Hexa
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Playstation Max = PS+ and PSVUE for $30 a month
Receive a free PS4 with a 2 year contract.
I feel people would bite.
Sony reveals PlayStation Vue streaming service.
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Playstation Max = PS+ and PSVUE for $30 a month
Receive a free PS4 with a 2 year contract.
I feel people would bite.
Vanillalite
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I don't think they meant how fast your connection is, but rather handling the load of a gazillion people streaming at the same time.
You know, if they added Disney and brought this to my area, I'd seriously be considering it. I like our cable company and I like having cable tv (it makes great background and sometimes you don't know what you want to watch and it's easier just to pick what's on than try to pick any certain show). But our cable/internet company really wants out of the cable business so keeps upping the price on it (too bad, they get funimation and no one else does. Even Verizon got rid of it but since FIOS here got bought by Frontier we got to keep it).
And I don't want to go to Comcast (too many bad stories and we've had mostly good experiences with Frontier. The internet is reliable, they've been very quick to fix it the one time they needed to come over. THey're one of the few ISPs that don't have caps on broadband that I know of and I know comcast has caps. Hell, once again we lucked out that Frontier bought out FIOS in our area cause Verizon does too).
Nor do I want to do Dish (I really don't want to have to deal with a satellite dish. Talk about all the issues of dealing with antenna tv all over again).
And I don't want to go to Comcast (too many bad stories and we've had mostly good experiences with Frontier. The internet is reliable, they've been very quick to fix it the one time they needed to come over. THey're one of the few ISPs that don't have caps on broadband that I know of and I know comcast has caps. Hell, once again we lucked out that Frontier bought out FIOS in our area cause Verizon does too).
Nor do I want to do Dish (I really don't want to have to deal with a satellite dish. Talk about all the issues of dealing with antenna tv all over again).
schwabdizzle
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I wonder what pricing will be.
Inferno313
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Don't see why it wouldn't be 1080p (albiet with a crappy bitrate), everything streams in 1080p nowadays.
It doesn't matter what was meant it is incorrect regardless. It handles "gazillion" right now. What is the thinking here? Vue is available that means the internet crashes?
Local games are blacked out? I had the NHL game center for the Penguins and since I live in California so it didn't happen to me. Sunday ticket blacks out games but I use a VPN to get around that, just need to find out what market they are showing what games where. Using a VPN isn't perfect but it does work for me.
RadarScope1
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I actually haven't paid for cable for over a decade. I'm just going by what friends tell me they pay and my own assumptions. I know I paid about $70 a month for basic cable back when I did subscribe. I assume it's much more for full cable and factoring in rising costs.
ArkhamFantasy
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Cable companies and the blatantly corrupt politicians that cable has in thier pockets are the big obstacle in my opinion.
cable doesnt like competition.
No it doesn't. Most HD cable stations still are not at 1080p. Lots of Netflix content is not 1080p. So not almost everything.
Danlord
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Can anyone tell me how this will affect TV series age ratings and censorship for content, because it has me wondering the ramifications of an online streaming TV distribution service being able to have more flexibility.
Watching Breaking Bad and Orange is the New Black was really good and a good change of pace from the regular TV shows I used to watch (most are from US television anyways) and I attribute that to being an online distribution service and having less restrictions in the content they show compared to regular Cable/Satellite TV broadcasts like I get here in the UK with Sky and Virgin Media.
Will this mean TV shows can get more mature and less "dumbed down" and have more creative freedom in terms of content that we can't otherwise get from regular TV?
Watching Breaking Bad and Orange is the New Black was really good and a good change of pace from the regular TV shows I used to watch (most are from US television anyways) and I attribute that to being an online distribution service and having less restrictions in the content they show compared to regular Cable/Satellite TV broadcasts like I get here in the UK with Sky and Virgin Media.
Will this mean TV shows can get more mature and less "dumbed down" and have more creative freedom in terms of content that we can't otherwise get from regular TV?
Wait, so i understand it like this:
Am i right?
MS messed up by not supporting cablecard and having onboard DVR for TV purposes.
Snake29
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NumberThree
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Xbox One is your all in one entertainment solution.
HawksWinStanley
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That's the biggest question. For all the shit "M$" gets for their money grubbing I've been much more offended by some of the pricing structures Sony's been throwing out lately. The hilarious PS Now prices, the forced PS+ for multiplayer, the stingy sales and wavering quality in free games on Plus, etc. have been really turning me off to it for the past several months.
Since nobody else is really doing this right now I can easily see them cashing in...and people will pay it.
Wait, so i understand it like this:
Am i right?
That's probably accurate initially, but I don't see a service like this not being available on more devices to be successful. I imagine you could ultimately use a XBone to stream via the browser, much like they will probably allow streaming to any computer.
Also, the main difference will likely be in the way subscription works. Both in terms of cost and flexibility of packages. If they get those right, whether you need a box or not is a smaller benefit.
Jesus. I would still buy an Xbox One but wow its pretty fucking hilarious this situation.Correct!
Ahahaha, i see what you did there.
Nope. See OP for more info.
TheAbsolution
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Not really comparable.
It combines VOD, DVR, and Live TV.
Sony may offer the ability to pay more to keep some stuff forever but as I understand it, the DVR'd stuff only stays on for 28 days in the cloud.
digoutyoursoul
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That's a very big thing for many. A more "a la carte" option with varying tiers of costs, and not tied to a cable box is something many have asked for.
TheLegendary
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Wait, so i understand it like this:
Am i right?
The HDMI In with a cable box was always a stopgap. They've clearly been trying to move to an IPTV solution for years, even back with the 360. I wonder how much the backlash pushed them from their original goals though. I was one of the few (apparently) that was super excited about what I thought they were moving towards.
This Sony offering definitely interests me as well. I'm a cable-cutter myself and depending on the price I'll definitely consider it.
kingwingin
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Would I be able to watch cable on my vita?
But if you want a cheaper option with less choice basic cable already exists. As far as tied to a cable box, most cable offer vast online options now as well. So throw the box out if you don't want to see it I guess.
The ala carte people want is paying for only channels you want and not having to buy into a "package" ie HBO Go or stand alone Sport packages without local black outs. Allowing you to only pay for what you actually watch. This isn't that, not by a long shot. More of the same minus you getting a cable box.
The ala carte people want is paying for only channels you want and not having to buy into a "package" ie HBO Go or stand alone Sport packages without local black outs. Allowing you to only pay for what you actually watch. This isn't that, not by a long shot. More of the same minus you getting a cable box.
It's very likely to come to Vita + PS TV also.
This sounds terrible.
So this can be viewed only on the PS4 and PS3. That cuts out a large percentage of the population.
Then ages 5-40(Just saying) would buy a system then only lets say 21 -40 year olds can afford or care about tv streaming because younger kids have their parents to pay for cable instead of using a console to watch tv.
So now you have maybe 1 console in the house and so people in your house can't watch tv and play games if this is your sole way to watch tv. For families you would need to keep the PS3/4 in the living room and not the owner's bedroom also.
Am I missing something about this?
So this can be viewed only on the PS4 and PS3. That cuts out a large percentage of the population.
Then ages 5-40(Just saying) would buy a system then only lets say 21 -40 year olds can afford or care about tv streaming because younger kids have their parents to pay for cable instead of using a console to watch tv.
So now you have maybe 1 console in the house and so people in your house can't watch tv and play games if this is your sole way to watch tv. For families you would need to keep the PS3/4 in the living room and not the owner's bedroom also.
Am I missing something about this?
GifGafIsTheBestGaf
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the day this happens it will be truly the game changer but i doubt it will happen anytime soon because those bastards are like a mob.
Trogdor1123
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Think a bit more long term.
TheAbsolution
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The service will likely be device agnostic. It's just on PS devices because that's what is quicker for them to develop. It is coming to iOS too.
I did have the basic package for a short time until Comcast began encrypting all the QAM stations. They started requiring a little box that did not pass through the HD signal. It was terrible.
I like sports just fine, it just wasn't worth the cost. I still watch some games on the major networks OTA. Other than that, I don't watch much live TV, but when my mother-in-law visits she likes to see her shows. The HD antenna suits her needs.
My days of paying $50+ for TV are over. If something reasonable comes out at a lower price point, I'll do the math and consider it, just as I do for Hulu+. I watch about 2-3 shows a week on Hulu+, at $8 a month that comes to a dollar per show or less. I can accept that and it was cheaper per show than I was getting with cable.
In the summer when there's not much to watch on Hulu+, I cancel it.
The inability to read an article before posting is staggering today.
Okay, that makes more sense, I didn't see that in the article in the op.
After initial PS3 and PS4 field test Sony rolls out iOS application. Article did not say anything about Android platform but safe assume its coming as well. Only missing horse is WindowsPhone8 it may or may not be supported.
What about Europe and Asia? It's second biggest question but knowing f*up complex media IP rights and regional broadcasting rights its a long way before this is run outside of USA.
It will only happen when cable subscribers start dropping significantly. If competing services without sports arrive (such as Vue, it seems) then those that do not care for sports may start switching if they see value. That's about the only chance I see of breaking the sports network hegemony.
I'm fine with having a non-sports and a sports bundle. They would be priced about equal at $30-$40 each. Let those who must have all those sports channels pay their fair share. lol
EdReedFan20
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The Ocho! Nice Dodgeball reference.
Good for you. I've pondered cutting the cord for a while but it seems to come down to about $20 in savings and I would still have to pay for sports or go to the bar. In my case it's not worth it.
PS. Check out ebay or CAG for Hulu+/Netflix yearly subscriptions for $30.
No they didn't. Cablecard is a dead end. It doesn't work with Satellite providers. It barely works with cable providers.
The way things are going there isn't going to be "one" cable replacement.. you'll need half a dozen services to get access to a variety of content.
And each service will have far more "Flux" than cable ever did.. as companies can decide to not renew contracts and suddenly access to one "channels" content will require a different/new "app."
I'm honestly just waiting for the day a company like Comcast actually offers ala-carte access to all of the companies they have a contract with via an internet based service.. I have my doubts anyone but the existing / embedded "Cable companies" are ever going to really have the "future" I want.
And each service will have far more "Flux" than cable ever did.. as companies can decide to not renew contracts and suddenly access to one "channels" content will require a different/new "app."
I'm honestly just waiting for the day a company like Comcast actually offers ala-carte access to all of the companies they have a contract with via an internet based service.. I have my doubts anyone but the existing / embedded "Cable companies" are ever going to really have the "future" I want.
Based off of their pricing scheme for PSNow I'm estimating somewhere in the ballpark of $400 a month
It was pretty laughable that MS would center their entire game console reveal on TV TV TV.
LegendofDragoonLives
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30$/month would be the sweet spot.Based off of their pricing scheme for PSNow I'm estimating somewhere in the ballpark of $400 a month
jeff_rigby
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No, there is a very short timeline where you have this and a Cable Box DVR converts RF to IPTV and the XB1 can be a DVR. If you have a Cablebox without DVR or VOD then you can't do the following and need HDMI pass-through (VOD IPTV using Playready stays the same from now past 2017):
Then this (2017) where the XB1 can be a multi-room DVR but HDMI Pass-though is useless as everything is served as IPTV:
Suzushiiro
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How does what Sony's doing offend you more than MS when the only thing on that list that MS isn't also doing (and arguably worse than how bad Sony's doing it) is the PSNow pricing, for obvious reasons?