and audio synching did a solid job.
I would have never guessed in a million years the best looking things for a video game were the character select screen and a custom gamepad.
Holammer
Member
Well it is, but it did not start that way. It got corrupted over time.
To their credit, they still do sexy & badass character designs. So people ignore Riot's virtue signal stuff.
Clintizzle
Lord of Edge.
Are Jade Raymond's nudes part of the pre-order bonus?
Generic
Member
They are the most liked as well. Most people buy a PlayStation to play multiplayer games.
Ridicululzz
Member
Were they confident in Concord as well?
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Astray
Member
First of all, dislike numbers are no longer real (only Google have the real dislike figures now), they're shitty estimates made by the browser extension you downloaded.
With that out of the way, Fairgame$ actually has a somewhat better chance for success because (at least from what I've understood) it's launching into a far less crowded GAAS sub-market (heist co-op), that has a vastly weakened lead franchise (Payday 2 is around ~5000 CCU rn from a high of 250k, Payday 3 has ~600 with an all-time high of 77k*, and has <%50 positive reviews on Steam). EDIT: The sub-market also expects to pay for entry, this isn't hero shooters where the majority of incumbents are F2P.
The big elephant in the room there is GTA 6 and whatever it brings into the online multiplayer space. That could be the big kahuna that completely slays Fairgame$, especially if it launches around or after GTA6 launches. I'd imagine that Sony knows when it's releasing and will take measures to avoid it.
*CCU discussions are flawed because Payday is a paid series, but it's the best I have at my disposal short of reading Embracer quarterly reports.
Imagine having one of the biggest hits in your history AND one of your worst flops in the same fiscal year. I would pay good money to listen in on the Totoki/Hulst convos that are happening rn.
With that out of the way, Fairgame$ actually has a somewhat better chance for success because (at least from what I've understood) it's launching into a far less crowded GAAS sub-market (heist co-op), that has a vastly weakened lead franchise (Payday 2 is around ~5000 CCU rn from a high of 250k, Payday 3 has ~600 with an all-time high of 77k*, and has <%50 positive reviews on Steam). EDIT: The sub-market also expects to pay for entry, this isn't hero shooters where the majority of incumbents are F2P.
The big elephant in the room there is GTA 6 and whatever it brings into the online multiplayer space. That could be the big kahuna that completely slays Fairgame$, especially if it launches around or after GTA6 launches. I'd imagine that Sony knows when it's releasing and will take measures to avoid it.
*CCU discussions are flawed because Payday is a paid series, but it's the best I have at my disposal short of reading Embracer quarterly reports.
He's also responsible for one of their biggest hits ever, Helldivers 2. And what's likely gonna be a hit for Sony (Astro Bot).
Imagine having one of the biggest hits in your history AND one of your worst flops in the same fiscal year. I would pay good money to listen in on the Totoki/Hulst convos that are happening rn.
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StreetsofBeige
Gold Member
The only heist going on is Jade Raymond getting tons of cash for another Concord coming soon.
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FoxMcChief
Gold Member
Gamer_By_Proxy
Member
Nope. A lot of people play MP filler inbetween the SP games they like the most.
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Member
it's gonna do worse numbers than Concord.
ViciousAgenda
Member
They're hardly gonna say they're seriously worried about it.
possumarmada
Banned
Gonna politely disagree. Game looks like a total waste of time and money. I will be legitimately surprised if it does not bomb.
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Member
FoxMcChief
Gold Member
But what are the expectations? Those matter most.
SmokedMeat
Gamer™
Team Shooter failed so let’s do an Extraction Shooter. Not too many of those right?
Astray
Member
I can confirm that one copy was indeed pre-ordered (by me).
MostlyPeaceful
Banned
Topher
Identifies as young
I'm dreaming I know, but it would be damn nice if something like that woke ole Sony up out of their Gaas-induced stupor.
kevboard
Member
2 extraction shooters! don't forget Marathon
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Men_in_Boxes
Snake Oil Salesman
Good chance that the characters are a little less DEI focused after Concords failure. They don't want mocking on social media pre release.
Jesb
Member
MMMMMMM JADE, I would eat her bum with a spoon!
How many co workers you think did this babe.
James Sawyer Ford
Member
I dunno, I’ll give it a fair shake like I do everything
It probably will bomb but I hope it brings something new and exciting to the table like HD2
The trailer showed some cool set piece type encounters that I hope are common in the game, that’s what made HD2 so epic
VeganElduderino
Member
yeah, I wonder too must be the higher positioned dudes , that got a taste of that pussy!
Punished Miku
Human Rights Subscription Service
Sure. Super duper confident right now at Sony GAAS HQ.
Neon Xenon
Member
And you know what? You're right. The work put into things like animations and lip syncing highlights actual talent that could have gone towards something far more interesting.
Haymar is about the only character I just barely like the design of. And for a Sci-Fi game that's supposed to have a wide variety of fictional races, I think that one of the few designs that I find overall tolerable being a human isn't really a good thing.
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Kotaro
Member
League of Legends, Overwatch are all woke, but they didn't start that way. Remember they started way before the wokeness came into people mindset. So they got to establish the fanbase and survive the culture wars, maybe not expanding but at least enough for them to continue on
Nowadays it's hard to escape woke elements in almost any game. The ones that are free of woke elements, managed to do well even as new franchise, Lies of P, Stellar Blade, Wukong
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mckmas8808
Mckmaster uses MasterCard to buy Slave drives
You are so right.
Bernardougf
Member
This is why sales losses only is not a good metric of a huge fail ... what Concord did was absolutely taint Sony's image in the gaas space, after the cancelations of ND game and heavy marketing of this turd of a game ... who tf will be running to buy their next gaas ? .... thats why they took it down so fast ... they want people to forget this shit asap
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ReBurn
Gold Member
I don't have a good feeling about the game. Nothing I've seen related to it has seemed extraordinary so hopefully they do a better job of creating a hook that people who enjoy the genre will like.
Honestly, I not going to buy it because it's not the kind of game I enjoy. It could have a hook that I just can't see or don't get.
Honestly, I not going to buy it because it's not the kind of game I enjoy. It could have a hook that I just can't see or don't get.
DarkstarRising13
Member
I agree with Bernardougf; Sony's upper management should note that Concord will damage its reputation in the long run. This is PlayStation's Redfall; an absolute disaster that will be a stain that will never go away. They should count themselves lucky that Astro Bot - which I will buy on Day 1 (Physical Edition) - will save them from that catastrophe. Ironically, they're shutting down that abomination the same day Astro Bot will launch.
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Astray
Member
Apex Legends started out woke and is a smash hit.
The woke stuff never killed a game on its own.
The problem has nothing to do with the games being GAAS… I’ve met a lighting compositor who was into me and she was a really weird person (she had a woke ego) Wait til you’re single player games have terrible gameplay and corny stories….. Multiplayer games need great GAMEPLAY!!! FF16 is a game with great graphics but garbage gameplay but it’s story and graphics hide it’s flaws…
Most of these devs are artsy and care less about the actual GAME… These developers forgot that most of the actual gamers are MEN!!!
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reinking
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Moochi
Member
League gets grandfathered in
Kotaro
Member
it started in 2019, ok maybe once in blue moon a new woke franchise can prosper, good luck trying again in this current toxic culture war environment
You do know GG is making a woke horizon multiplayer game right???
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