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Spring Anime 2015 |OT| The Disappearance of YEAARRT!

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Crocodile

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Yeah, that's certainly one way to go about it. I think that's a bit limiting myself, for a discussion forum. I mean, there's threads sometimes where people post some breakthrough NASA experiment or scientific achievement. I wouldn't want to have it be that only people with PhDs can post in those threads. I guess I'm a bit more laissez faire than you when it comes to forum posting. *shrug*

There's a difference between "I don't know shit but I'd like to learn so I'm going to start posting/reading in this thread and if I say something dumb please correct me!" and "I don't know shit but I'm going to act like I do, use inherently faulty logic and will often ignore counterpoints from those more informed!". The former is fine and is something I do all the time. The later is bad and describes many anime related threads in OT. Of course its hardly exclusive to anime threads, race and gender related threads tend to be way worse than any anime thread, but since this is AnimeGAF, that's the subject at hand.
 

Akainu

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I can see the manga transition, all those faces were probably one panel each. But most of the time they would be done super fast, and do the thing where each one is in a little slice and it filled up the screen. It's hard to find an example since there's no name for it.

Isn't it a reaction shot

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Puruzi

Banned
stop, i dont want to be reminded of that acid/depression trip that was that manga. it was honestly terrifying reading that near the later half.
I haven't read it yet, but I saw someone in mangagaf post something about punpun becoming a smug pyramid and that killed me for some reason
 
You know the most annoying thing about lowest common denominator complaints in anime? Same stuff happens in American TV. There is a reason reality TV and CSI crap is popular while good shows like Person of Interest is barely hanging on. And yet people treat anime like it's the height of shittiness.

I was sure CSI was being cancelled/ended.

I highly suggest watching Secrets & Lies. Easily most gripping show on American TV in years. It makes me wish we did get more mystery animes. Its kind of bad when you have to get your mystery fix from American TV.
 

Cornbread78

Member
Seitokai Yakuindomo ep.1
I wanted something funny to watch on break, so I threw this one on, and wow, this is umm, interesting? I think it was mentioned, but is there really no plot? Do all the episodes just jump around randomly like the first one did? Thete were some funny 1-liners in there but a majority of it was pretty random. Does it get better? I know, I know, the "3 episode rule" right?
 
I think they are pretty different.
And content wise they are probably on opposite ends of the spectrum.

Maybe I should have specified. I meant it as the really detailed reaction shots, and the occasional abstract page with the really detailed art. Like Berserk levels of WAY too much detail haha. It's great.
 

ibyea

Banned
I was sure CSI was being cancelled/ended.

I highly suggest watching Secrets & Lies. Easily most gripping show on American TV in years. It makes me wish we did get more mystery animes. Its kind of bad when you have to get your mystery fix from American TV.

There is still other CSI crap being made though. Also thanks for the recommendation.
 
You know the most annoying thing about lowest common denominator complaints in anime? Same stuff happens in American TV. There is a reason reality TV and CSI crap is popular while good shows like Person of Interest is barely hanging on. And yet people treat anime like it's the height of shittiness.

I think it's because even though CSI and reality TV is generally crap, they usually don't go for the 13 year old upskirt shots as much. That's not quite as much of a thing in CSI.
 

ibyea

Banned
I think it's because even though CSI and reality TV is generally crap, they usually don't go for the 13 year old upskirt shots as much. That's not quite as much of a thing in CSI.

True. Although I do find many reality TV vile, and Cops in particular morally reprehensible.
 

BakedYams

Slayer of Combofiends
I haven't read it yet, but I saw someone in mangagaf post something about punpun becoming a smug pyramid and that killed me for some reason

youll understand what that poster meant once you read the story, its the last thing thatll come to mind.
 

Jintor

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Seitokai Yakuindomo ep.1
I wanted something funny to watch on break, so I threw this one on, and wow, this is umm, interesting? I think it was mentioned, but is there really no plot? Do all the episodes just jump around randomly like the first one did? Thete were some funny 1-liners in there but a majority of it was pretty random. Does it get better? I know, I know, the "3 episode rule" right?

nope 4 koma manga gets 4 koma anime, news at 11. literally no plot. if you don't like it it's just more of the same.

you can tolerate the highest levels of bullshit and syd freaks you out? lol
 

Quasar

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nope 4 koma manga gets 4 koma anime, news at 11. literally no plot. if you don't like it it's just more of the same.

you can tolerate the highest levels of bullshit and syd freaks you out? lol

There's plot. Kind of.

But it is very much a sitcom broken up into multiple sections each episode. I find it pretty funny as long as I don't try to marathon it.
 

Cornbread78

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nope 4 koma manga gets 4 koma anime, news at 11. literally no plot. if you don't like it it's just more of the same.

you can tolerate the highest levels of bullshit and syd freaks you out? lol

Lol, I think it was the speed of the subs that were throwing me off as I often missed the setup or the joke because of all the side text on the top and bottom of the page. It walkie parts of the Monogatari series where they over layer text at times.
 

Jintor

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Lol, I think it was the speed of the subs that were throwing me off as I often missed the setup or the joke because of all the side text on the top and bottom of the page. It walkie parts of the Monogatari series where they over layer text at times.

never watch sayonara zetsubou sensei if syd is throwing you off, haha
 

Jarmel

Banned
Just saw the recent FSN episode.

Why the flying fuck were you people bitching about it? Like what the fuck, they did a good to great job.

I thought the complaints were from Archer preaching like the prior episode. Instead it was more of a dialogue than anything.
 

Mature

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Blood-C 12 [End]
I can't remember, was this show on 'the list'?

I can sort of see why people recommend this censored— it probably turns what is just graphic gore porn into laughable censorship.Though, honestly, I can't imagine this show doing much for me either way. They found a ton of ways to turn my stomach with gore and body horror, but I mean... so? It's not even an unexpected heel turn since the violence just gradually ramps up until the final scenes with the bunnies. I know I'm probably not supposed to be taking this show seriously, but it really did strike a particular feeling of soullessness when
the bunnies started gathering people into a meat sack and blendering them.
Haha, at the end of the day who the hell was this for? It's just sort of sad. There was absolutely nothing of value to be found in this story.

I guess the surprise at the end
that the town was a big setup just for the experiment with Saya was an ambitious turn, but without any proper characterization with the main cast, who the fuck cares that they're all actually dirt bags? And they were already supposed to be dead, so...? It's almost like they brought them back just to kill them again, haha.
It has the irreverence for a weird, pulpy horror, but not the competence. Too bad.

I decided to pick this up from the sort of notoriety it has around here so that I could maybe get a laugh out of it or be surprised, but getting any of either was few and far between. There's really no reason to watch this show unless you're into really abject body horror. Mizushima's pretty good at that.
 

fertygo

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Just saw the recent FSN episode.

Why the flying fuck were you people bitching about it? Like what the fuck, they did a good to great job.

I thought the complaints were from Archer preaching like the prior episode. Instead it was more of a dialogue than anything.

The eps was great, best of season.. first one with directorial effort for awhile.
 

NCR Redslayer

NeoGAF's Vegeta
Blood-C 12 [End]

I can't remember, was this show on 'the list'?

I can sort of see why people recommend this censored— it probably turns what is just graphic gore porn into laughable censorship.Though, honestly, I can't imagine this show doing much for me either way. They found a ton of ways to turn my stomach with gore and body horror, but I mean... so? It's not even an unexpected heel turn since the violence just gradually ramps up until the final scenes with the bunnies. I know I'm probably not supposed to be taking this show seriously, but it really did strike a particular feeling of soullessness when
the bunnies started gathering people into a meat sack and blendering them.
Haha, at the end of the day who the hell was this for? It's just sort of sad. There was absolutely nothing of value to be found in this story.

I guess the surprise at the end
that the town was a big setup just for the experiment with Saya was an ambitious turn, but without any proper characterization with the main cast, who the fuck cares that they're all actually dirt bags? And they were already supposed to be dead, so...? It's almost like they brought them back just to kill them again, haha.
It has the irreverence for a weird, pulpy horror, but not the competence. Too bad.

I decided to pick this up from the sort of notoriety it has around here so that I could maybe get a laugh out of it or be surprised, but getting any of either was few and far between. There's really no reason to watch this show unless you're into really abject body horror. Mizushima's pretty good at that.

Now that that's done, go watch Shiki. The art style is better.
 

Narag

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Ninja Scroll

Outside of the bits with really striking visuals (the opening bridge scene,Tessai vs Jubei, Benisato's snake tattoos, the lovely black & white flashback, limited color palette & strong use of shadow during Jubei vs Shijima), this is kinda bad to average upon revisiting.
 

madp

The Light of El Cantare
Blood-C 12 [End]

I can't remember, was this show on 'the list'?

I can sort of see why people recommend this censored— it probably turns what is just graphic gore porn into laughable censorship.Though, honestly, I can't imagine this show doing much for me either way. They found a ton of ways to turn my stomach with gore and body horror, but I mean... so? It's not even an unexpected heel turn since the violence just gradually ramps up until the final scenes with the bunnies. I know I'm probably not supposed to be taking this show seriously, but it really did strike a particular feeling of soullessness when
the bunnies started gathering people into a meat sack and blendering them.
Haha, at the end of the day who the hell was this for? It's just sort of sad. There was absolutely nothing of value to be found in this story.

I guess the surprise at the end
that the town was a big setup just for the experiment with Saya was an ambitious turn, but without any proper characterization with the main cast, who the fuck cares that they're all actually dirt bags? And they were already supposed to be dead, so...? It's almost like they brought them back just to kill them again, haha.
It has the irreverence for a weird, pulpy horror, but not the competence. Too bad.

I decided to pick this up from the sort of notoriety it has around here so that I could maybe get a laugh out of it or be surprised, but getting any of either was few and far between. There's really no reason to watch this show unless you're into really abject body horror. Mizushima's pretty good at that.

In my personal experience, the reverence that Blood-C receives from myself and others hinges almost entirely around the fact that
every instance of Saya's laughable incompetence was actually deliberate. Some people become increasingly incredulous at every instance of Saya arriving to a slaughter too late, passively watching as people die in front of her before deciding to act, etc. and so the revelation that it wasn't actually terrible writing but was, rather, intentionally designed to evoke these responses in the viewer to prime them for the revelation was cathartic on a level that anime narratives rarely are and immediately earned Blood-C a reputation as a comically malevolent troll show
. The meme of using "protect" as a euphemism for "get killed through incompetence" was born during the show's run primarily because the essence of discussion from episode to episode could be summarized as "what the fuck is Saya doing?!" If Saya's actions through the show weren't a strong source of rage and confusion for you, I can understand why it fell flat for you because the series relies on the viewer becoming increasingly frustrated.
 
Blood-C 12 [End]

I can't remember, was this show on 'the list'?

I can sort of see why people recommend this censored— it probably turns what is just graphic gore porn into laughable censorship.Though, honestly, I can't imagine this show doing much for me either way. They found a ton of ways to turn my stomach with gore and body horror, but I mean... so? It's not even an unexpected heel turn since the violence just gradually ramps up until the final scenes with the bunnies. I know I'm probably not supposed to be taking this show seriously, but it really did strike a particular feeling of soullessness when
the bunnies started gathering people into a meat sack and blendering them.
Haha, at the end of the day who the hell was this for? It's just sort of sad. There was absolutely nothing of value to be found in this story.

I guess the surprise at the end
that the town was a big setup just for the experiment with Saya was an ambitious turn, but without any proper characterization with the main cast, who the fuck cares that they're all actually dirt bags? And they were already supposed to be dead, so...? It's almost like they brought them back just to kill them again, haha.
It has the irreverence for a weird, pulpy horror, but not the competence. Too bad.

I decided to pick this up from the sort of notoriety it has around here so that I could maybe get a laugh out of it or be surprised, but getting any of either was few and far between. There's really no reason to watch this show unless you're into really abject body horror. Mizushima's pretty good at that.
It helps to look at it through a feminist/postmodern lense if you want to take more out of it. I know that it is sort of vague but it's been years since I watched the show so I'd rather not pull stuff out of my ass.
 

javac

Member
Romeo no Aoi Sora (Romeo's Blue Skies) is a 1995 TV series directed by Kozo Kusuba (Alps Stories: My Annette) and produced by Nippon Animation. It’s a slice of life drama filled with historical aspects that works to create a beautiful combination that is both a delight to watch as it is a delight to listen to. A part of the World Masterpiece Theater, home to series such as Anne of Green Gables and Heidi, Girl of the Alp (both of which were directed by Isao Takahata), Romeo fits in right with the rest of them as a remarkable animation that tackles themes often not seen in the medium with such delicacy and care.
As with all of the other World Masterpiece Theater releases, Romeo is based off of a book, this one being Die schwarzen Brüder (The Black Brothers). Published in 1941, it tells the story of boys who were sold for money due to poverty that were then sold off to sweep chimneys in the middle of the 19th century.
Ever since I first laid my eyes on this series, I knew that I would fall in love with it, and sure enough 6 episodes in and Romeo has already struck a chord in my heart. From the lovely animation to the beautiful character designs, backed by a wonderful soundtrack and voice cast, both visually and audibly it’s blown me away and left me spellbound.
Yoshiharu Satou (Key Animation on many Ghibli films) is the man responsible for the character designs here, and I have to say that I love the way in which they look and their designs add a lot to the story and my enjoyment. You see, what at first glance seems to be a happy, child friendly story goes into places that others daren’t go. From child slavery to general violence towards young children and poverty stricken families, it’s a show that’s had me crying both tears of sadness and of happiness many times already.
PLOT: Without going into too much detail as I don’t want to spoil this beautiful series, the first episode sets up the premise and introduces you to the cast. The main character, 11 year old Romeo belongs to a close-knit family who’s been effected by the drought. Day in, day out they work hard to earn what little money they can to survive. As the episode goes by you learn of a mysterious man who goes by the name the ‘God of Death’, a man who buys children off of poor families and sells them on for profit where they then live a life of a chimney sweeper. This story, although fiction is based off of what actually happened in that period of history. Romeos father, Roberto (voiced by Ryusuke Oobayashi) doesn’t give in to the man’s demands, but the God of Death doesn’t play by rules and sets fire to the only bit of field Roberto owns, causing them more despair and worse off financially. With his father’s illness worsening, Romeo sells himself in order to help his father and sets off with the violent man to Milan where he hopes to one day return to his family, and his home. He’ll meet and make many friends along the way, and his life won’t be the same ever again, as he ventures off to become an adult.
The show hasn’t pulled any of its punches and has had me both crying and smiling in a way that most shows don’t. It’s earnest and true to itself and tells its beautiful story with tact. The juxtaposition of the beautiful art style, cheery characters, bright colors and grim story creates a series that is well on its way to being an instant favorite of mine already. Capping off at 33 episodes, my journey has just begun, and like Romeo, I feel as if a lot has left to await me.
 

Haly

One day I realized that sadness is just another word for not enough coffee.
What are you doin, Jigen? Get out of there, you're supposed to be in Lupin III.
 

Mature

Member
In my personal experience, the reverence that Blood-C receives from myself and others hinges almost entirely around the fact that
every instance of Saya's laughable incompetence was actually deliberate. Some people become increasingly incredulous at every instance of Saya arriving to a slaughter too late, passively watching as people die in front of her before deciding to act, etc. and so the revelation that it wasn't actually terrible writing but was, rather, intentionally designed to evoke these responses in the viewer to prime them for the revelation was cathartic on a level that anime narratives rarely are and immediately earned Blood-C a reputation as a comically malevolent troll show
. The meme of using "protect" as a euphemism for "get killed through incompetence" was born during the show's run primarily because the essence of discussion from episode to episode could be summarized as "what the fuck is Saya doing?!" If Saya's actions through the show weren't a strong source of rage and confusion for you, I can understand why it fell flat for you because the series relies on the viewer becoming increasingly frustrated.
I'm glad you pointed that out since it's actually an angle I didn't bother looking at it from. Though I think I'm missing something or I didn't put something from the revelation together,
because why should I assume that all of Saya's laughable incompetence was actually deliberate?
 

javac

Member
What are you doin, Jigen? Get out of there, you're supposed to be in Lupin III.

Haha he does remind me of a Lupin character, not a coincidence I assume? Maybe it's just the go to generic anime template for big bad guy *shrug*. I've not seen Lupin III myself, no idea where to start with that series! (Not Fujiko Mine I assume lol!) The visuals and grittiness reminds me a bit of Ashita no Joe, which Jexhius is watching so maybe he could chime in on that front. I wonder if he's finished the series yet...
 

Jarmel

Banned
FSN-20

So I'm a little baffled at some of the complaints I've been reading about this episode. Now some earlier comments had stated that the episode was talky. So the fuck what? You know why it's fine? Because the visuals and dialogue went hand in hand. Even the earlier parts where it's just Archer talking are much more effective as the audience sees emotion on Archer's face.
Archer is talking to himself, and I don't mean Shirou. It wasn't just two people talking but rather both individuals arguing with themselves through their emotions and memories. Shirou monologuing out loud while the audience sees visuals that justify Shirou's thoughts, facilitate not only Shirou's stance but Archer's. The visuals contextualized the dialogue and vice versa. For example:
The visuals here explain why Shirou lost his faith. It wasn't just Archer talking but Shirou reliving Archer memories and emotions. Just as Shirou sees it, so does the audience. It gives the audience an insight into why Archer is broken in that all Archer sees is death. Shirou and Archer are remembering the exact same events but they see it in totally different lights. It's actually an interesting analysis on perception I guess. The direction was by and large fine, they did a great job with this. I mean we have shots like this:
Where Shirou's sword is worn down almost to the point of breaking and that's representative of his spirit. There's multiple visual shots of Archer standing above Shirou which is basic 101 visual representation of power.
UMyMaGf.jpg

Not to mention there is a 'wall' between the two.
There's also shots like this:
Which is Archer digging emotionally into Shirou. There's multiple shots of Saber which again remind the audience that part of this conversation is for her.
This is just basic storyboarding stuff. I could go into the visual use of repetition when Shirou makes his decision as a way of showing that while Shirou is making the same mistake he doesn't view it as one and is content with his decision. I thought there was good placement of a strong vocal track (by Aimer) which was a very smart decision as it works as a form of the clouds clearing for Shirou.

This was a really strong follow-up episode to Fate/Zero and a very good climax episode for Shirou as a character. It's taken too long to get here but this episode by itself was more than fine. Like I don't know what you people were expecting.

Edit: Forgot to mention in this shot, Avalon is not only healing Shirou but it's also representative of Shirou's desire to protect and save.

Storyboarding was gud.
 

Robotguy

Member
Samurai Flamenco 20
No one else can see Haiji. Hazama ponders whether Haiji is an illusion, and whether he, himself is the source of evil.
 

dimb

Bjergsen is the greatest midlane in the world
FSN-20

So I'm a little baffled at some of the complaints I've been reading about this episode.
It's pretty annoying when people are factually incorrect about anime, right?

it's worse when it involves series/episodes i don't like. aka
all anime ever.
 

Jarmel

Banned
It's pretty annoying when people are factually incorrect about anime, right?

it's worse when it involves series/episodes i don't like. aka
all anime ever.

Honestly the best thing about the episode was the sound direction. Apparently someone realized that they indeed can play music during climatic moments.
 

Jarmel

Banned
You should join us in the FSN thread, that's where the love is. I really enjoyed it.

I have been straight up howling about the direction this entire cour but I feel it's necessary to point out when they do a good job too. It's far too easy to fall into the trap of ignoring the good to just focus on the bad.
 

Mature

Member
Irresponsible Captain Tylor - 1
I saw the first, maybe, five episodes of Tylor a few years back at a convention and I've been really meaning to get back to it. So here we go.

In this first episode we're introduced to the titular character and his reason for wanting to join the Space Force: It's probably really care free. Tylor pretty quickly lives up to the title's distinction. He takes the Space Force's aptitude test, but is quickly distracted by the beautiful representation of the AI. Lavishing her with praise, she falls in love with him and goes haywire crashing the entire electrical structure of the space force and leading to suspicions of a spy. Great.

The highly industrial landscape suffused with cyberpunk gives off a heavy Dirty Pair or Bubblegum Crisis feel. Also sharing that sensibility of design are the characters. Rough angles, shadowed features, with realism in its pocket. Its pretty easy to tell what era this show is a product of. Immediately we understand what kind of world we're in. We come to understand the different cultures of the warring nations and their plights through dialogue, but a lot more is communicated directly through the detailed visuals. This first episode looked pretty stellar.

 
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