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[firehawk12]

We've already gone through the 'abuse by peers and authority figures' stage, which is very much like Cinderella, but Cinderella was resolved by the deus ex machina Fairy Godmother and none of the characters changed a whit during the story by virtue of it being a fairytale. What you're describing is a most likely outcome for the series, but not very much like Cinderella at all when all is said and done.

Although, if you want to be cheeky, you could say that Ohana's mom could end up playing the fairy godmother role in the story. But the metaphor is as stretched thin as it can be anyway. :lol

I've never seen Ristorante Paradiso, so I'm afraid that part of the comparison is lost on me.

You might as well watch it, since it's guuuuuud. Unlike, say, Seikon no Breast Milk 2!

I've never seen Maison Ikkoku, but it might be comparable to that as well? Insomuch as it takes place in a communal living space anyway.

Talking about when

Spoiler

Ohana had a nosebleed when talking to her mother and her mother's fiance.

Hrm. I don't remember that at all!

 

[zeroshiki]

So I realize this has jack to do with Animu but whatever, I got the recommendation from this thread anyways.

I watched Hanamizuki yesterday.

I liked it. Its the bog standard Japanese Romance but it did its schtick well. Its standard but I like that it doesn't do the whole misunderstanding shit that's common to shoujo. We've got 2 people chasing their dreams that naturally lead away from each other and through that plus the general asshole-ness of circumstance, move them further apart. Its sad and you sorta feel for the characters because even if they want to be together, there's nothing they can do.

M_Night in this thread says that it reminds him of 5cm/s and I guess I could see it in the theme of separation and all the vista shots.

So, yeah, I feel like Jex with the bloggin. Its an ok movie. If you're in the mood for some sappy romance, go and watch it.

To tie this into anime/manga somehow, the main guy played Nakatsu in the live action Hanakimi. The main girl played one of the students in live action Dragonzakura.

 

[firehawk12]

Dat cloud.

 

[Orin GA]

Kag, you may want to try Kaiji S2

http://www.ntv.co.jp/kaiji_hakairoku/

And have you ever watched Uninhabited Planet Survive! You might like it.

 

[Geneijin]

Hrm. I don't remember that at all!

I just hope it's only one of those classy moe moments they said they were doing, but it's nagging me like it could be a potential problem later.

 

[firehawk12]

http://i.imgur.com/eMCPX.jpg[IMG]

I just hope it's only one of those classy moe moments they said they were doing, but it's nagging me like it could be a potential problem later.[/QUOTE]
Ahhh. You know, you might be right. I could see them going all melodrama with her needing some kind of emergency surgery and whatnot... and then the three generations of the family get together and have a nice therapeutic cry.

 

[zeroshiki]

Damn you all. I can't watch Iroha yet. I'm getting excited with all the screen grabs and discussion though

 

[Solune]

Damn you all. I can't watch Iroha yet. I'm getting excited with all the screen grabs and discussion though

It's ok to watch sex hair.

 

[Geneijin]

Ahhh. You know, you might be right. I could see them going all melodrama with her needing some kind of emergency surgery and whatnot... and then the three generations of the family get together and have a nice therapeutic cry.

That's what I'm afraid of.

Damn you all. I can't watch Iroha yet. I'm getting excited with all the screen grabs and discussion though

Haven't seen the first episode yet? My bad.

But I'll post these anyway of Ohana.

http://i.imgur.com/rbC8n.gif
http://i.imgur.com/RFqoW.gif
http://i.imgur.com/RTIB8.gif
http://i.imgur.com/BoDe0.gif

 

[duckroll]

There should be a dramatic plot twist in ep13 where Ohana dies. And the rest of the series will be about the other characters getting on with their lives without her around.

 

[Infinite Justice]

Iroha

Nice seeing her trying to deal with this and i see what Jexhius was saying (using her hotblooded shounen passion to deal with these odds).

Spoiler

Tooru's constant negative reinforcment and Ohana's stylin was too much in this ep for Minko to handle




And i guess the guy is a ero book author then?

 

[zeroshiki]

That's what I'm afraid of.


Haven't seen the first episode yet? My bad.

But I'll post these anyway of Ohana.

http://i.imgur.com/rbC8n.gif
http://i.imgur.com/RFqoW.gif
http://i.imgur.com/RTIB8.gif
http://i.imgur.com/BoDe0.gif

I saw the first episode and loved it. I was more talking about episode 2 since it came out while I was asleep and I can't get to it now and need to wait until later before I can watch.

 

[firehawk12]

There should be a dramatic plot twist in ep13 where Ohana dies. And the rest of the series will be about the other characters getting on with their lives without her around.

I suppose then the show could enter mono no aware mode. :lol

 

[jman2050]

There should be a dramatic plot twist in ep13 where Ohana dies. And the rest of the series will be about the other characters getting on with their lives without her around.

Didn't work for 8 Simple Rules, won't work for this show.

Spoiler

Yes I know that wasn't exactly in their control.

 

[Geneijin]

I saw the first episode and loved it. I was more talking about episode 2 since it came out while I was asleep and I can't get to it now and need to wait until later before I can watch.

The screen grab on this page was from Episode 1. I haven't seen Episode 2 yet either.

 

[firehawk12]

Didn't work for 8 Simple Rules, won't work for this show.

Spoiler

Yes I know that wasn't exactly in their control.

Tamiyura took this premise and made it into a 4 episode OVA anyway.

 

[7Th]

All this talk of Ohana dying reminds me of Osamu Kobayashi's Natsu no Sora. Anyone here watched that? If you did, you will know exactly what I am talking about.

 

[Geneijin]

There should be a dramatic plot twist in ep13 where Ohana dies. And the rest of the series will be about the other characters getting on with their lives without her around.

Bury that idea right now duckroll.

 

[jman2050]

Toradora 19 - So i guess I'm finally getting to the heavy "melodrama" portion of the series, i am surprised that there hasn't been much love triangle angst for this type of show, although judging from those last few minutes, i can see it going in that direction for a bit.

There is a triangle but... well it's kind of different from how they normally handle a situation like this.

 

[firehawk12]

Bury that idea right now duckroll.

What if it turns out she was a ghost all along and this is a show about the grandmother trying to reconnect with the mother through Ohana's death!

 

[7Th]

Pros:
If Ohana dies, she won't be wondering what the fuck she is doing every 3 minutes.

Cons:
Chiaki Omigawa will upgraded to a protagonist role.

Cons overwhelm the pros. Killing Ohana is discarded.

 

[Hellsing321]

All this talk of Ohana dying reminds me of Osamu Kobayashi's Natsu no Sora. Anyone here watched that? If you did, you will know exactly what I am talking about.

I never finished it but I remember liking it a lot. I don't really know why I didn't finish it.

 

[firehawk12]

Pros:
If Ohana dies, she won't be wondering what the fuck she is doing every 3 minutes.

Cons:
Chiaki Omigawa will upgraded to a protagonist role.

Hey, that shy girl could step up to the plate!

 

[Infinite Justice]

Hey, that shy girl could step up to the plate!

but who is gonna break her out of her shell?

 

[duckroll]

Pros:
If Ohana dies, she won't be wondering what the fuck she is doing every 3 minutes.

Cons:
Chiaki Omigawa will upgraded to a protagonist role.

Cons overwhelm the pros. Killing Ohana is discarded.

What if in episode 13, there is a yakuza attack on the onsen, and all the girls are killed in the process? Then the remaining 13 episodes is a samurai revenge tale where the grandmother takes his prized family blade out from storage, and sets out on a bloodbath of vengeance.

 

[Risette]

Cons:
Chiaki Omigawa will upgraded to a protagonist role.

This isn't a con

 

[duckroll]

This isn't a con

You're right, it's not just a "con" but a deal breaker Practically everyone would stop watching the show at that point.

 

[jman2050]

What if in episode 13, there is a yakuza attack on the onsen, and all the girls are killed in the process? Then the remaining 13 episodes is a samurai revenge tale where the grandmother takes his prized family blade out from storage, and sets out on a bloodbath of vengeance.

That would instantly make me far far more interested in the show.

 

[Risette]

You're right, it's not just a "con" but a deal breaker Practically everyone would stop watching the show at that point.

It would make me anticipate each episode even more! I love her voice

 

[zeroshiki]

What if in episode 13, there is a yakuza attack on the onsen, and all the girls are killed in the process? Then the remaining 13 episodes is a samurai revenge tale where the grandmother takes his prized family blade out from storage, and sets out on a bloodbath of vengeance.

This reminds me of Kurosawa's High and Low. Not the actual plot. Just the tonal and genre shift in the middle.

 

[flawfuls]

Someone should make an official thread for Iroha, it certainly deserves one and it seems like it might actually generate enough discussion to warrant one

I never finished it but I remember liking it a lot. I don't really know why I didn't finish it.

Yeah me too. I've always intended to go back to it, but I keep forgetting it exists.

 

[firehawk12]

It would make me anticipate each episode even more! I love her voice

This is a logically impossible statement.

 

[Branduil]

Blooming Flowers ABC 02

I don't think it's been said enough what a horrible person her mother is. I mean it's bad enough the stuff she taught her daughter by her actions, but she explicitly teaches her poisonous philosophy too her as well.

Another very good episode, the character interactions are just so solidly written compared to the usual stuff.

 

[Geneijin]

What if it turns out she was a ghost all along and this is a show about the grandmother trying to reconnect with the mother through Ohana's death!

I was thinking more along the lines of a 3-way custody battle.

Edit: Hitokage is a harbinger of bad news. I saw Evilore's thread just now ;(

 

[duckroll]

Blooming Flowers ABC 02

I don't think it's been said enough what a horrible person her mother is. I mean it's bad enough the stuff she taught her daughter by her actions, but she explicitly teaches her poisonous philosophy too her as well.

Another very good episode, the character interactions are just so solidly written compared to the usual stuff.

 

[Orin GA]

Woah there. You guys wanna put down the the death flags until we are at least halfway thru

 

[zeroshiki]

Woah there. You guys wanna put down the the death flags until we are at least halfway thru

No. The mother needs to die. There is no redemption to her.

 

[Branduil]

I hope in the next episode we find out she's killed multiple men, like a black widow.

 

[hosannainexcelsis]

What if in episode 13, there is a yakuza attack on the onsen, and all the girls are killed in the process? Then the remaining 13 episodes is a samurai revenge tale where the grandmother takes his prized family blade out from storage, and sets out on a bloodbath of vengeance.

Freudian slip? I could totally see the grandmother doing that though.

 

[shintoki]

Tiger and Bunny has been 2/2... I'm scared

 

[firehawk12]

You're giving me KEY flashbacks with the ghost girl talk, man. That's not nice!

It turns out Ohana is a tree!

Hey, I never volunteered myself to be the one to watch Seikon no Qwaser II! I was trying to suggest that someone else take that role. >_> <_< >_<

Maison Ikkoku is also guuuuud, you should watch it sometime. Damn, Ristorante Paradiso is only 11 episodes and it's about cooking. I'll be on it, stat.

Yeah, Maison on the other hand is 50 or 100 episodes, so...

(Also watch Antique Bakery, while you're at it!)

I was thinking more along the lines of a 3-way custody battle.

That's so mundane though!
And 3-way? Is daddy still around? I can't remember.

Edit: Hitokage is a harbinger of bad news. I saw Evilore's thread just now ;(

How do I convert my avatar into a non-animated one? :lol
At least we all have GAF hosting now.

 

[Geneijin]

There's going to be more taunting from Ohana's mother in Episode 2? That cellphone picture sent to Ohana wasn't enough already? Oh joy...

You're giving me KEY flashbacks with the ghost girl talk, man. That's not nice!

More Key, why not?

 

[duckroll]

Freudian slip? I could totally see the grandmother doing that though.

Damnit, now you've ruined the ep25 plot twist.

 

[jman2050]

Let us mourn the death of Branduil's Makoto avatar.

A moment of silence...

 

[hosannainexcelsis]

No. The mother needs to die. There is no redemption to her.

She's the lousiest mother I've seen without being actively abusive.

 

[7Th]

First trailer for Kenji Kamiyama's new movie: Xi AVANT.

 

[zeroshiki]

Let us mourn the death of Branduil's Makoto avatar.

A moment of silence...

Your avatar is still Kyubey to me btw.

 

[Branduil]

She's the lousiest mother I've seen without being actively abusive.

Her own mom has that part covered. Between the two of them Ohana has the worst parent figures of any child who wasn't actively molested!

 

[trejo]

Hanasaku Iroha 2

Still the best show this season. Ohana is so damn adorable and of course it helps that she's also a teensy bit crazy and unpredictable due to her mom's messed up upbringing. So good.

 

[jman2050]

Your avatar is still Kyubey to me btw.

Unnamed mod changed it back so I'm good.