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[SPOILERS] Star Wars: The Force Awakens (Thread #3) - That's Not How the Force Works
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This was good.
It's been 30 years. Shit happened.
(There's also a C3PO comic coming out that will answer this)
The Librarian
Banned
"The female part's a little underwritten."
YA DONT SAY. HM. I WONDER WHY THEY WERE ABLE TO TURN THIS INTO A JOKE
oh
Jack The Nipper
Banned
He's definitely stretching this to create an argument he doesn't need.
BreezyLimbo
Banned
BreezyLimbo
Banned
did she
did she cry?
yes
Even though it was my third time seeing it, I teared up as well. THE WAY HE TOUCHES HIS FACE AS HE'S FALLING DOWN MAN. FUCK
The old EU. Dude endorsed torture.
BreezyLimbo
Banned
It's a well done scene. You think Rens going to do a heel face turn, but he does a heel face heel turn.
the old EU didn't understand Luke either then >.<
Luke is the Kylo Ren of the OT. Everyone wants him to be a Badass Motherfucker but nah that's not his style.
Was that ever explained by Lucas or something? That line never made sense to me.
What didnt you understand? The high hand has the one who is about to win.
Now it makes sense.
Blue Ninja
Member
That "high ground"-line feels like it was a reference to something ealier that got cut. As it stands it just didn't make sense, especially considering they were climbing collapsing towers and shit a few minutes beforehand.
Its an experiment to determine if the viewer is able to understand what a "joke" is
I think 3P0 mentions that he doesn't like it, but it was never explained. Did his silver leg in the OT need to be explained? It really doesn't matter.
TAJ
Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that.
I haven't been paying attention to this thread so I don't know if it's been mentioned, but the February issue of American Cinematographer is entirely dedicated to TFA and some copies are in the wild already.
It's Reyn Time!
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Having the high ground is usually a strategic advantage. In warfare, claiming the high ground is nearly always a strategic advantage. In the context of a fight you're making the enemy have to climb up to get you ('fighting an uphill battle' being an expression of difficulty) and even then it's harder to actually reach important parts of an enemy above you, while the defender gets to chop freely at your head while only having to defend their lower extremities.
However, as you said, it's completely meaningless in the context of two prescient superhumans who can move at super speed, jump 50 feet straight up or just, you know, approach slightly from the side.
DerZuhälter
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heliosRAzi
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TipsyArchmage
Neo Member
If Rey is really Skywalker, and we all know that she very likely is. Skywalkers' standards are deteriorating rapidly. They left Leia with royalty, Luke with prosperous farmers and Rey.... in the junkyard. In just two generations they hit rock bottom with all abandoning own kids business, didn't they?
Luke for sure won't win any Dad of the Year prize if that's the case.
or Master (tutor) of the Year prize, if you think about it
I think that goes back to the wrong basis of the Jedi order. You would think someone would notice by now that whenever you have too many (powerful) good guys or too many (powerful) bad guys the Force just slaps you back in the search for equilibrium.
Worked fine for him, why should he hide his daughter, too when there is a dark jedi running around and doing stuff?
I think it's interesting that they left Rey with Unkar Plott. It implies some serious trust on the part of Rey's parents. Maybe Unkar was a friend of sorts, and he was more than likely only expecting to be watching over Rey for a short period of time, not 12 years. Eventually, he got resentful of having to babysit this girl for so long, and made her work for him, and then scammed her out of her proper portions, probably under the justification that she's paying off her debt to him.
I'm actually impressed that despite her upbringing with Plott (she lived with him during her formative years), that she turned out to be such a good, kind person. I mean, in between all of the meanness, was Unkar teaching her shit like "Share and share alike...but you're still only getting one half portion."?
Rey learned to fight and scavenge and survive on Jakku, but she apparently didn't fall into a dog eat dog mentality while doing it. It's interesting. I get how Luke could become a nice kid, because his aunt and uncle weren't asshats. Either Plott was always an asshat, or he became one after Rey wore out her welcome in the longest babysitting job ever.
I'm actually impressed that despite her upbringing with Plott (she lived with him during her formative years), that she turned out to be such a good, kind person. I mean, in between all of the meanness, was Unkar teaching her shit like "Share and share alike...but you're still only getting one half portion."?
Rey learned to fight and scavenge and survive on Jakku, but she apparently didn't fall into a dog eat dog mentality while doing it. It's interesting. I get how Luke could become a nice kid, because his aunt and uncle weren't asshats. Either Plott was always an asshat, or he became one after Rey wore out her welcome in the longest babysitting job ever.
The way Unkar handles the little girl in Rey's vision, grabbing and pulling her like a prisoner suggest anything but a friend. More like a ransom or a guarantee.
Or a sale.
Next film opens with Rey blowing up from the bomb implanted in her
Imagine the scenes in here if Rey doesnt make it 5 mins into ep8 and is out of the rest of the trilogy.
I think it's almost more likely that Unkar was paid to take on Rey, and he sees her more as a burden then anything else.
If this is the case then the fact he hasnt killed her/starved her/let her die implies that someone is coming back, because he certainly isnt keeping her around out of love.
Maybe its a pay a bit now a bit when shes older deal
Uhm, wasn't that the voice of Max von Sydows character? As in, it was his character holding Rey as the ship flew away?
Well he may be an asshole, but I don't think he's an evil asshole. I don't think he'd kill or let a young child starve to death. If he was indeed paid to look after her, then he was still paid to do a job so I'd imagine he'd see the job through even if he finds it an annoyance.
No it was 100% Unkar, you can see his hand
Thats not to say Max wasnt watching her from afar....
Familienoberhauptvogel
Banned
If Kylo were older it could have been argued that Luke hid her but as that isn't the case of her being a Skywalker gets much tougher.
She's pretty much the most powerful Jedi we've seen though if you compare the trilogies, which speaks for her being a Skywalker or at least being created by Plageius or something.
She's pretty much the most powerful Jedi we've seen though if you compare the trilogies, which speaks for her being a Skywalker or at least being created by Plageius or something.
Yes, she's confirmed to be a Force user. There was a cut scene where she uses the Force to help Han and Chewie during the attack on her temple.
What did she do?
Well, there's this theory.
http://i.imgur.com/UqELfwa.jpg
Edit:
Dang, that's big! Um, there's a theory that she's a reincarnated Anakin. See the link. :lol
I don't think they're go the reincarnation route. Both because it's weird and I think they want tell a more relatable story, and because while the prequels are canon a lot of that canon is simply bad writing. They can move on from it, like they did with TFA.
I like how in this film, they framed the events of the OT as being mythic - few witnessed it, stories changed over time, different factions telling different versions. The events of the PT are all but forgotten completely, as they should be.
I like how in this film, they framed the events of the OT as being mythic - few witnessed it, stories changed over time, different factions telling different versions. The events of the PT are all but forgotten completely, as they should be.
Familienoberhauptvogel
Banned
Yeah I don't buy that.
They obviously liked the twist of making Kylo not Rey end up as Han and Leia's kid instead so I expect a similar reveal for her.
That theory would take like half a movie to explain and still leave the audience with a "what?"
They obviously liked the twist of making Kylo not Rey end up as Han and Leia's kid instead so I expect a similar reveal for her.
That theory would take like half a movie to explain and still leave the audience with a "what?"
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