Ultimadrago
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("The miracle never happen." reference here)
Jex
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I'd feel bad too if I was created just so that bland harem protagnists could have sex with me. No wonder she's so emo all the time.Lololol. Poor Saber.
Come on now, it's more like 99.5%.
Behold! The work of TYPE-MOON fans and their powerlevels speculations, St. Nicholas/Rider:
「Christmas」/「珍緑」のイラスト [pixiv]
http://www.pixiv.net/member_illust.php?mode=medium&illust_id=7829109
Yeah, although I don't see how Kirei spars intellectually with Archer/Gilgamesh in a conversation when I think the later has had the dominant voice in every one we have seen, specially on episode 12; what Kirei did was only expose the situation of the participants in the Holy Grail War to later take the bait from questions Gilgamesh lied out, while this one only tried to peruse Kirei hidden (or repressed) motivations to make him be true to himself. That is why the Holy Grail intervention giving again Command Seals to Kirei was of no surprise for Gilgamesh.
The experienced on this matters Gilgamesh seemed to know, or not give importance, to the details of the Holy Grail War as he deems it as a competition already won. Saber and Kirei spark his curiosity, but for entertainment like minstrels on the court would do for him, little respect present. For Saber, he wants to crush the kind of convictions she has as a demonstration of his own rightful ways. For Kirei, he wants him to accept his divine intervention and interest, show gratitude for leading him to a path of own satisfaction, that satisfaction that Kirei seems to refuse.
Those acts, that Gilgamesh probably sees as magnanimous, encourages from him a more dominant attitude because that expected dependency on him inflates his ego, as seen with Tokiomi.
All I see from this character is a game of manipulation using the right tools to convince everyone, a dominance he seeks.
The experienced on this matters Gilgamesh seemed to know, or not give importance, to the details of the Holy Grail War as he deems it as a competition already won. Saber and Kirei spark his curiosity, but for entertainment like minstrels on the court would do for him, little respect present. For Saber, he wants to crush the kind of convictions she has as a demonstration of his own rightful ways. For Kirei, he wants him to accept his divine intervention and interest, show gratitude for leading him to a path of own satisfaction, that satisfaction that Kirei seems to refuse.
Those acts, that Gilgamesh probably sees as magnanimous, encourages from him a more dominant attitude because that expected dependency on him inflates his ego, as seen with Tokiomi.
All I see from this character is a game of manipulation using the right tools to convince everyone, a dominance he seeks.
When you read a work of fiction you enter into a contract with the author. As the audience, you agree to surrender yourself to the author's illusion. In return, you ask that the illusion be entertaining and, possibly more important, that it is maintained. Each coincidence in a story breaks the illusion a little bit, because they remind the viewer that they're being told a story, rather than allowing them to experience it viscerally, vicariously, or voyeuristically (not actually word).
Suspension of disbelief is not about realism. Suspension of disbelief is the willingness to overlook these cracks in the illusion in order to enjoy the overall product.
Suspension of disbelief is not about realism. Suspension of disbelief is the willingness to overlook these cracks in the illusion in order to enjoy the overall product.
Are we talking about NTR again?
RurouniZel
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I agree with you on the story telling of After Story. I would rank it much higher than Kanon if it weren't for the ending. It's not had or good or whatever, but what happened and why made absolutely no sense to me. I watched it three times and couldn't make sense of it. It was only when I went online and read about the VN and how the endings worked that I finally sort of understood. If not for that, the yes After Story would be on top.
Jex
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[Fate/Zero]
I wonder if the gameboard with game pieces we see at the start of the first ED is how Archer sees the Holy Grail wall. It is tinged gold, a colour that the show associates with him frequently.
Regulus Tera
Romanes Eunt Domus
We were not?
LupinFujikoike credits:
Ep2 - .357 Magnum
Script: Itsuko Sanji (??)
Episode Director: Hideki Tonokatsu
Storyboard: Gorou Hanada (???), Hideki Tonokatsu, Sayo Yamamoto
Animation Director: Takao Takegami, Masahiko Yoda, Satoru Kobayashi
Ep3 - The Lady and the Samurai
Script: Dai Sato
Episode Director: Yasuro Tsuchiya, Yoshiaki Okumura
Storyboard: Takashi Sano
Animation Director: Akira Monchi, Akane Umezu, Hiroto Kato
Ep4 - Living in Song, Living in Love
Script: Mari Okada
Episode Director: Tokio Yamauchi
Storyboard: Atsushi Takahashi
Animation Director: Hiroshi Shimizu
Ep5 - ????????
??????????????
Ep6 - Prison of Love
Script: Mari Okada
Episode Director/Storyboard: Shouko Nakamura
Ep2 - .357 Magnum
Script: Itsuko Sanji (??)
Episode Director: Hideki Tonokatsu
Storyboard: Gorou Hanada (???), Hideki Tonokatsu, Sayo Yamamoto
Animation Director: Takao Takegami, Masahiko Yoda, Satoru Kobayashi
Ep3 - The Lady and the Samurai
Script: Dai Sato
Episode Director: Yasuro Tsuchiya, Yoshiaki Okumura
Storyboard: Takashi Sano
Animation Director: Akira Monchi, Akane Umezu, Hiroto Kato
Ep4 - Living in Song, Living in Love
Script: Mari Okada
Episode Director: Tokio Yamauchi
Storyboard: Atsushi Takahashi
Animation Director: Hiroshi Shimizu
Ep5 - ????????
??????????????
Ep6 - Prison of Love
Script: Mari Okada
Episode Director/Storyboard: Shouko Nakamura
Gilgamesh doesn't see Kirei as an intellectual equal. In every conversation they have, Kotomine dances to Gil's tune. Maybe Rider is the closest person out there to someone Gil can respect (because at least he realizes that kings should make sure everyone knows they're the biggest of badasses, even if he's still a mongrel). Gilgamesh likes Kirei because he's so damn interesting. He's tortuously wrong about himself and his feelings about sin, but his wrongness is so perverse and unique that Gil can't help but tease it and try to unravel it. I mean, it's not often you come across someone so twisted that they've got themselves thinking pleasure is sinful, and that they want nothing.
Gil doesn't mind cooperating with Kirei, because there's nothing he likes more than something interesting, and Kirei's the only real entertainment he's got. So as long as Kirei stays interesting and doesn't become flagrantly disrespectful, Gil will be happy to ride along.
Gil doesn't mind cooperating with Kirei, because there's nothing he likes more than something interesting, and Kirei's the only real entertainment he's got. So as long as Kirei stays interesting and doesn't become flagrantly disrespectful, Gil will be happy to ride along.
Yeah, sipping his (Tokiomi's) wine and testing his vassals with another move. I can see the reference.
So a Jigen episode and then a Goemon episode.
That makes sense.
But Tokyo Godfathers comes off as a realistic story to me from the premise through visuals and subject matter. The setting is relatable and the characters understandable. It's about a family and their struggles on a fateful Christmas day. This grounds it as a realistic tale to me from just the first few minutes. The string of coincidences in the plot are unrealistic to me since I consider this a realistic film. The drastic change in the plot is what broke my suspension of disbelief or illusion, as you say. I expected a maintained believable plot because of the premise and I didn't get that.
Maybe I'm approaching this the wrong way and I'm just repeating the whole realism point again. Or perhaps my use of the suspension of disbelief is wrong in this instance.
I was responding to Fireminds "realism" comment actually, sorry I didn't make that clear.
Yeah Tokyo Godfathers had issues with what is believable and what isn't. While I understood the "Christmas miracle" angle, it did not feel like that, it just felt contrived.
Yeah Tokyo Godfathers had issues with what is believable and what isn't. While I understood the "Christmas miracle" angle, it did not feel like that, it just felt contrived.
Sailor moon 07
Usagi is late for school. Also, water is wet.
She stops to look at an ad for some sort of gimmick energy pill or something. Naru runs by and knocks her on the head with her bag. thank you Naru.
At school, Usagi notices Umino has a poster of the pharmacy girl. Creepy but dedicated.
He trolls the fuck out of the other girls in the room by saying theres a reason the talent scouts didnt pick them to be models. However, he points out Usagi as having potential to be the next model.
Meanwhile, pharmacy girl is outside giving autographs. This gives Jadeite a plan!~ wonder what it is?
The only problem is they are DREADFUL SINGERS. Abysmal.
They stutter their way through a terrible rendition of the theme song and Usagis brother tells them they are going to kill the cat with their singing.
they get into an argument and decide to go their separate ways as competitors. This should be good.
Usagi is watching some entertainment show involving a monkey on TV when she gets the brilliant idea to do an act with Luna. Luna objects.
Meanwhile, Naru dresses up Umino like a woman. This looks rather disturbing.
He seems to enjoy it though. Have fun, Umino.
This is a kids show still right?
This is a kids show righT?
THIS IS A KIDS SHOW RIGHT?
I dont know. Fuck it.
Luna's all FUCK THIS I QUIT.
Usagi doesn't like this and she cries and whimpers like the baby she is.
She runs away and comes across that guy who calls her dumpling-head again, who trolls her like he usually does.
He's so crafty!
I think I see a subtle change in her henshin too.
Hot.
Sailor Moon puts an end to this creepy Youma with a well placed tiara to the face.
This must be normal routine for her or something.
Usagi is late for school. Also, water is wet.
She stops to look at an ad for some sort of gimmick energy pill or something. Naru runs by and knocks her on the head with her bag. thank you Naru.
At school, Usagi notices Umino has a poster of the pharmacy girl. Creepy but dedicated.
He trolls the fuck out of the other girls in the room by saying theres a reason the talent scouts didnt pick them to be models. However, he points out Usagi as having potential to be the next model.
Meanwhile, pharmacy girl is outside giving autographs. This gives Jadeite a plan!~ wonder what it is?
Usagi and Naru have the crazy idea to become idols themselves.
They stutter their way through a terrible rendition of the theme song and Usagis brother tells them they are going to kill the cat with their singing.
they get into an argument and decide to go their separate ways as competitors. This should be good.
Usagi is watching some entertainment show involving a monkey on TV when she gets the brilliant idea to do an act with Luna. Luna objects.
Meanwhile, Naru dresses up Umino like a woman. This looks rather disturbing.
He seems to enjoy it though. Have fun, Umino.
Cut to a scene with a girl showering. Its the Idoru.
A youma appears and surprises the girl.
The Youma COVERS THE NAKED GIRL IN GOO.
The youma takes on the unconscious girl's identity.
The youma disguised as the idol is at a public gathering. She tlks to the crowd and begins emanating mind control waves.
Usagi overhears rumors of the event and decides its her best chance to become a star. Meanwhile, dancing policemen.
Usagi overhears rumors of the event and decides its her best chance to become a star. Meanwhile, dancing policemen.
She calls Usagi's bluff and tells her she's onto her shit. She tells Usagi not to bother with the talent show caravan because its distracting to her mission.
Usagi doesn't like this and she cries and whimpers like the baby she is.
She runs away and comes across that guy who calls her dumpling-head again, who trolls her like he usually does.
Elsewhere, idol girl is giving out Star passes like candy. Apparently all you have to do to become one is show up. This is not suspicious in the least to anyone.
They all show up at the talent show. Usagi realizes she dodged a bullet. Well, Luna stopped her anyway.
Jadeite begins taking their energy.
They all show up at the talent show. Usagi realizes she dodged a bullet. Well, Luna stopped her anyway.
Jadeite begins taking their energy.
Usagi witnesses this awful talent show and sees the youma responsible.
She transforms into SAilor Moon.
She transforms into SAilor Moon.
She puts an end to the show and pisses off the youma.
YOuma chases Sailor Moon around and fires goo at her.
YOuma chases Sailor Moon around and fires goo at her.
She is frozen in place and cannot move!
Naturally, Tuxedo Kamen bails her ass out. He throws a rose, which breaks the spell.
Naturally, Tuxedo Kamen bails her ass out. He throws a rose, which breaks the spell.
The spell is broken and everybody goes home.
The idol wakes up in her shower.
The idol wakes up in her shower.
Yes, I posted the actual episode details in the Lupin thread.
Lupin -> Jigen -> Goemon -> Zenigata. Looks like every character is getting personal time with Fujiko in the first 4 episodes. After that, it should be Fujiko's adventures, with cameos from the other characters from time to time.
The highlighted have me pretty exited.
I'm always sad about Kon.
I wasn't the one who brought it up. I just found the statement ironic when it's being put in the context of Perfect Blue. Then again, people consider NGN to be the most profoundly existential postmodern fiction of our generation.
Millenium Actress was excellent too.
Eden of East 1-11 (FINAL) + Movies
The best thing I did in between finishing the series and watching the first movie was read up on the NEETs and how that culture has affected Japan. Here I was in the middle of the series thinking, "This is really engaging in like a Bourne movie sort of way, I'd like to see a Hollywood adaptation of it."
Sounds like a great action-thriller premise for a country like the US. But upon further understanding of it, thematically, I figured out that it really works best with a country facing an issue like the one Japan is with NEET culture.
I really enjoyed the series. For me, it was one of those shows you get hooked on from the get-go and each episode goes by really fast because you're so invested in the plot. Perhaps the show is a bit too plot driven though. I think they could have done more with Saki and they probably bloated the show with too many characters both in the Eden of the East and Selecao groups. The series gets a heavily-leaning-to-a-4-but not-quite-there 3 out of 5. That is to say, it's good, but I think so more closure to the series would lend it some impact on the viewer, just my opinion.
Put me in the group of people who kind of, sort of enjoyed the movies. Despite the fact that they are technically movies, they're moreover expanded episodes of the series and though it felt like it went off-track a few times, I came in expecting some thematic closure. Though it wasn't the most satisfying conclusion, it was a conclusion nonetheless. I'd give both a 3 out of 5 mainly because we as the audience are still left in the dark about the other "saviors."
The best thing I did in between finishing the series and watching the first movie was read up on the NEETs and how that culture has affected Japan. Here I was in the middle of the series thinking, "This is really engaging in like a Bourne movie sort of way, I'd like to see a Hollywood adaptation of it."
A guy hands you a phone and loads of money, giving you the choice to "save" the nation in the way you see fit.
I really enjoyed the series. For me, it was one of those shows you get hooked on from the get-go and each episode goes by really fast because you're so invested in the plot. Perhaps the show is a bit too plot driven though. I think they could have done more with Saki and they probably bloated the show with too many characters both in the Eden of the East and Selecao groups. The series gets a heavily-leaning-to-a-4-but not-quite-there 3 out of 5. That is to say, it's good, but I think so more closure to the series would lend it some impact on the viewer, just my opinion.
Put me in the group of people who kind of, sort of enjoyed the movies. Despite the fact that they are technically movies, they're moreover expanded episodes of the series and though it felt like it went off-track a few times, I came in expecting some thematic closure. Though it wasn't the most satisfying conclusion, it was a conclusion nonetheless. I'd give both a 3 out of 5 mainly because we as the audience are still left in the dark about the other "saviors."
Jex
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Excellent. It will be interesting to see if there's a different take on these character based on the fact that this takes place before has gotten to know each other. Not that I'm looking for some character study.
Dedication Through Light
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I liked the second one and the music in them, I just wish they had at least done more movies for the other saviours are have given it an actual longer season. Odd choice to make the series only 11 episodes. Actually its pretty baffling but it was pretty epic. The most interesting Saviour showed up so late in the actual episodes but did have a cool role in the movie.
I wasn't exposed to any hype for any of his movies. I actually didn't know he had directed Tokyo Godfathers, Millennium Actress, and Perfect Blue, I just loved those movies. It wasn't until I saw Paprika that I decided to do some research and connected them all back to him.
all girls school+love+okada , sweet am getting black rock shooter vibe
Hopefully okada's able to match her magnum opus BRS.
http://www.neowing.co.jp/series_list.html?sid=3436
Looks like Medaka Box is 6 volumes on DVD/BD. 12 episodes total.
Looks like Medaka Box is 6 volumes on DVD/BD. 12 episodes total.
Dedication Through Light
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Thats shocking that the series would be so short.
Considering it's a jump show, I would have expected it be longer.
If so, no Kumogawa.
12 episodes? Damn it might end up shitty
Ill still watch it anyway.
Hansode demands it.
I think I'll enjoy it more myself if it never hits the genre shift
How many late night Jump shows have lasted longer than that? Death Note and Nougami Neuro are the only ones in recent memory that spring to mind, but then most Jump shows don't air at stupid o'clock at night.
Nah, the genre shift is an improvement overall.
Possible that Neowing has only received release information for the remainder of 2012?
12 seems awfully short...
Well, how many jump shows have lasted 12 episodes?
Level E was 13.
Not many - going through Wikipedia we have Hatsukoi Limited and Level E as the only examples that stand out to me, but they're both very recent adaptations. I mean, I see your point to an extent (as in "why not 26 episodes"?) but most Shounen Jump adaptations air in prime time slots rather than the middle of the night and late night shows these days are tending more and more to run for only one season at a time.
Ah yes, I had forgotten about the difference in timeslots that Medaka is airing compared to the usual Jump fare. It still seems like a really bad idea to just make Medaka be a 12 episode series though, hopefully there will be a second season if it is.
Robobandit
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Cajunator is no longer alone in his overpriced purchase!
or alternatively,
Congratulations!
Robobandit
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he wasn't alone to begin with, amazingly enough.
There were others.
He may be alone for S2, though..
I was never alone!
At least 6 or 7 of us crazies sprung for that glorious box.
Maybe more judging by the March pick-up thread.
Dedication Through Light
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I hope the eventual rerelease isnt some barebones dvd only release.
I hope they do a 5.1 dub track with Liam Neeson as Kiritsugu and Gary Oldman as Kirei!
Jex
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I don't know if we should be congratulating people for their decent into insanity.
Robobandit
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I posted in the hopes of shaming myself into never doing it again.
Also, I believe it is descent..
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