South Park - Season 17 - Begins September 25th @ 10PM ET

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I thought it was decent and hilarious. Laughed quite consistently throughout the episode and laughed uncontrollably at the final joke. Still hyped.
 
Liked the Alec Baldwin bit & the Jennifer Lawrence bit. As well as Butters signing James Brown.

Loved Barbrady's bit in the dmv. Actually laughed out loud.

Overall though, nothing special.
 
That was a solid opening episode. South Park threads always turn into people shitting on every episode. I really liked the new intro, it was a nice change of pace. The episode itself wasn't gut-busting the whole way through but when the jokes hit they hit hard.
 
The humor was ok, but the real star was the social satire, as usual. Shitter was spot on. Web 2.0 people piss me off.
 
I honestly wish Matt n Trey would just say fuck it for one season and take the show back to basics. I always thought it was really weird for a show with deliberately crappy animation to decide that it would all of a sudden have super awesome detailed animation, yet still have everyone move in the same construction paper silly style.
Make the animation simple again, kill kenny again, be less story focused and more silly again.
 
Don't understand the hate, Season 15 was an absolute riot with atleast half a dozen gems.

Humancentipad, Royal Pudding, City Sushi, to name a few.
 
Season 15 was the best in years, but season 16 was one of the worst so it evens out. As weak as openers usually are that was a particularly weak one
 
I didn't like the episode a whole lot, but it was still watchable. The alec baldwin stuff just kept coming and I didn't think any of it was funny. Butters was the highlight of the show like always

If any show deserves to have a 17 season run it's south park. But there's only so many cartman centric episodes I can tolerate and it's reaching the breaking point. I don't find the character interesting anymore, for whatever reason.
 
kirblar said:
They were going in on an audience (absurdly privacy-obsessed libertarians) who are usually big fans of the show, so I'm not expecting a warm reception for this episode. Wasn't all that funny, but definitely made its point.
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It is funny what people see in an episode. It also mocked government and Obama worship and "hero" whistleblowers. It actually made the episode a mess by trying to do to many things.


The best parts were the Alec Baldwin stuff and Butters confessions. I also thought using santa as the ultimate spy tool was clever.
 
Best part of the episode was the idea of the NSA getting its powers from Santa. They wasted that by only spending a minute on the concept. I think older South Park would have been more about that and freeing Santa.

EBCubs03 said:
I didn't like the episode a whole lot, but it was still watchable. The alec baldwin stuff just kept coming and I didn't think any of it was funny. Butters was the highlight of the show like always

If any show deserves to have a 17 season run it's south park. But there's only so many cartman centric episodes I can tolerate and it's reaching the breaking point. I don't find the character interesting anymore, for whatever reason.
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His voice and personality have changed over the years. He used to be over-reactive and stupid, immature and intolerant but all with a flair of naivety and innocence... now he's stupid for the sake of being stupid, intolerant for the sake of being intolerant. I love Cartman but the spirit of the character has changed significantly since about season 12.
 
Okay episode (after a terrible start). Butters was kinda weak.

DarkKyo said:
His voice and personality have changed over the years. He used to be over-reactive and stupid, immature and intolerant but all with a flair of naivety and innocence... now he's stupid for the sake of being stupid, intolerant for the sake of being intolerant. I love Cartman but the spirit of the character has changed significantly since about season 12.
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Right. This is true for the whole show though.
 
DarkKyo said:
His voice and personality have changed over the years. He used to be over-reactive and stupid, immature and intolerant but all with a flair of naivety and innocence... now he's stupid for the sake of being stupid, intolerant for the sake of being intolerant. I love Cartman but the spirit of the character has changed significantly since about season 12.
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Yes, it almost reminds me of Homer from the Simpsons. I remember when he used to be a good father that just happened to get into bad situations every now and then because he had bad luck. Now he is just a mean person trying to do bad things.
 
Pretty average, the end part with santa was kinda funny. But what did they do with the intro? So different, don't know how I feel about that.

Maybe a few of the episodes will be stinkers cause most of the creative muscle is working/worked on the Stick of Truth game.
 
Spieler Eins said:
Okay episode (after a terrible start). Butters was kinda weak.



Right. This is true for the whole show though.
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The characters this most applies to(in my opinion) are Cartman, Kyle, Randy, and sometimes Butters. Their current personality traits are just parodies of their old selves. Stan and Kenny remain mostly untouched, as do the rest of the students and school staff.
 
The season premieres are always one of the worst episodes, so this was expected.

They tried to make fun of both sides as usual, but they didn't really do it well. It was confusing to understand what they were getting at, and I just didn't think it was very funny.
 
DarkKyo said:
The characters this most applies to(in my opinion) are Cartman, Kyle, Randy, and sometimes Butters. Their current personality traits are just parodies of their old selves. Stan and Kenny remain mostly untouched, as do the rest of the students and school staff.
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The characters you list are pretty much the main cast now, though. Very little variation left. The concept of touching the latest news/trends also feels way forced nowadays compared to pre-12.
 
The season opener was ok. Nothing great, but nothing awful either. The story was a bit untidy with respect to the point that it was trying to make.




DjRoomba said:
I honestly wish Matt n Trey would just say fuck it for one season and take the show back to basics. I always thought it was really weird for a show with deliberately crappy animation to decide that it would all of a sudden have super awesome detailed animation, yet still have everyone move in the same construction paper silly style.
Make the animation simple again, kill kenny again, be less story focused and more silly again.
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100% disagree.

The first few seasons of the show featuring super basic juvenile humor had nothing provocative to say at all. South Park of 2013 may be less universal in the type of topics that it tries to address than South Park of 1997; but it sure as heck is more interesting to watch.
 
DjRoomba said:
I honestly wish Matt n Trey would just say fuck it for one season and take the show back to basics. I always thought it was really weird for a show with deliberately crappy animation to decide that it would all of a sudden have super awesome detailed animation, yet still have everyone move in the same construction paper silly style.
Make the animation simple again, kill kenny again, be less story focused and more silly again.
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I for one heavily disagree... the first 4~5 seasons are pretty lame when compared to the amazing social satire on display in seasons 6~10. What made South Park great isn't that it was silly, but how pinpoint accurate the guys where on so many issues.
 
The episode was quite funny here and there but the overall plot was weak and hard to finish.
The intro was quite rough, it did not look polished at all, don't like
 
Z.. said:
I for one heavily disagree... the first 4~5 seasons are pretty lame when compared to the amazing social satire on display in seasons 6~10. What made South Park great isn't that it was silly, but how pinpoint accurate the guys where on so many issues.
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nah 4 and especially 5 are great. 1 is the only unwatchable season really.
 
Real Hero said:
nah 4 and especially 5 are great. 1 is the only unwatchable season really.
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I wouldn't say any of it is unwatchable... but the first 3 seasons have the lamest humor, yeah. 4 and 5 are great, as they clearly demonstrate a growing tendency towards whistleblowing... but not 6~10 levels,though. :P
 
I thought the new intro was awesome, but sadly that was the best part.

The episode seemed to really drag on. The voices of some of the characters also seemed really weird. I felt like Butters sounded like more of a wimp, Cartman sounded kinda off, and Cartman's mom sounded like a whole different character.

Did anyone else notice anything weird about the voices? Am I crazy?
 
Z.. said:
I for one heavily disagree... the first 4~5 seasons are pretty lame when compared to the amazing social satire on display in seasons 6~10. What made South Park great isn't that it was silly, but how pinpoint accurate the guys where on so many issues.
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I love both kinds of South Park. The early seasons had humor that was more quirky and whimsical, which made for a lot of constant, unexpected laughs.
 
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