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Queen of Hunting
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Hmmmm looks like Luke is standing beside a gravestone if u look closely at end on the long shot before he turns around
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[SPOILERS] Star Wars: The Force Awakens (Thread #3) - That's Not How the Force Works
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Cross-Section
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Has there been any talk of the brief flash of a massive structure (maybe a temple) in the background of the post-massacre bit of Rey's vision? Noticed it at a screening yesterday.
WadiumArcadium
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Driver's delivery of "I killed him" is hilarious.
Well the script revealed the guy Kylo killed was some kind of clan leader. Probably some kind of base for the clan. Whoever they are.
By now it's probably safe to say there's "been talk" of every single frame of that movie lol.
Cross-Section
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True enough; I'm actually surprised that, for as many times as I've seen the movie (5), I'm still spotting stuff I hadn't previously noticed.
Also I can personally confirm that the IMAX sound mix is the superior mix; the SFX doesn't drown out the score as much, but nevertheless has a bit of added 'oomph' to it (likely in the use of the bass) that lends to a far more balanced experience.
I didn't say "accept gender inequality", I said "accept that A New Hope was made in 1977 and reflects a different time in society". The stories may take place in the same universe but out of universe, the films are still going to reflect the society of the time. Such as TFA.
bigwinnerx
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SNL was pretty good and Driver did really well. Saw ratings (outside of Trump) were the highest in 2 years.
Count Dookkake
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excelsiorlef
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And what about 1999-2005? Lucas got worse with time not better.
Which is relevant how?
This has been my experience as well. Going again soon.
The Librarian
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1) Not all of those people were military.
2) Accepting doesn't mean I still have to like it.
3) If it was a strictly a product of the age, why wasn't the PT any better in this regard?
I'm sorry if I came off as contrary or something, I'm on your side. I never meant to imply that you have to like it or should like it. I don't. I personally always wanted Lucas to go back and throw in more women and non-white guys and aliens in the backgrounds during Rebel Alliance scenes in his never-ending re-edits (since I'm one of those people who doesn't mind most of his changes), or reintroduce those female pilots who got cut from Endor. I just thought it was a strange question because, yes, it's totally believable that a movie by a white guy from 40 years ago would have a blind spot to gender or other non-majority representation. The PT is much more diverse, but it's not more diverse in the major parts (the primary characters) and I can only assume that's because George Lucas was in charge and he, being the same person, continues to have a blind spot for some things even if he doesn't for other things.
Welp, Star Wars date didn't go well in the end. "I'm a bit complicated", said the lady. Oh well, not like there was a huge chemistry between us.
On the plus side, I liked TFA more than I did the first time. I already liked it the first time, but once you know it's gonna be super fast-paced with lots of retreads, you can appreciate the movie more.
It's the anti-prequel in that sense: with the prequels, once you get past the novel elements, you notice the fact that they're just poorly-made movies at their core. With this, once you go past the boring/lazy retreads, you realize there's a really good movie underneath.
On the plus side, I liked TFA more than I did the first time. I already liked it the first time, but once you know it's gonna be super fast-paced with lots of retreads, you can appreciate the movie more.
It's the anti-prequel in that sense: with the prequels, once you get past the novel elements, you notice the fact that they're just poorly-made movies at their core. With this, once you go past the boring/lazy retreads, you realize there's a really good movie underneath.
Etrian Oddity
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She may as well have been for how irrelevant she wound up being. Can't believe they axed her off screen like that.
WadiumArcadium
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We haven't seen the last of her, though I'd be lying if I said I wasn't disappointed with her role.
DrForester
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No way is she dead.
The Librarian
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They have so many places they can take Phasma.
DiipuSurotu
Banned
What if Phasma is dead, but Kylo decides to launch a new clonetrooper program with Phasma as the template.
Star Wars Episode VIII: Everyone was Gwendoline Christie
Count Dookkake
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The Librarian
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I want a female-female friendship!!!!!!
Why?
She's just as useless as all of the other stormtroopers but is given, for some reason, more authority.
She's a bank employee who's too afraid or stupid to press the panic button.
If she isn't dead the next film should start with her execution.
WadiumArcadium
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Well no one should know that it was her that let the shield down. Without the detonators Chewie and Han set, its destruction wouldn't have been possible anyway. There's no reason she couldn't crawl back to the First Order.
The bounty hunter twist could be interesting, but I'd be worried they'd go the Boba Fett route.
I've mentioned this a lot before, but I like the idea of a disgraced-drunkard captain Phasma similar to Commodore Norrington in the Pirates of the Carribean films.
It'd make for a hilarious scene if they revisit Maz's cantina and she's there wasting away her sorrows. Then she sees Finn and is like "YOU."
It'd make for a hilarious scene if they revisit Maz's cantina and she's there wasting away her sorrows. Then she sees Finn and is like "YOU."
WadiumArcadium
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I'm pretty sure they'll make use of that Finn Phasma rivalry in VIII and/or IX.
DiipuSurotu
Banned
In Ep IX Finn and Phasma will have to team up to defeat TR-8R.
The Librarian
Banned
Finn/Phasma
When VII was announced, I was half expecting them to already break opening crawl tradition. Do a Star Trek 09 prologue then BAM opening crawl.
Definitely still would've been blasphemous though.
Lifejumper
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Rogue one shouldnt have a opening crawl tho.
Trigonometrize.
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Woah woah woah let's not get ahead of ourselves. Luke is GOAT.
This makes me think of the Turks in FFVII. Just going off and on in how much they give a shit. They take breaks even when the audience is watching.
demosthenes
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I hope it doesn't.
OricWindstar
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They should have the title fade in and out similar to how Tartakovsky's Clone Wars did. If I remember correctly, the teaser they showed already was pretty much the same.
JaseMath
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They absolutely should've made Phasma the storm trooper with the baton; missed opportunity if there ever was one. Build the mystique of the character while, at the same time, making her a legit force to be reckoned with.
fastford58
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The Mary Sue truthers should be happy about how Phasma played out.
I think she will have a larger role next movie.
I mean, if they really wanna keep the fanfare, they can do it like Battlefront. Short, sweet, and nothing more.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zCCPTjKAEdo
Still more appropriate after a prologue scene though.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zCCPTjKAEdo
Still more appropriate after a prologue scene though.
DiipuSurotu
Banned
The Clone Wars movie had a narrator voiceover instead of an opening crawl:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zkKxJQx81do
In my head I figured Phasma would be expelled from the First Order for her part in lowering the shields and would go all bounty hunter after Finn, perhaps a modified version of the stormtrooper armour.
Id love to see her mercilessly hunting down the
tr8tor
Id love to see her mercilessly hunting down the
The Librarian
Banned
Nah. Rey has officially dethroned him.Woah woah woah let's not get ahead of ourselves. Luke is GOAT.
"No! No! No! The one I'm pointing to! No!"
"I bypassed the compressor!"
"For my family. They'll come back. One day."
Plus Daisy is a far better actor than Hammill ever was.
perhaps there's more to the story...
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Deleted member 47027
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Phasma is definitely being set up to be a chief rival for Finn going forward. He got the drop on her last time, and she's going to be back with an axe to grind.
I think they're next meet up should be fun and tense. I also don't think she's remaining a member of the First Order. I can see her being disgraced and setting off on her own, probably a merc for hire while she tracks down Finn for vengeance. Basically Boba Fett, without the getting paid to bring Finn down. I imagine part of Finn's adventure in episode 8 will be trying to accomplish whatever goal he's trying to accomplish, while being dogged by Phasma.
Don't get the hate for her just because she didn't have a huge part in this movie. She wasn't even a secondary character, just a small part. Her awesome design drew attention to her, but she was never going to be a primary antagonist in this first movie due to the limited screen time for secondary character development (like Poe).
I think they're next meet up should be fun and tense. I also don't think she's remaining a member of the First Order. I can see her being disgraced and setting off on her own, probably a merc for hire while she tracks down Finn for vengeance. Basically Boba Fett, without the getting paid to bring Finn down. I imagine part of Finn's adventure in episode 8 will be trying to accomplish whatever goal he's trying to accomplish, while being dogged by Phasma.
Don't get the hate for her just because she didn't have a huge part in this movie. She wasn't even a secondary character, just a small part. Her awesome design drew attention to her, but she was never going to be a primary antagonist in this first movie due to the limited screen time for secondary character development (like Poe).
WadiumArcadium
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I still prefer Luke to Rey as a protagonist, though I expect that'll change by the end of the trilogy.
WadiumArcadium
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Ridley was definitely superior to Hamill in the original, but I don't think she's met some of his high's in Empire or Jedi yet. Undeniably a fantastic choice for Rey though. All the casting was spot on.
The Librarian
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She already got some development in TFA!
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