To what specific thing are you guys referring? Pegg still seems pretty down to earth. Yea, he probably has an overblown ego from the all the geek/sci-fi love, but was there something he recently said or did?
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To what specific thing are you guys referring? Pegg still seems pretty down to earth. Yea, he probably has an overblown ego from the all the geek/sci-fi love, but was there something he recently said or did?
Bobby Roberts
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Even if there WAS something he said or did, it's not like he's the next Kevin Smith or anything. He's got a long way to go before he descends to that particular circle of nerd hell.
ThoseDeafMutes
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That's really cool.
KingofGourds
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I wouldn't say there's anything specific, and I didn't mean to sound quite so melodramatic. Personally it's just that ever since around the film "Paul" - with its horrendously lopsided presentation of the religion/science debate - I've noticed a kind smugness in his opinions that's kinda not so great.
smokeandmirrors
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Oh I see. Hey, no worries if you feel that way. Most Hollywood celebrities are smug douches anyway.
The Librarian
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Mengy
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First, John Carter wasn't a blockbuster, it was a huge commercial flop. But I'll overlook that nitpick for the sake of argument.
And come on, The Avengers was not only a better movie than John Carter, but a much bigger "blockbuster" film in every way. I mean don't get me wrong I personally enjoyed JC and thought it deserved to do better than it did, but Avengers was a far, far better movie in every way.
Oh and damn you Sculli for seeing Star Trek early, LOL!
SCULLIBUNDO
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I can accept that you enjoyed both and think The Avengers is better (even if I strongly disagree), but if we're going to nitpick, even if you like The Avengers much more, how can you say it's better in every way when JC's OST shits on the chest of The Avengers?
Mengy
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Yeah, good point on the OST. Okay, not in every way then, hah.
I agree, I mean I always envisioned him as
An Indian with pretty caucasian features, because I figured he was supposed to embody some of that Aryan superiority thing. On the other hand, Sikh's (to me) look pretty indistinguishable from other Indians. Assuming McGivers was right that he's a Sikh. Either way, not Cumberbatch at all, and I have a hard time believing they couldn't have found a guy to fit either of the above categories. And where are those pecs? 
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)Don´t know if I´m saying too much.
1) Well, that pretty much resembles the first 2/3 of the movie.
2) Let me put it this way: Cumberbatch is underused. Its all about his voice.
3) As a defense, StiD stands pretty much on its own feet, the predecessor is pretty much useless.
2) Let me put it this way: Cumberbatch is underused. Its all about his voice.
3) As a defense, StiD stands pretty much on its own feet, the predecessor is pretty much useless.
just listened to a couple of songs from the ost sogood.gif.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=lo8emjVDTDo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=mTYcxIFBSCE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=RHXiIT4BWI8
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=lo8emjVDTDo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=mTYcxIFBSCE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=RHXiIT4BWI8
BruceLeeRoy
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Me and my wife really really enjoyed JC. I was pretty bummed to see this great foundation laid for the sequels and knowing there would be nothing built upon it.
OST is indeed great too.
I loved Robert Downy but the actual movie was pretty mediocre
SCULLIBUNDO
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Just got back. This will be spoiler-free. I won't talk about anything at all relating to the story because I went into this movie pretty much completely dark.
I have to say that I'm pretty fucking disappointed.. in myself for not being hyped up nearly as much as should have been prior to this movie.
It was fucking great. It was such a great sequel that I'm still buzzing on it right now. I should say that I was a big fan of Abrams' first Trek film and that if you liked that, you will love this. If you hated Trek 09, then you will find plenty of things to nitpick in this film. It is a sequel to that movie in every way.
It was everything a blockbuster popcorn flick should be. It was rousing, thrilling and there were a lot of laughs throughout. But more than anything, it cemented that JJ Abrams is now one of the few directors in Hollywood who know how to put $200m (Edit: Just checked it was only $185) up on screen and let you see every dollar. Watch out, I'm about to talk about effects for a sec. This film feels SO much larger in scope and polish than the first film and it all looks absolutely fucking phenomenal. This is the sort of experience we should expect from budgets like that. Not shit like The Avengers - which looks downright shitty in comparison, especially for the amount of money that went into that.
I will say that the converted 3D is worthless, which is to be expected after Abrams made it clear it was forced on him. Though there are one or two shots that put the scale of some things into perspective that were rather nice. But otherwise I wouldn't bother unless it's the only way you can see this film on a big screen. Because you do need to see this film on a big screen.
The same kind of conveniences/plot contrivances that nitpickers had with the first film exist here, so those people will have a field day. But if you were able to overlook those in the first film and just go with it, you'll enjoy the fuck out of this. It's nothing like Prometheus' problems despite Lindelof's presence. You know this because - like Trek 09, the character work all feels very strong and organic. I was very much invested in what was going on and rooting for the Enterprise crew to kick ass. This is that kind of fist-pumping experience.
Everybody was great in the film. Even Alice Eve. I will say that some of the minor crew who got a little more due in the first film have been somewhat brushed to the side in this film, but nobody gets ignored. It all still feels like a group effort.
Giacchino is still Giacchino - which is to say that the score was everything it ought to have been and I will be purchasing it asap. Would put it on par or maybe slightly above the first Trek's score, though will have to give it a re-listen first before I decide.
I'm not giving away any of the story, but will put tags on this for those super-sensitive folk that might construe this next sentence as a maybe-possible-impressions-leading-to-ideas-in-my-head spoiler:
This is Abrams' strongest film as a director. He seems to have developed a much stronger visual language than any of his previous films indicated. This was actually the first film where I could actually see him as somebody who studies Spielberg's craft - if only because that very specific means through which Spielberg communicates information to the audience about a character or place visually is something JJ now seems to be consciously aware of.
This was a great sequel. A solid 9/10 popcorn flick and I'm glad I'm seeing it again on Thursday.
More than anything, this just re-confirmed to me that I couldn't be happier that Episode VII is in this dude's hands.
I have to say that I'm pretty fucking disappointed.. in myself for not being hyped up nearly as much as should have been prior to this movie.
It was fucking great. It was such a great sequel that I'm still buzzing on it right now. I should say that I was a big fan of Abrams' first Trek film and that if you liked that, you will love this. If you hated Trek 09, then you will find plenty of things to nitpick in this film. It is a sequel to that movie in every way.
It was everything a blockbuster popcorn flick should be. It was rousing, thrilling and there were a lot of laughs throughout. But more than anything, it cemented that JJ Abrams is now one of the few directors in Hollywood who know how to put $200m (Edit: Just checked it was only $185) up on screen and let you see every dollar. Watch out, I'm about to talk about effects for a sec. This film feels SO much larger in scope and polish than the first film and it all looks absolutely fucking phenomenal. This is the sort of experience we should expect from budgets like that. Not shit like The Avengers - which looks downright shitty in comparison, especially for the amount of money that went into that.
I will say that the converted 3D is worthless, which is to be expected after Abrams made it clear it was forced on him. Though there are one or two shots that put the scale of some things into perspective that were rather nice. But otherwise I wouldn't bother unless it's the only way you can see this film on a big screen. Because you do need to see this film on a big screen.
The same kind of conveniences/plot contrivances that nitpickers had with the first film exist here, so those people will have a field day. But if you were able to overlook those in the first film and just go with it, you'll enjoy the fuck out of this. It's nothing like Prometheus' problems despite Lindelof's presence. You know this because - like Trek 09, the character work all feels very strong and organic. I was very much invested in what was going on and rooting for the Enterprise crew to kick ass. This is that kind of fist-pumping experience.
Everybody was great in the film. Even Alice Eve. I will say that some of the minor crew who got a little more due in the first film have been somewhat brushed to the side in this film, but nobody gets ignored. It all still feels like a group effort.
Giacchino is still Giacchino - which is to say that the score was everything it ought to have been and I will be purchasing it asap. Would put it on par or maybe slightly above the first Trek's score, though will have to give it a re-listen first before I decide.
I'm not giving away any of the story, but will put tags on this for those super-sensitive folk that might construe this next sentence as a maybe-possible-impressions-leading-to-ideas-in-my-head spoiler:
I can see a lot of old school trekkies being PISSED in this film.
This is Abrams' strongest film as a director. He seems to have developed a much stronger visual language than any of his previous films indicated. This was actually the first film where I could actually see him as somebody who studies Spielberg's craft - if only because that very specific means through which Spielberg communicates information to the audience about a character or place visually is something JJ now seems to be consciously aware of.
This was a great sequel. A solid 9/10 popcorn flick and I'm glad I'm seeing it again on Thursday.
More than anything, this just re-confirmed to me that I couldn't be happier that Episode VII is in this dude's hands.
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That was a great read sculli.
Expendable.
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Awesome, sounds like I'll love it Sculli!
SCULLIBUNDO
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I would say yes.
I dunno, man. When it comes to blockbusters like this we're usually like two positively charged ions.
SCULLIBUNDO
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A funny anecdote: this was a blind special screening that people had to pay for. My theatre marketed it as part of the 'Chicks at the Flix' campaign. It was either going to be an early screening of Trek or an early screening of Gatsby. 95% of the cinema were women expecting Gatbsy and when it became apparent that it was Trek you heard a mix of laughs/groans from all the women in the audience, while the odd 'YES!' from some of the maybe fifteen guys in the theatre rang out. Hilarious stuff.
SCULLIBUNDO
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It is. It's very much a rollercoaster ride like that film. Full of energy and mirroring that sense of fun and exciting action in a big way.
Expendable.
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True, but I loved Star Trek as well!
SCULLIBUNDO
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JetBlackPanda
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Holy shit! Beam me up fuckers.
Thanks. The part that got me the most hyped in your review was that the movie does focus on the characters. That's something that makes ST09 really work and helps me to forgive a lot of the narrative faults.
SCULLIBUNDO
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I'm also now super sad that JJ has said he probably won't be able to come back for the third film.
But still so happy that EpVII is in his hands.
But still so happy that EpVII is in his hands.
Mengy
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Outstanding, sounds like I'll love it just as much as I hoped I would. I have to wait until the 17th to see it though, such a long wait...
Think I'll watch ST09 this weekend just to help make the wait more bearable, lol.
PhoncipleBone
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I read a review on AICN. Well, the first paragraph because of warned spoilers, and they hated it and said it undid all the goodwill of the first movie.
But Sculli loved it, so faith is restored.
But Sculli loved it, so faith is restored.
SCULLIBUNDO
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Sculli loves it?
But he loved John Bomba!
I WANT TO BELIEVE
Solo, this is the film that will reunite our loins.
SCULLIBUNDO
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Yeah it was like 2h15m.
I'm glad that you liked it Sculli but I don't know man....., I don't know.
It doesn't sound poorly paced like TDKR so I have no problem with this.
I'm glad that you liked it Sculli but I don't know man....., I don't know.
He has a point though:
Prometheus, terrible.
The Avengers, serviceable.
The Dark Knight Rises, disappointing. (The worst feeling.)
The Hobbit, serviceable.
MIB 3, lol.
Does Skyfall count? I'd probably give it to that, although I wasn't blown away there either.
If Sculli loved John Carter then that's great but there were many, many films released in 2012 that were much better than John Carter IMHO.
If we're talking 'event films' (John Carter was never a blockbuster because it bombed) then Hunger Games was miles better than John Carter with superior plotting, characters and acting never mind big fall releases like Django Unchained which, while a drama, was undoubtedly an 'event film' in it's own right.
The Librarian
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Guys, I wouldn't get too hyped. Remember, Sculli's opinions are pretty bad.
SCULLIBUNDO
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John Carter shits on both HG and Django. Sorry bro, you don't have the voice of Barsoom.
((John Carter shits on both HG and Django. Sorry bro, you don't have the voice of Barsoom.
I did...., but some antibiotics cleared it right up.
John Bomba craps all over THG, which was atrocious on almost every level.
Django is obviously much better than John Bomba though.
SCULLIBUNDO
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Django was disappointing as hell for me. I don't think I'll be rewatching it for a long while. Hopefully it gets better on rewatch, but to me it felt like a lazy mish-mash of his previous two revenge flicks ad nauseum.
I really, really hope QT cuts the revenge shit out now.
I really, really hope QT cuts the revenge shit out now.
SCULLIBUNDO
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Sculli have you read the less than positive reviews? What are your thoughts on the points they bring up? I really hope this is good
Maybe but not quite spoilers.
Like I said, I can see this film HUGELY pissing off longtime Trek fans. I have judged this film as a sequel to the first film and nothing more. I do agree that there are some cheap contrivances, but could easily forgive them because I was enjoying the film and the characters so much.
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