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Splinter Cell: Blacklist |OT| Warning: May Contain Trace Amounts Of Stealth
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MAX PAYMENT
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Pre order bonus came inside the box.
Does your copy not have the atrocious GameStop banner across the top?
It should be a specially marked box with a gamestop edition banner. (Get your clutter off of my box gamestop...) inside is a card with a code. If your box doesn't say gamestop below the better with Kinect banner, let them know they gave you the wrong one.
Edit: beaten.
It is good to have though. The pre-order suits offer a lot more stealth than the standard suit you start with.
Yeah it's terrible. They should have allowed just playing from disc one and installing the disc two content. Having a seamless in-game hub menu is kind of stupid on 360 version.
legacyzero
Banned
I only know multiplayer-wise, but so far I love it.
I still don't know if I like the lethal spies or not, but I have adapted.
The maps are great! The game is pretty tight in the gameplay end, and is a pure team based effort. If youddon't have good communication, you'll lose probably.
But I think the taze , stab is BULLSHIT.
IcyRhythms
Member
Originally I manually installed the 1.4GB patch. Someone in this thread said get the new 1.7GB patch instead. After agreeing to the terms, the next page shows all the fixes and I go to click next and the window just freezes. :-\
I have to use task manage to exit. I've restarted my computer numerous times...
so frustrating. Does Uplay not have auto updates?
I have to use task manage to exit. I've restarted my computer numerous times...
so frustrating. Does Uplay not have auto updates?
Sleeping Lesson
Member
Anybody else playing on PC, and want to jump into some Spies vs. Mercs? My Uplay name is SleepingLesson.
MAX PAYMENT
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I thought it was bullshit until I tried it. Taze gun has to reload per shot. You miss, you're boned. And since I can't aim worth a damn, I got myself needlessly killed way too many times trying to perfect it.
It does, but it's not working for this game for some reason.
It's like they had to find a way to shit on what would be otherwise a very good PC port on day one, which is news for Ubi.
NullPointer
Member
I'm loving this so far, but am still trying to get my splinter cell legs going, as this is a very different beast from Conviction and previous games.
Its a lot more open ended, with far more avenues to move about, and side paths and alternate routes etc. Add a ton of enemies with some far reaching patrols and a shitton of gadgets and armaments and you've got something that looks to have a lot of replayability and emergent situations.
The strangest aspect of this game for me is how much simpler *and* more difficult it is. Simpler in that if you screw up stealth you always have a ton of firepower to fall back on, and you can always just murder everybody. More difficult in that its easier said than done to do all that murdering if you're forced to do it at any kind of disadvantage (like screwing up stealth). If the enemies have the drop on you, you better have very quick reflexes and an instant plan B or you can get dropped very, very quickly.
The jargon isn't a problem for me, neither is the lack of Ironside. The tone of the game is dark, and this Fisher looks and sounds like a guy who would cross the world over and sneak through miles of a sewer in the pitch black darkness just so he could sneak into your home to slit your throat. No jokes here - this guy is all about the wetwork.
Its a lot more open ended, with far more avenues to move about, and side paths and alternate routes etc. Add a ton of enemies with some far reaching patrols and a shitton of gadgets and armaments and you've got something that looks to have a lot of replayability and emergent situations.
The strangest aspect of this game for me is how much simpler *and* more difficult it is. Simpler in that if you screw up stealth you always have a ton of firepower to fall back on, and you can always just murder everybody. More difficult in that its easier said than done to do all that murdering if you're forced to do it at any kind of disadvantage (like screwing up stealth). If the enemies have the drop on you, you better have very quick reflexes and an instant plan B or you can get dropped very, very quickly.
The jargon isn't a problem for me, neither is the lack of Ironside. The tone of the game is dark, and this Fisher looks and sounds like a guy who would cross the world over and sneak through miles of a sewer in the pitch black darkness just so he could sneak into your home to slit your throat. No jokes here - this guy is all about the wetwork.
legacyzero
Banned
I got hit with it twice last night while streaming. I said FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU
NoSkillz187
Member
I need some urgent help. If anyone here bought this off of Greenmangaming, where did you get your code for Uplay after you installed it? The code I am putting in does not work in Uplay. The hell is going on?
Agreed - I'm impressed with the more complicated patrol routes. (Not that far into the game, these are just initial impressions.)
I'm doing a ghost playthrough on perfectionist, so falling back on firepower isn't really a viable option. The checkpoint system is pissing me off because I'll ghost through a section, instinctively try to manually save which as far as I know you can't then get killed and have to replay the entire section up to the point of failure. Really wish this game would let you manually save. I do a lot of experimentation in routes and it's a pain to have to keep backtracking so much.
Evolved1
make sure the pudding isn't too soggy but that just ruins everything
Good to hear you like it... I'll have to pick this up soon.
NullPointer
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And there is some pretty nasty tearing (on the 360, with HD textures installed). Almost entirely in the cinematics but probably otherwise too, but if so I haven't really noticed.
People much more sensitive to tearing may have issues though.
People much more sensitive to tearing may have issues though.
Byron Bluth
Banned
Does this support Off-TV Play on Wii U?
Any Digital Foundry analysis between console versions yet?
Any Digital Foundry analysis between console versions yet?
MAX PAYMENT
Member
I'm glad you mentioned this. Assessing an area, coming up with your own plan A, B, and C and then executing is ridiculously fun. Especially when you're at that moment in plan A attempting to slither past a full body armored, shotgun wielding, anti-spy and the brink of success or failure hinges on perfect timing.
And better yet, if you completely fail a moment like this, you can still potentially get away. Dropping a flash bang/smoke bomb, sprinting away from the armored merc to bust out a window, while possibly hitting an unarmored merc with a running take down is equally as intense as some of the best sneaking moments.
Being able to bust out a window half dead, and then using the great level design to find a new vantage point is awesome.
The great single player combined with some nail bitingly intense multiplayer makes Splinter Cell Blacklist one of the only games that makes me sweat while playing it.
Yeah, people made it seem like the story was shitty. Definitely serviceable, and new Sam Fisher is pretty badass, and fits the situation I guess.
After the end of Conviction, I was wondering how the hell they were gonna get Sam back to be the leader of a whole new organization.... I guess him doing it as revenge for Vic kinda makes sense. And I do like the tense dynamic between the team, especially Sam and Briggs. I smell a bromance brewing... if Sam was the bromancing type haha
megabytecr
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Wii U impressions anyone? Can´t find Wii u reviews other than what Ign mentions.
MAX PAYMENT
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The game looks quite a bit cleaner on Xbox. Maybe it's a resolution thing. They do some really cool stuff with the lighting. I don't think the game looks that bad, and it looks a hell of a lot better than conviction. I marathon ran conviction the 2 days before blacklist release.
Everyone face in Blacklist look so weird. Beside Grim. Charlie's face is the worst.
Even though the Christmas Hall (aka the very start of American Consumption) you can probably sneak past to the next area in like less than 5 minutes flat, try to KO/kill them all silently. I can tell you right now after spending like almost 2 and a half or 3 hours on trying to do that I still don't know how many guards there were. Also that fucking Christmas song is now etched into my brain, goddamn it.
I actually went on a KO everyone spree for that mission, but what pissed me off the most was when it went to the after-action-report and it told me I missed one. GRRRR.
NoSkillz187
Member
Now my Uplay code mysteriously worked. Not sure what was going on.
Lostconfused
Member
Bought the game off Green Man Gaming and finally got it to work. I think the default installation path breaks uplay/registry when Windows is set to a different location than north america. So other than wasting some time figuring that out I am really enjoying the game.
I think I've been relying far more on stealth than I ever have with conviction and it's really fun. The AI is super twitchy on realistic and its really easy to get spotted but I also appreciate the extra challenge it provides and how its a bit more difficult to abuse the usual stupidity of AI when it comes to stealth games. Only an hour in so far but its a nice first impression.
I think this was the case with Conviction as well, or maybe only in challenge/co-op levels. If you weren't attacking from a position of strength it was really easy to get overwhelmed by the enemies and die.
I think I've been relying far more on stealth than I ever have with conviction and it's really fun. The AI is super twitchy on realistic and its really easy to get spotted but I also appreciate the extra challenge it provides and how its a bit more difficult to abuse the usual stupidity of AI when it comes to stealth games. Only an hour in so far but its a nice first impression.
I think this was the case with Conviction as well, or maybe only in challenge/co-op levels. If you weren't attacking from a position of strength it was really easy to get overwhelmed by the enemies and die.
styl3s
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Played a few hours on my friends PC earlier and really, really enjoyed it. I am glad they didn't go back to the old SC and did a mix like with the rest and don't punish people who are absolutely awful at stealth games.
My biggest complaint is kind of an absurd one. It's the tiny ears. Why is his ears so small? I don't know why it bugs me so much but whenever i see the guys ears i just roll my eyes and yell THIS IS SILLY. Also, i actually like Eric Johnson as Sam. I know a lot of people are upset that Michael Ironside isn't voicing but much like the MGS franchise i am not THAT invested to care about the change. I welcome it.
My biggest complaint is kind of an absurd one. It's the tiny ears. Why is his ears so small? I don't know why it bugs me so much but whenever i see the guys ears i just roll my eyes and yell THIS IS SILLY. Also, i actually like Eric Johnson as Sam. I know a lot of people are upset that Michael Ironside isn't voicing but much like the MGS franchise i am not THAT invested to care about the change. I welcome it.
MAX PAYMENT
Member
I think only Briggs has super small ears.
Briggs totally does have tiny ears. I noticed it when they first showed him.
Oddly enough, that's the way the guy looks in real life. I don't understand how it's possible but yes it looks really goofy in the game.
styl3s
Member
Yeah, that's who i am referring to.
His name slipped me. why are his ears so small?
Looks beyond goofy in the game.Oddly enough, that's the way the guy looks in real life. I don't understand how it's possible but yes it looks really goofy in the game.
Yes, it supports off-TV play. At the title screen, you're given a chance to swap between the TV and the GamePad, before pressing start to start the game.
Looks pretty good, maybe not as good as other versions, but it's fine. No screen tearing as far as I can tell, but I have occasionally noticed textures and small things popping in. Frame rate is stable except when there's a lot of activity, like enemies and gunfire and explosions, but if you play steathily it's not an issue 99% of the time. Loading times are really long though. Takes at least two minutes just to start the game. And more than a minute when you start a mission, when you finish a mission, and when you upgrade your base.
Overall I'd say it's a solid port in terms of performance. I guess the major disadvantages of the Wii U version are the lack of local co-op and online player base. If those things are important to you, you might want to re-consider. On the other hand, there are some Wii U specific features like off TV play.
legacyzero
Banned
I wanted to unlock the G36C, but its fucking DLC 
badnewsbeers
Member
Is it just me or is the character of Sam completely different now? What happened to the wise, mostly silent, mocking and vaguely funny fellow from the first three? Who is this new guy, who tries to act as though he's a smart badass but never quite achieves it? And don't even get me started on the new voice. Should have made Sam into a lambert with Ironside and made a new field character.
styl3s
Member
I don't think the graphics are even that much of a step up on the PC compared to Conviction. Granted, i wasn't playing on super maxed out everything. Some textures were muddy looking.
Also, this game has sparked a full on interested of a 24 re-watch which depresses me because it isn't on blu-ray /sadface
Played a couple of missions on the WiiU version.
Only complaints are the long load times, no offline co-op, and the occasional system lock up playing on line. Otherwise I really like the off screen play and the use of the gamepad. Things like using the screen for gadgets and looking under doors. It's little simple stuff that just adds to the game. Changing items and guns on the pad is solid too
I think the game loks solid, no tearing and barely any other hiccups. Solid port, worth it in my eyes for fans of the genre.
Only complaints are the long load times, no offline co-op, and the occasional system lock up playing on line. Otherwise I really like the off screen play and the use of the gamepad. Things like using the screen for gadgets and looking under doors. It's little simple stuff that just adds to the game. Changing items and guns on the pad is solid too
I think the game loks solid, no tearing and barely any other hiccups. Solid port, worth it in my eyes for fans of the genre.
MrCompletely
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Agree on all counts. Playing on Realistic, you have to be ready to execute any given moment, which makes getting the KO's to build up your executes super important. It's a resource. Love the fact that you can execute non-lethally (oxymoron?). ultimately the game balances methodical and spontaneous really well.
TheRedSnifit
Member
Someone probably smushed it with the conveyor belt :0
Oh man, I love that area. It's basically one giant sandbox. You just have to get from one end of the hall to the other, and how you do it is totally flexible. There's all sorts of furniture and constructs to climb and hide and move in between, and plenty of enemies chatting and patrolling along the way. I'm gonna upgrade my sniper rifle and play it again
legacyzero
Banned
Are there no flashlights in Blacklist mode?
Unless you can equip them in a custom class, as there aren't any in the default classes, no. I'll play 2v2 (wish more people had mics dammit) all day but I'll only touch blacklist every now and then.
You better believe I extracted after the first 5 rounds. Was kind of tough solo.
Was pretty cool how the AI was back to back sniffing me out at one point. Couldn't sneak up on them.
Was pretty cool how the AI was back to back sniffing me out at one point. Couldn't sneak up on them.
I agree that blacklist doesn't look so hot. I'm on 360 and I'm pretty sure Conviction impressed me more graphically.
Maximilian Kolbe
Member
Just bought PC version but can't find anyone online in SvM or coop
Anyone have same issue?
Anyone have same issue?
Nope. I just got done playing some SvM like 5 mins ago.
I think the game actually looks pretty good. But I did come to it straight off a Chaos Theory playthrough.
MAX PAYMENT
Member
legacyzero
Banned
Nope. Played for half the night last night. Never an issue.
Schnozberry
Member
Online co-op works pretty slick, thankfully. And the slowdown on the Wii U version is a lot less frequent and distracting than the awful screen tearing on my friend's 360 copy. I also didn't have much trouble finding online matches yesterday evening, but clearly the difference in install base is going to make for a smaller community.
Your call, of course, but I just thought I'd give a different perspective.