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Shauni said:
Lol, who said anything about a fucking conspiracy, or that it only happens to me, what the hell are you talking about? Like I said to Korean above, I'm playing my games, not you. I've played this game and the first to know what a rather shit team looks like, and I've got plenty this time around. Sorry this bothers you so much.
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I think we're talking about different things... Unless I'm mistaken, you're a really good player. If you say your teammates are most of the times worse than opponents, I believe you, but that just mean it's not random.

The game probably have a high rank for you, so it pairs you with weaker players to balance things. Whether that's the right thong to do is another matter...


Edit : besides, I really doubt you loose more than you win, so?
 
I'm Mayo royalty now. Started winning a lot more toward the end; my matches in the morning were rough, a ton of 3v4s thanks to disconnects. Spent a lot of time being That Guy on the Mainstage map, camped up on the central tower on the opposing team's side. It's surprisingly hard to dislodge someone once they're up there.
 
Soak in our glorious Mayo, tommorow the truth will be known. We just need one more win from either USA or EU.

After that Ketchup is history forever.
 
Dyle said:
Made it to Ketchup King. Looking forward to not having to play any Turf War until the next splatfest, doing so much in one go is exhausting and reveals how much the game struggles to make good matches without a clear objective to focus on. I really liked Shifty Station, my guess is that what they meant by calling it a special stage is that a stage with this look but different name will be in every Splatfest as a sort of beta for an upcoming map. I don't seem them designing this weird stage which huge moving areas unlike any other map just for a Splatfest.
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Truly hope this is the case, but I was under the impression that the stage will come back with the same shifting gimmick each Splatfest, albeit with a different design. I've really been enjoying it though, most of the other stages in the game feel pretty dry in Turf Wars to me and tuned more for the ranked modes. Here's hoping S2 follows in the footsteps of S1 and introduces more dynamic stages over time.
 
Koren said:
I think we're talking about different things... Unless I'm mistaken, you're a really good player. If you say your teammates are most of the times worse than opponents, I believe you, but that just mean it's not random.

The game probably have a high rank for you, so it pairs you with weaker players to balance things. Whether that's the right thong to do is another matter...


Edit : besides, I really doubt you loose more than you win, so?
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I generally win more than I lose, yeah. It's probably not like a high margin, and it depends on what it is. On Turf Wars, I win more for sure. On Tower Control, I do for sure. For Splat Zones and Rainmaker it's probably closer to 50/50.

But as far as today, woof, lost way more than not. But I'm like 15-4 against Team Mayo, so I've won when it counts, I guess lol
 
Kyrios said:
Out of the 10 matches I played last night at least, 7 of them were against ketchup which is the team I'm on. Ketchup will probably lose because so many matches are going to cancel each other out lol
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Don't think this is necessarily true since the splat fest test had 24% vs 76% and the 76% won. Though it was very very close. Only reason the 76% won is because of the one sided popularity vote
 
Shauni said:
I mean, you can write whatever you want, but I'm the one actually playing my games, not you. It's obviously not every time, and I have gotten on some good teams, but when you're consistently the highest scorer of the game, you see teammates doing stupid shit or not painting significant portions of the maps, and you're consistently on teams that have very low level players against those that lack them, I think I can come to my own conclusions.
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Being the highest scorer doesn't actually mean you are the best player. It means (in Turf Wars) you prioritize inking over fighting. Your particularly strategy in doing so might not be the best one for assisting your team in winning - you can "ink wrong." Like if you are earning all those points inking the spawn at the start of the match instead of backing up your teammates on the front lines.

I'm not saying you're not the best player on your team, but I'm saying the game showing you at the top of the team list doesn't mean you played the best, or contributed most to the win. Maybe the other team had some awesome player that the guy on your team who ranked worst kept sniping before he could do any real damage.
 
Lucent said:
Other way around for me soooo...lol
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Lol. Must just be me then

lyrick said:
Team Ketchup is too busy playing against other members of Team Ketchup, because no one likes mayonnaise.
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Kyrios said:
Out of the 10 matches I played last night at least, 7 of them were against ketchup which is the team I'm on. Ketchup will probably lose because so many matches are going to cancel each other out lol
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Yeah I'm getting a ton of ketchup vs ketchup matches.
 
Dang man.
I'm really starting to despise that dumb homing missile special.
It's annoying af in Salmon Run when multiple Flyfish use it, and it's doubly annoying when multiple human players are able to activate it one after the other.
I wish the gauge filled up slower or something.
 
UncleSporky said:
Being the highest scorer doesn't actually mean you are the best player. It means (in Turf Wars) you prioritize inking over fighting. Your particularly strategy in doing so might not be the best one for assisting your team in winning - you can "ink wrong." Like if you are earning all those points inking the spawn at the start of the match instead of backing up your teammates on the front lines.

I'm not saying you're not the best player on your team, but I'm saying the game showing you at the top of the team list doesn't mean you played the best, or contributed most to the win. Maybe the other team had some awesome player that the guy on your team who ranked worst kept sniping before he could do any real damage.
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Well, I use an Aero, so that is my priority as it should be for anyone who uses that weapon, but I'm the first to the front lines. I'm firmly a charge to the middle first, then ink your base when you die, type.
 
BGBW said:
So many ketchup vs ketchup matches.

I know it was a thing in the first game, but I never actually experienced it in past Splat Fests.
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While there have been a lot of ketchup vs ketchup for me as well, it is no where near as bad as the cake vs ice cream splatfest, where it was extremely rare to fight against cake players. Still, I figured the split between mayo and ketchup would be a bit closer, I was torn between the two when I chose.
 
Shauni said:
Nah, man. I'm consistently cracking 1000+, and 1200+ on an infrequent level, and I've still on a losing side a lot, way more than I have won. Like, no shit, this may be the best I have done point and paint wise in a damn long time. You can only do so much.
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In many of my games, I've noticed that there is usually 1 really good player who just dominates the entire game. Thus, it's his/her team that wins. So if you lose, you were just on the side without this particular player which is 50% probability.

I know this because I am that player in most of my games.
 
Lucent said:
Don't think this is necessarily true since the splat fest test had 24% vs 76% and the 76% won. Though it was very very close. Only reason the 76% won is because of the one sided popularity vote
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Hmmm, yeah I guess it could still go either way.
 
Kyrios said:
Out of the 10 matches I played last night at least, 7 of them were against ketchup which is the team I'm on. Ketchup will probably lose because so many matches are going to cancel each other out lol
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But that doesn't make any sense. Those matches don't count, so how would they hurt?
 
buttdiver said:
In many of my games, I've noticed that there is usually 1 really good player who just dominates the entire game. Thus, it's his/her team that wins. So if you lose, you were just on the side without this particular player which is 50% probability.

I know this because I am that player in most of my games.
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Lol, alright there badass.
 
Shauni said:
I generally win more than I lose, yeah. It's probably not like a high margin, and it depends on what it is. On Turf Wars, I win more for sure. On Tower Control, I do for sure. For Splat Zones and Rainmaker it's probably closer to 50/50.

But as far as today, woof, lost way more than not. But I'm like 15-4 against Team Mayo, so I've won when it counts, I guess lol
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The fact that you won more than you lost (on a long duration) shows you're above average (which isn't news). You cannot say more than that with probabilities without hypothesis on the matchmaking algorithm.

You could be the best player on Earth and still have 51:49. You could even be 20:80 today and still be one of the best players, since the matchmaking was aware of your previous results.

Now, someone that KEEPS losing more than he wins, on a *long time*, in a random (non-splatfest, and with common weapon) matchmaking...
 
DrArchon said:
Just was on a team with a level 30 player, a level 5 player, and a level 1 player. Got stomped despite our best efforts (level 30 guy got over 1000p and I went 9-3 and wasn't far behind on the inking), but that's not much help when someone on the team literally just started playing Splatoon and gets sub-400p with zero kills. I don't blame him, we all have to start somewhere, but couldn't the game at least attempt to pair new players with new players so they don't get stomped into the ground by vets and they don't ruin the games of the vets who get paired with them?

Also, picking Ketchup was clearly a mistake. 50% of my matches are against other Ketchup teams, so what's the point?
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Welcome to just about every splatfest ever.
 
I really wonder about instable connections... I've had a dozen of those today (far more than usual, even if I do get disconnections), most of them at the end of the match (4 or 5 in the countdown), and most of them when I'm winning. I'm sure some people are playing with their internet so that the match fail...
 
I've lost a TON of ketchup vs ketchup matches this splatfest. Luckily, I've won more than I lost of the ketchup vs mayo games. And it's either a victory by 5% or less, or a blowout loss, nothing in between. No idea how this one is gonna turn out.
 
Griss said:
-I can barely find a game in the online mode (splatfest?). Is this because I chose ketchup and there's no Mayo players? I mean, the game is just out, it should be full of players right? Out of five attempts four times my team fills up immediately and the other team never does. The one game I got into was ketchup vs ketchup so I'm not sure how any of this works.
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I learned this lesson in Splatoon1. I never care what the splatfest Vs actually is, I just intentionally pick whichever side I suspect will have the least players so games pop quicker for me.
So this time I picked semen over blood.
 
Every teammate I've had on pump track so far has completely ignored the side areas and just tried to fight for the center. Meanwhile the other team gets free flanks for days.
 
Shauni said:
Well, I use an Aero, so that is my priority as it should be for anyone who uses that weapon, but I'm the first to the front lines. I'm firmly a charge to the middle first, then ink your base when you die, type.
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That's kind of my philosophy too. I'm almost always the top scorer too, 1950-2050, but there have been plenty of games where even though I was at the top of the team but I knew for a fact I didn't play the best. Watched another teammate splat two guys at once and more people at other times, while splatting almost no one and dying several times myself, that sort of thing.

But there are also those games where you look at the end map and you see this long uncontested trail into enemy ink that you know YOU made, and the score was so close that you can basically say you won solely due to that contribution in the end.
 
Finally got a chance to fire this game up. Man it looks so much sharper and better than Splatoon 1. Inkopolis is straight up buzzin right now too. Feels even more festive than the S1 splatfests.
 
JershJopstin said:
But that doesn't make any sense. Those matches don't count, so how would they hurt?
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I was just going off the fact that they don't count lol Players could have enough of Splatfest and barely even fight against their rival team. So all they played in were cancelled out matches which doesn't result in a lose for ketchup, but doesn't result in a win either.
 
So weird man, yesterday all my teams were pretty awesome. Today, I'm getting teams where people won't take easy opportunities to paint the map and we always end up losing. T.T

Mayo is still king tho.
 
Koren said:
I really wonder about instable connections... I've had a dozen of those today (far more than usual, even if I do get disconnections), most of them at the end of the match (4 or 5 in the countdown), and most of them when I'm winning. I'm sure some people are playing with their internet so that the match fail...
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The game is having to "reach out further" in terms of player ping to put together full teams of ketchup or mayo for Splatfest, it's not just throwing all the same local players into a lobby like it usually can.
 
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