Is that confirmed however? Because that this is a retelling of Star Fox 64's events doesn't immediately kick what happened afterwards. Or else...
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Star Fox Zero & Guard - Review Thread
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Is that confirmed however? Because that this is a retelling of Star Fox 64's events doesn't immediately kick what happened afterwards. Or else...
The Star Fox Zero short animation that released yesterday had Slippy mention that they left Sauria 10 days prior to Andross' invasion.
Vampirolol
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At some point Fox enters a portal but goes mad because of the interstellar travel and kills Dinosaur Planet and Krystal, you actually get to do it, such a chilling scene and a critique on modern games, I really cried. Too bad this happens after 3 hours and 1 minute so most reviewers couldn't see it.
I just want Krystal to disappear
savage
CyanideFuse
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The reviews seem divisive but David Jenkins of Metro.co.uk gave it an 8 so that is really all I need. I am not going to worry about low scores from sites I don't read.
A great post and I agree with all you say. It just shows how gaming has changed. Needless padding and grinding that stretches an anaemic game across 30-40 hours seems acceptable in this day-and-age.
A great post and I agree with all you say. It just shows how gaming has changed. Needless padding and grinding that stretches an anaemic game across 30-40 hours seems acceptable in this day-and-age.
So the original multiplayer content for Splatoon was 15 minutes?
I'm not sure if the mediocre reception is for genuine reasons or it's another Wonderful 101 situation where reviewers just didn't get a grasp on the controls and those who did loved it. 3 hours isn't a detractor for me really, because there isn't only 3 hours of content.
I would say Sonic's had more than one good game tbh
Apt comparison though, considering the amount of experimentation in the series. Most Starfox games feel like either tech demos or totally different games with Fox in them to me.
I would say Sonic's had more than one good game tbh
Apt comparison though, considering the amount of experimentation in the series. Most Starfox games feel like either tech demos or totally different games with Fox in them to me.
You know the last non-remake SF game came out in 2006, right?
If you want to talk a franchise that Nintendo mismanaged to hell and back despite its' success, look at Metroid. Star Fox is simply a 1-trick pony they never figured out how to expand on.
Fox fought Andross in Adventures tho. Besides Krystal not joining, didn't Peppy retire in Adventures and took on a support role?
Castef
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mmmh... you could add the most recent Afterburner.
It's a new continuity, but apparently Sauria still exists and Team Star Fox has already been there.
It's the shirt you wanted in 2002.
Vampirolol
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This works on so many levels.
Woah, Guard is on a disk. I don't know why I was expecting a download code in a box.
Fixed
Milly Osworth
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Does it say BABEMAGNET on the back?
Candescence
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While that really doesn't mean much aside from Sauria existing, unless whoever makes the next game forgets about this particular detail, I imagine it'd be excuse to get into the meat of things quickly. And, again, at least one notable Platinum dev wants Krystal in the sequel.
I'd be totally up for a Platinum-style reimagining of Sauria regardless of gameplay format, btw. Maybe they'll even look at Rare's original plans for Dinosaur Planet and take notes.
wild wild rice
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That shirt is incredible. Just tracked my delivery and it's coming today. Love it when stuff shows up a day early.
TheSlySoul
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So I got in touch with Amazon, seems the delivery date is bugged but the game should be delivered Friday.
Reviewers tend to give up if any challenge comes up.
I am still disappointed alternate exits are event based and not based on goals.
Yeah, I am hearing this more from actual gamers and not reviewers. I am looking forward to trying to master them.Big grin on my face
Once you've mastered the controls, the game is ridiculously fun. I know many say it takes hours to master it, but I've got the hang of it pretty fast.
Reviewers tend to give up if any challenge comes up.
I am still disappointed alternate exits are event based and not based on goals.
Spring-Loaded
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"Waaa I have to learn a new control method"
I'm enjoying it so far
Oh, it's this again.
Still wondering how long it'll take for people to accept that some won't like the controls.
Again: At what point can someone say they don't like the game and/or the controls and not be arraigned for it? How long do you have to play and how good will you have to be at the game in order to say that?
I love this shirt, but it should've been a Hawaiian shirt, not a t-shirt. That would've made it pure perfection
To be fair, Yoshi's Story received criticism even back then for altering the formula so drastically from its predecessor, where even taking into account that it was designed for multiple playthroughs that it still wound up with far fewer levels than YI, and with very little variety to boot.
Baloonatic
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Definitely curious to play this when it arrives, still not really clear what is making some reviewers dislike it more than 64.
TheSlySoul
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Common in-game issues reviewers are saying tend to be:
- Alternate exits are event based
- Levels are short
- Not enough going on in levels
Star Fox 64 is a high bar though, it is the best N64 game IMO.
Dreams-Visions
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Hmmm. Review scores match the energy level the game left me with after the final trailer.
Pass. Have fun with it though, guys.
Pass. Have fun with it though, guys.
Ocarina wants you to fight it, after school. Playground, 3pm.
Won't be able to play til saturday, but game should be delivered tomorrow afternoon. Just need to finish ratchet before I start! Almost done, I think. Looking forward to a real star fox game again, even if it is 15 years late.
Baloonatic
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Thanks for the summary. The last point is worrying, I don't think short levels is necessarily a bad thing though. We'll see, should hopefully have it tomorrow.
It seems weird to mention it. Either way Peppy and Slippy are more likeable in this short than previous games.
Same. Practice mode would have been fine even.
Do it.
TheSlySoul
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Majora's Mask is better than Ocarina. There I said it!
For real though, I still love Ocarina. Probably my #5.
Glass Rebel
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The most depressing thing about this is that Treasure made an amazing railshooter for Nintendo on Wii with Sin & Punishment 2. Go back to that and tell me, which one looks more impressive for it's respective hardware?
Should put this as a disclaimer under all your posts just to give other people a heads-up.
I enjoyed Star Fox Adventures for its characters, world, and story
Should put this as a disclaimer under all your posts just to give other people a heads-up.
TheSlySoul
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Hopefully I will enjoy it more than reviewers.
The reviews were exhausting to read because some of them come off as real whiny. GamesRadar, IGN, and GameXplain to me had the best reads/watches.
It will never cease to amaze me that we got S&P2 at all. Iwata had to have known they were going to take a bath on that game as soon as it was suggested, and he still gave the greenlight and gave Treasure all the resources they needed to make something that crazy and epic. Every level felt like its own game.
As a person who writes about, and sometimes reviews, games, I know personally from speaking to others how reluctant they are with different controls. I know many that won't give a game a shot if it doesn't have "standard" controls. It's ridiculous.
Yeah, there's not liking controls, and I get that, but many won't give them a chance and go in expecting to hate it.
I'm liking the controls, though they are exhausting while being fun.
Where'd you get it?
Big grin on my face
Once you've mastered the controls, the game is ridiculously fun. I know many say it takes hours to master it, but I've got the hang of it pretty fast.
You are insane, you expect people to take HOURS to learn anything related to handling a game.
You're both wrong, it's Banjo-Kazooie.
To be honest I'm undecided, but OoT and SF64 are easily in the top four anyway.
I don't see the problem with that.
MisterR
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Ratchet and Clank is a fantastic game and it looks worlds better than the PS3 ones. Not to mention it launched at 40 bucks.
Nintendo UK store. Seems to be out of stock at the moment though.
Ugh. I always pre-order at Best Buy. They never send me anything early. Let us know what you think!
That's a perfectly fine response. Just something that has been percolating with me. Nintendo has just been missing it's mark with me more recently. Early Wii U and 3DS were fantastic and now I'm having a hard time getting through what the media perceives to be good to excellent games which makes it harder for me to justify a purchase in a genre I'm not huge on when the reviews are all the way from poor to good. And it's not that I've suddenly stopped liking that Nintendo style of game, I'm digging Ratchet and Clank right now and loved Ori and the Blind Forest (essentially a homage to Nintendo game design).
Zomba13
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So far I'm enjoying it. Worst bit so far is the slow ass Gyrocopter and Direct-i stuff but I assumed that'd be slow and tedious going by everything they showed in trailers and such. I like the chicken mode more than I thought I would, I imagined that would be clunky and awkward but it works fine for what is essentially "on foot" mode.
The aiming does take a bit to get used to but not because "omg motion waggle uch" but because it's not what I thought, I imagined the onscreen aim reticule would be accurate to the motion stuff but it's not. What that means is you can't just rely on looking at the screen and tilting to get better aim, you do need to look at the gamepad because the cross-hairs line up correctly on that but not on the screen. Unsure if that changes if you have it set to only use motion when you use ZR (which is the fire button, which seems like a weird thing to do. I thought that control scheme was like, normal SF shooting but then you hit an "aim" button to allow you to aim but the "aim" button is really just the fire button so I don't know how that changes things apart from keeping the cross-hairs still when you're not shooting which doesn't seem to be any kind of issue).
The aiming does take a bit to get used to but not because "omg motion waggle uch" but because it's not what I thought, I imagined the onscreen aim reticule would be accurate to the motion stuff but it's not. What that means is you can't just rely on looking at the screen and tilting to get better aim, you do need to look at the gamepad because the cross-hairs line up correctly on that but not on the screen. Unsure if that changes if you have it set to only use motion when you use ZR (which is the fire button, which seems like a weird thing to do. I thought that control scheme was like, normal SF shooting but then you hit an "aim" button to allow you to aim but the "aim" button is really just the fire button so I don't know how that changes things apart from keeping the cross-hairs still when you're not shooting which doesn't seem to be any kind of issue).
Spring-Loaded
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That doesn't answer my questions though. At what point can the GamesRadar reviewer, or anyone else, say they don't like the controls, don't how those controls are implemented, and don't like how it affects the overall experience, without it merely being "waaaa, I don't want to learn new controls?"
If someone's played Splatoon and not liked gyro controls, will you say they're still whining when they're worried about whether they'll like Zero? How long do they need to have played the game to be able to voice their opinion about it legitimately?
and is it even possible for someone else to criticize the controls as being a negative aspect of the game? If so, what would they have to say, and to what degree would they need to assess the controls to be satisfactory for you?
Only reason I ask is because I'm wondering whether it's worthwhile posting impressit be of the game here if anything negative is going to get met with defensive drivel on mere principle.