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Square Enix: FFXV shipments + digital sales top 5 million worldwide

Inuhanyou

Believes Dragon Quest is a franchise managed by Sony
With almost a decade of development, how many do they need to break even?

It wasn't a decade in development. It spent 2006 to 2011 with a skeleton crew for the most part.

It only started in earnest when they rebooted it to 15, so about 4 years.
 

ethomaz

Banned
Yep. SE still gets the money.
That is not how it works.

If the copy didn't sell they have to fire sale and get less money or in the worst case get the copies back and returning the money (that is called negative shipment).

You only really get the money if the copy reaches the co consumers (that is what is sold).
 
https://twitter.com/famitsu/status/804282112668930048

According to Famitsu, that makes it the fastest selling game in the series.

It was bound to be because it was a simultaneous worldwide launch, whereas every other entry had its Western launch staggered. FF13 had three months between, and that still made it the fastest ever at the time after the Western version launched.

Or basically: Yes, FF15 in all regions (including an all-new, expanding market in China) outsold FF13 in one region in their first weeks. That much is obvious.

The real question is: if you added together Japan Week 1 and ROW week 1 for FF13 - just week one and nothing else and put that against FF15 week one worldwide - which would win? We'll probably never know that, but aye. 15 was always gonna break this record unless something went drastically wrong.

I really hope it sells a lot of these 5 million, though! This is a really promising start.
 

13ruce

Banned
With almost a decade of development, how many do they need to break even?

I guess around like 10m copies sold maybe? But the first tomb raider reboot game already needed like 5m copies to break even, so it could be way more.

Especially since the game was in dev hell, so they might maybe even never break even.
 

bigol

Member
Why when i read FF XV threads everytime i see the same users downplaying everything positive about the game?
 

Principate

Saint Titanfall
That is not how it works.

If the copy didn't sell they have to fire sale and get less money or in the worst case get the copies back and returning the money (that is called negative shipment).

You only really get the money if the copy reaches the co consumers (that is what is sold).

Depends on what country it is sold in. In Japan for example retailers have all the liability for the shipped games, So it really is money in the bank as theirs no price protection for them
 

wrowa

Member
Considering how many games were overshipped in the last months (it's crazy how cheap Dishonored 2, Mafia 3 and the likes have become in my town already...), I'm not going to celebrate this number before we have solid sale-through numbers.

I do hope this will be successful, after a rocky start I started to really enjoy my time with it. Likely my GotY even.
 
How much did the game cost?
Are they doing profit?

It sounds like a good number, specially for jrpg =D, still waiting for my copy to arrive =(.

Why when i read FF XV threads everytime i see the same users downplaying everything positive about the game?

Square-enix infiltrators ?
 

EmiPrime

Member
I can't wait to get this for £10 in a supermarket 3-6 months from now because of SE's legendary channel stuffing and over-optimistic projections.
 

wrowa

Member
With almost a decade of development, how many do they need to break even?

They probably already wrote off the money they spent on the game under Nomura. From SE's perspective, development on FFXV likely only started once they retooled the game for next-gen under Tabata's direction.
 
The real question is: if you added together Japan Week 1 and ROW week 1 for FF13 - just week one and nothing else and put that against FF15 week one worldwide - which would win? We'll probably never know that, but aye. 15 was always gonna break this record unless something went drastically wrong.

Why will we never know that? Isn't it calculable with the data available online? I'm very interested in knowing which game did better.
 
So I guess that so-called decline in popularity for the franchise was a myth then? People have been saying for years now that Final Fantasy isn't the name it once was, but if XV can pull in impressive numbers like this then I'd say it's still an IP that's very much flourishing.

Of course, Remake will blow XV out of the water.
 
I guess around like 10m copies sold maybe? But the first tomb raider reboot game already needed like 5m copies to break even, so it could be way more.

Especially since the game was in dev hell, so they might maybe even never break even.
The game had a skeleton crew before 2011/12. Full development was only 4 years.
 
Final Fantasy XV is the first title from the series to have a worldwide simultaneous relaese, and it also broke the record for most first-day digital sales in Japan, according to Famitsu. Furthermore, the RPG saw a new record for the total of release date shipment and downloads in Asian regions excluding Japan. Retail and digital stales continue to perform favorably in all regions.
Read more at http://www.siliconera.com/2016/12/0...est-selling-title-series/#0SZPXMBG2RUHD3xg.99

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LordKano

Member
So I guess that so-called decline in popularity for the franchise was a myth then? People have been saying for years now that Final Fantasy isn't the name it once was, but if XV can pull in impressive numbers like this then I'd say it's still an IP that's very much flourishing.

Of course, Remake will blow XV out of the water.

Let's wait to have real numbers before stating a decline or not, shall we ? For what we know right now, it's a huge decline in Japan.
 

Heartfyre

Member
Why when i read FF XV threads everytime i see the same users downplaying everything positive about the game?

I think there are a subset of people that got really emotionally invested in the failure of this game since it changed from Versus XIII to XV. Stella 'n stuff.

I'd imagine the repeated swell of good news around the game must be frustrating to them.
 
It's worth noting that the digital sales is included in this number. Recent AAA games had average of 30% of their sales as digital, so expect a large percentage of the 5 millions to be actual digital sales.
 
So I guess that so-called decline in popularity for the franchise was a myth then? People have been saying for years now that Final Fantasy isn't the name it once was, but if XV can pull in impressive numbers like this then I'd say it's still an IP that's very much flourishing.

Of course, Remake will blow XV out of the water.
I blame the piece of shit called FF13 and the sequels. It was a dark time.
 

sasuke_91

Member
Well, base.com had to delay my shipment because they had to restock. They definitely didn't overship for that shop at least :p
 

kurahador

Member
JRPG is saved. Based Tabata the god.

I was disappointed to see DQ7 get huge discount during BF here, so this news feels good.
 
Yes. Especially in the media create Thread, people were and are joking for a while now how this will bomb and how funny it is loooooool! Looool a game is bombing so funny :D Wuhu

JRPG Games are dying, yeah lets party !

:)
 

Zedark

Member
Let's wait to have real numbers before stating a decline or not, shall we ? For what we know right now, it's a huge decline in Japan.

What data do we have for that? I saw someone say first day had a 48% sell-through, any other data points?
 

gconsole

Member
Why do some people feel the need to get defensive about criticism or dodgy PR tactics?

So saying fastest selling game in franchise is dodgy? That happen to almost like every other million seller game not just FF. I would say nitpicking hater here.
 

LordKano

Member
Hasn't Japan has a huge decline in home console sales in general, though?

PS4 sales are mostly similar to the PS3 ones though, at this point.

What data do we have for that? I saw someone say first day had a 48% sell-through, any other data points?

YSO predictions, which are not 100% accurate, were for about 650-700k for the first week. It's a huge decline from FFXIII.
 
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