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Spring Anime 2012 II | Welcome Home Eureka
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Hey man, Bondage Mansion and Office Affairs are quality works.
PdotMichael
Banned
I would take the hyperbole not too serious.
It's Chihayafuru all over again
even Chihaya is the better anime and manga
Angel Beats 6
Liked the brief scenes with Angel and lineart.
Hinata's initial comment to Otonashi in the rain was bizarrely hilarious too for how out of place it was. Speaking of Otonashi, he sure sacked up this ep.
Liked the brief scenes with Angel and lineart.
Carnage was a bit out there as it a departure from the cartoon violence depicted up until now. Guess that's an easy way to sell a new antagonist. It shouldn't have mattered since they can't die but whatever.
Hinata's initial comment to Otonashi in the rain was bizarrely hilarious too for how out of place it was. Speaking of Otonashi, he sure sacked up this ep.
Storyboarding the beauty that is Denpa Onna can be considered nothing but a privilege.
Oh when you see how the next episode starts...
Oh when you see how the next episode starts...
Inside joke.
chickdigger802
Banned
Well I wasn't planning on watching another tonight but you've convinced me.
lol...Wait until you get to R.
PdotMichael
Banned
Femmeworth
Banned
Damn. Who was the target demographic for Sailor Moon?
That's why I'm quitting after Seven's episode which is next, I've reached my limit with this Kakeru and Suguru horse shit.
Or at least I'd like to think that I'm going to bail.
Crash Station
Member
I've seen door knobs on plenty of public bathrooms.
Girls.Damn. Who was the target demographic for Sailor Moon?
Even girls want to look at dat ass.
We are all little girls at heart.
Not everyone has hangups over the human form.
I learn something new about myself everyday.
hyouka - 01
The waterdrop effects in the OP are horrible.
Something about the way Chitanda is drawn throws me off--she just looks odd. Her figure, her face (especially from the side), her eyes. Otherwise the show looks impeccable. Dull otherwise. Hopefully I'll start caring about everything else in the upcoming episodes.
The cast is giving me Clannad vibes. Dunno if that's a good thing.
Needed more whores and rape.
The waterdrop effects in the OP are horrible.
Something about the way Chitanda is drawn throws me off--she just looks odd. Her figure, her face (especially from the side), her eyes. Otherwise the show looks impeccable. Dull otherwise. Hopefully I'll start caring about everything else in the upcoming episodes.
The cast is giving me Clannad vibes. Dunno if that's a good thing.
Needed more whores and rape.
You mean besides the fact that the MC and his bro are voiced by the same guys who voiced Tomoya and Sunohara?
Angel Beats 7
I wholeheartedly approve of Naoi using hypnosis for trolling and comedy. I still think the flashback/returned memory scenes are the worst though. I have a hard time paying attention to them as they're overly serious., Otonashi's story was a snore.
Second half was much better as it was back to everyone being either a moron or jerkass.
I wholeheartedly approve of Naoi using hypnosis for trolling and comedy. I still think the flashback/returned memory scenes are the worst though. I have a hard time paying attention to them as they're overly serious., Otonashi's story was a snore.
Second half was much better as it was back to everyone being either a moron or jerkass.
Femmeworth
Banned
Whoever animated that sequence sure had a hangup over her butt. *rimshot*
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Even with different VAs the dynamic would be too noticeable to miss, I think. Eru also annoys me. Something about the voice. Getting cockroach vibes from her.
I searched for a pic of Okazaki sitting by the window as Sunohara talks to him, but it was taking too long.
Jex
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It almost feels like I am writing the whole show off after one awkward episode, which feels a little unfair to the guy. It's certainly worth talking about the background of the director in reference to how impressive the first three episodes were.
It's interesting that the director decided to make that the first three episodes should all have a particular tone, one different from the source material. This seems to imply that he, or someone that he's working with, has an ability not just to adapt a manga conventionally but to see the potential that a manga might have if the same material was framed differently.
There's been talk about the strength of the KyoAni studio brand, and how their animators and staff make the shows they create appealing and popular. But is that really true? I think we've had this conversation before on the thread, but I'll like to reopen the discussion and invite for more contributions from people who might know more about specific franchises to give views.
Kyoto Animation has produced the following works: Munto, Full Metal Panic, Air, Kanon, Clannad, Haruhi, Lucky Star, K-On, Nichijou, and Hyouka. Of all these works, the only original series is Munto. This franchise is not very successful at all. Of the other works, the most popular ones were already popular works before they were adapted. The fact that they got good adaptations simply helped make them even more popular than ever.
It seems to me that KyoAni is a studio where the success of their output doesn't really come from the strength of their studio brand, but rather the benefit of the marriage between the strengths of their production values along wit the appeal of certain specific types of content they choose to adapt. This can clearly be seen in the sense that the works which already appeal to the audiences who go for cute virtual girlfriend stuff end up being their most popular works. On the other hand, the studio has not shown that their "brand name" really extends to being able to sell a ton of anything outside of that genre.
Can we really say that Kyoto Animation is a strong studio brand if people are really only mostly interested in a specific type of content from them, rather than actually supporting and following the studio to see what the staff can do with different types of material?
Discuss!
Kyoto Animation has produced the following works: Munto, Full Metal Panic, Air, Kanon, Clannad, Haruhi, Lucky Star, K-On, Nichijou, and Hyouka. Of all these works, the only original series is Munto. This franchise is not very successful at all. Of the other works, the most popular ones were already popular works before they were adapted. The fact that they got good adaptations simply helped make them even more popular than ever.
It seems to me that KyoAni is a studio where the success of their output doesn't really come from the strength of their studio brand, but rather the benefit of the marriage between the strengths of their production values along wit the appeal of certain specific types of content they choose to adapt. This can clearly be seen in the sense that the works which already appeal to the audiences who go for cute virtual girlfriend stuff end up being their most popular works. On the other hand, the studio has not shown that their "brand name" really extends to being able to sell a ton of anything outside of that genre.
Can we really say that Kyoto Animation is a strong studio brand if people are really only mostly interested in a specific type of content from them, rather than actually supporting and following the studio to see what the staff can do with different types of material?
Sales stats for Kyoto Animation works said:
Discuss!
Don't just assume that Sankarea will stay the same tone as it is in episode 4... but yes he did change the tone for the opening a bit.. a definite improvement.
Munto came out when they were starting up though so I don't think it's fair to compare that to the rest, yes it did get "rereleased" during Clannad AS but that was just the original OVAs with a few new episodes at the end for a new ending. So nothing major, plus it was really shit... also IIRC K-ON! wasn't that popular until the anime.. and since that is KyoAni's most popular franchise.... (just look @ the movie numbers @ the gate for K-on! compared to Haruhi, it slaughters it)
Munto came out when they were starting up though so I don't think it's fair to compare that to the rest, yes it did get "rereleased" during Clannad AS but that was just the original OVAs with a few new episodes at the end for a new ending. So nothing major, plus it was really shit... also IIRC K-ON! wasn't that popular until the anime.. and since that is KyoAni's most popular franchise.... (just look @ the movie numbers @ the gate for K-on! compared to Haruhi, it slaughters it)
I think Kyoani has convinced most regular anime watchers that they do not messed around with their projects. It's not so much as brand name as people associating Kyoani with quality, attention to detail and good production values.
I don't think they are at the point where they can just slap Kyoani on something and expect it to sell, nor do people actually believe that.
I don't think they are at the point where they can just slap Kyoani on something and expect it to sell, nor do people actually believe that.
Jex
Member
Sure, if you have a leg fetish.
And just what is wrong with having a leg fetish?
Femmeworth
Banned
It's certainly better than having a foot fetish.
Regulus Tera
Romanes Eunt Domus
Am I wrong in assuming that Bakemonogatari and Madoka did higher numbers than K-ON!?
What if I have both?
PdotMichael
Banned
still better than a teeth fetish
Is there really much brand loyalty in general when it comes to anime? I ask this because I don't really know, but it sure doesn't seem like even storied studios have names that mean much to consumers.
I'll be interested to see how Hyouka performs at retail. I would imagine it is pivotal to the direction KyoAni takes, but I just can't see it lighting the kind of spark the studio's most successful titles did.
I'll be interested to see how Hyouka performs at retail. I would imagine it is pivotal to the direction KyoAni takes, but I just can't see it lighting the kind of spark the studio's most successful titles did.
Crash Station
Member
What about a braces fetish?
Individual volumes, sure. Overall K-ON probably sold more, considering the number of releases.
Looks like it happened back in 2010, even. I doubt the BD Boxset sales for Bake changed anything.
PdotMichael
Banned
the only really bad fetishes are glasses and tsundere
A Black Falcon
Member
1) Why has there not been a second season of Lucky Star?
2) Nichijou's failure is truly tragic, and doesn't say great things about anime fans. (Not fanservicey or full of otaku humor, and apparently a comedy won't sell...)
Oh, and I do find it interesting that Air outsold Kanon. I presume it's because Kanon was a remake, so not everyone got it because there had been another version just a few years earlier, while Air, of course, was new.
Jex
Member
Unfortunately I am not familiar with many of the franchises that they've adapted into anime but just going off those sales numbers there looks to be a fairly close correlation between the popularity of the original source material and the popularity of the adaptation. I suppose the question is, would those adaptations be so popular if it wasn't for the high quality production values that KyoAni brings, e.g. would a Haruhi from a different studio have done as well? I assume not.
Was K-ON! even remotely popular before KyoAni adapted it?
Not to mention that K-ON would've slaughtered both of them combined in merchandise sales.
Not to mention that K-ON would've slaughtered both of them combined in merchandise sales.
Air was also a remake! Of the movie!
Femmeworth
Banned
Jex
Member
Speaking of racy transformations, I wonder why they decided to to add a 'panty shot' to that third Jupiter transformation.
Going by this massive sales compendium from Animesuki, I extracted the numbers for the relevant series and threw them here:
http://pastebin.com/fVVmMTMs
I don't have a particular fetish for glasses, but I don't understand how that's a negative either. Tsundere speaks for itself.
Nichijou's failings come from that it's better in either gif or a youtube clip compilation than outright buying the DVD/BD's, animegaf alone is a good example of this.
A Black Falcon
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But didn't the TV series start airing before the movie showed in theaters?
That would only be true if it wasn't one of the funniest comedy animes around, which it is...
I think KyoAni basically made K-On, yeah.
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