Rollo Tomasi
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Giving away most of their non-Avengers characters to other movie studios helped get them out of their bankruptcy issues back in the late 90s/early 00s.
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Spider-Man is Entering The Marvel Cinematic Universe
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Giving away most of their non-Avengers characters to other movie studios helped get them out of their bankruptcy issues back in the late 90s/early 00s.
That's the argument you're going with? lol.
Haloid1177
Banned
Moving Black Panther dampened my excitement.
That's the way most contracts work for film and TV adaptations of printed materials.
Heck, it's the same thing Marvel and DC did to their own writers (the most famous example being the rights to Watchmen revert to Alan Moore when it goes out of print. Which it will never, ever do).
Cpt.Underpants
Member
So, there's no absolute chance that Spidey would appear in those Marvel movies?
Zeus Molecules
illegal immigrants are stealing our air
I would argue against this but its 8:30 where I am and I am already at my daily nerd limit.....I'll just say that ASM2 covered the last time your statement was true....
Pie and Beans
Look for me on the local news, I'll be the guy arrested for trying to burn down a Nintendo exec's house.
Lots of shit sure, but plenty of gold. Miles Morales tenure has been just shit, no gold.
Basically Marvel should look to the Spectacular Spider-Man cartoon for how to get it absolutely right and just blitz it.
Who says this has to be an origin? The audience is familiar with the origin, just start the movie with Peter already Spiderman and roll with it.
What, why? Now he's a big summer tent pole.
Not really an argument, I done said my piece about spider in OT gaming and the BCT thread, i'm kinda done. For a marvel mascot a large LARGE amount of his comic material is just bad. And can see the appeal of a loreless spiderman. I personally don't care, its going to be neat either way. And am patiently waiting for doom to come back home. But yeah, a lot spidey comics...not great
Sure, if thats how you wish to phrase it,
crimzonflame
Member
How will this deal work? I dont understand. So Marvel just wants the character in their movies? Thats it?
Zen_Arcade
Banned
The last time my statement was true was Civil War. It's like, the main thing people remember from that series that was handled well. After that is when Spider-Man comics generally started to go down hill.
You can't sit there and tell me that 90's Spider-Man comics had no influence or importance for the comic book industry.
This is true of every comic book hero that has both popularity and longevity. Look at Wolverine comics or Flash comics some time. The majoirty of Wolverine comics I've read are terrible. That doesn't mean the characters aren't important. You don't fill 50 years up with complete literary gold. Nothing has that track record.
StylesTrip
Member
Oh man, today...is already a good day.
So very excited to see what Marvel is going to do.
So very excited to see what Marvel is going to do.
MMMM nah, I think all the spider people that aren't peter have been on point, even ock. And even peter has been on point lately so thats nice.
Spectacular is good. Did you know there is a new spidey cartoon with flash venom in it? I had no effing idea.
Pop-O-Matic
Banned
This is true of pretty much EVERY major comic book character.
Yeah, the Black Panther pushback really does dampen this. 3 1/2 years? It's like it doesn't exist anymore.
Yeah, Spidey's where the money's at, but Marvel doing BP could have some cultural impact. I was really excited to see how it would turn out and even more; see how people would respond to it.
Yeah, Spidey's where the money's at, but Marvel doing BP could have some cultural impact. I was really excited to see how it would turn out and even more; see how people would respond to it.
Ether_Snake
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Spidey should be in the Doctor Strange movie if they don't want to reboot everything/go over his origin story.
This way you can basically do some weird inter dimensional thing to justify his arrival in the MCU while giving a publicity boost to Dr Strange.
This way you can basically do some weird inter dimensional thing to justify his arrival in the MCU while giving a publicity boost to Dr Strange.
Weapxn
Mikkelsexual
...it got pushed back, like, 8 months. Could you be any more dramatic?
The Elite
BOSS
It's not cancelled. It can still have cultural impact. Shifting the date doesn't mean it doesn't exist.
metalslimer
Member
So the new spidey will easily break a billion?
I know right.
Flintty
Member
Kevin Feige from Marvel is now co producing the solo spider man films as well.
The result will be better Spiderman movies, and more money for Marvel and Sony.
Edited to reflect my reaction.
None of the previous ones have, why would you think this one would?
fallengorn
Bitches love smiley faces
You mean, he comes from an alternate dimension? They're just going to include him as if he's always existed in the MCU. Possible they might delay his introduction to another movie, but it's going to be Civil War. I think that's what really spurred Feige to do this.
crimzonflame
Member
I wholeheartedly agree. A major reason I stopped reading comics is because Spider-Man is constantly shit. It'll have a good run then it will turn garbage for the next 5 years or so. In the 90's it had decent story lines, Aunt May died, all was well, but then Harry comes back, clones, Aunt May returns, etc. A period in 2000's was good after years of being garbage MJ and Peter were back together, but then you got shit like Gwen and Norman's kids. The retconning of the marriage was the last straw for me even though, apparently people say single Peter is better, but I dont really care anymore.
Avengers (Civil War) boost. That plus higher quality from having Feige on board should do the trick.
Maybe I am crazy optimistic, but moving him to Summer is shows they actaulyl believe in the property.
The Technomancer
card-carrying scientician
They'd have to actively try to make a worse movie than ASM2 and we're at a stage now where "internet hype" over things like Marvel re-acquiring creative control can translate to actual box office hype
Inhumans got it worst. Inhumans storyline introduced in
---AoS----
darkhunger
Member
It was the only box office pseudo-bomb in the entire MCU. Which is a completely different issue altogether and automatically makes it tough for Marvel to pitch a sequel to anybody (not to mention Universal is supposed to own distribution rights to Hulk still). Afflalo's Hulk is often cited as one of the high points of Avengers, which, you know, is one of the top three highest grossing movies of all time. So I stand by my point.
Zeus Molecules
illegal immigrants are stealing our air
The main thing about that series that was handled well was what happened to cap in the end and how Iron man regrets it.
Civil War as a comic was pretty bad for Peter when it came ou and it led directly "to one more day" which took the title of the nadir of spider man comics from the clone saga that was made in the 90's? Like I know spiderman is in this movie but I still don't see them going all the way and doing to spidey what was done in the comics. It literally broke spiderman in the comics and forced a retcon
Flintty
Member
Spidey has been known to break the fourth wall. Perhaps the opening scene can be him webbing up some cons after a big chase scene with Spidey narrating. He then says 'I guess you're wondering what my story is?' Before giving a thirty second flashback of getting bitten, introducing MJ or Gwen, Harry etc. Dunno.
Pai Pai Master
Banned
This is the craziest news to wake up to
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Pushed BP back almost a year? wtf 
metalslimer
Member
The Shit tier amazing ones did 700 right? The MCU should at least get it to a billion going by the rest of the their movies.
sleverfunk
Member
Wait guys. So marvel and sony partnership right? Hoping this partnership will also lead to Marvel Vs Capcom 4! Just let sony send money to capcom to develop it.
I wasn't being dramatic. I thought it was coming out 2016.
In any case, it's 3.5 years from now. Not even worth thinking about for now.
My first takeaway from that was that whatever happens during the Inhumans movie will have no bearing on Infinity War Part II. I had this misguided hope that the second half of infinity war would be the entire MCU vs Thanos.
I think it deserves special mention.
By the way I'm not here to ruin your fun enjoy your spider in MCU. I talk shit about most comics I like.
AyaisMUsikWhore
Member
Wow! Woke up to this slayage today. This is like megaton for Sony and Marvel! I am.... So happy. This is why Marvel are my faves..Spiderman in the Civil War. I can't handle this.
Manmademan
Member
Not worrying at all, it's business. The only bright spot about Sony having control over Spider-Man is that they could release films on their schedule without worrying about impacting the gross of MCU films. If spidey released two weeks after Captain America or whatever and cut its legs off, so be it.
Now that they're collaborating, this is going to be a factor. You're not going to get as many movies per year. Spider-Man is going to be taking slots that would have gone to less recognizable franchises. If Marvel got the Xmen and FF tomorrow, you could pretty much say goodbye to properties like BP, Strange, Captain Marvel or Ant Man EVER getting developed.