vaibhavpisal
Member
Wut?I think you missed a sentence there at the end while copying and pasting from the script mate.
Grammar policing much?
I was talking about exploration in case that wasn’t clear.
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Starfield has lost 97% of its Steam players in less than six months.
Grammar policing much?
I was talking about exploration in case that wasn’t clear.
Shut0wen
Banned
I know the games not good (seriously who would of thought the game would be good when bethesda made the abomination that is fallout 4) but seems like alot gamers go by the merit of x game player drops by y. It actually means nothing but i have no doubt starfields player count will go up once mod support is enabled so doesnt really mean much other then everyone has swen everything in the game or people are bored of it but at the end of the day bethesda and other developers will more then likely not give a fuck because sales have been made i just dont really understand the obsession with the amount of players playing a game
Don Carlo
Member
Surely one of the games of all time and one of the RPGs to ever exist. You can't go wrong with it.
Fess
Member
There are 6.8k mods right now on nexus, that’s not bad at all, new mods come every day. But I think the modding tools will give the game a boost. Likely won’t ever reach Skyrim-level but no games do that.
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Panajev2001a
GAF's Pleasant Genius
What grammar? You just cut the sentence in half and the rest read like a generic script. Come on…
Rien
Jelly Belly
How it so quickly turned into "most single player games". Hindsight is 20/20.
This is why Xbox is losing, even the fans are out of touch.
Heart_Attack
Member
If the game had good writing/story and not girlbosses everywhere, then the reception would be much better.
killatopak
Gold Member
I have first hand knowledge that modders scoff at working on Starfield at least in its current version. Lots of huge names in Nexus modding don’t even want to work on it. Just join Discord on some of the big ones like Ostim and check chatlogs. Search for Starfield.
Nate Diaz gif!
In the six months since it launched, Starfield, Bethesda's long-awaited space RPG, has seen its Steam player count drop by over 300,000
Source
midnightAI
Member
Yeah, this is definitely the other one coming to PS5
Mokus
Member
Gamers (andSingle player game loses most of its playerbase 6 months after launch?
No shit Sherlock.
I finished it after a month or two, and moved on to a multitude of other single player games that I have since completed too. And get this, I no longer boot them up either!
Wank article, wank thread.
Hohenheim
Member
Is this really so strange? It's a single player game released in september ladt year, and most of the people who wanted to play this is probably done with it by now?
I loved the game, but i'm one of those who are done with it and therefore part of that percent of "lost players" aka players who have finished the game.
Will probably get a boost when DLC arrives,and when/if it arrives on Playstation.
I loved the game, but i'm one of those who are done with it and therefore part of that percent of "lost players" aka players who have finished the game.
Will probably get a boost when DLC arrives,and when/if it arrives on Playstation.
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Skifi28
Member
It's strange because fallout 4 which wasn't even considered that good by the playerbase has 3 times as many players after a decade.
avin
Member
Well, I'm still playing it, sort of, but that's because I don't have much time, and it takes me longer in real time to put the game time in. Now, I've moved well past 60 hours, and I see the cracks clearly enough that I may not put in much more.
The artwork is brilliant, it's almost enough to carry the game for me, but still - only almost. The ship builder is great. I don't think the usual criticisms you hear - loading, dull characters, fetch quests - are my biggest issue. Those would be fixable, at least in principle. My problem is Bethesda took a short cut to modeling the space between planets and over planets. It doesn't really exist that I can see, or only to the extent that one fast travels through it. Effectively all of space is a single fast travel point over each planet. You can't fly over planets, for all purposes that space doesn't exist. It's a serious problem for a space sim.
avin
The artwork is brilliant, it's almost enough to carry the game for me, but still - only almost. The ship builder is great. I don't think the usual criticisms you hear - loading, dull characters, fetch quests - are my biggest issue. Those would be fixable, at least in principle. My problem is Bethesda took a short cut to modeling the space between planets and over planets. It doesn't really exist that I can see, or only to the extent that one fast travels through it. Effectively all of space is a single fast travel point over each planet. You can't fly over planets, for all purposes that space doesn't exist. It's a serious problem for a space sim.
avin
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WhamBamThankYouMaam
Member
I never even finished it, which surprised me as I really liked it at first. I just wanted stealing ships to matter, selling stolen loot to work (just make them not buy crap), and mining to be an actual thing.
But, yeah. I stead I got planets where I was supposed to ”tske pictures” of plants and animals. I just lost interest.
But, yeah. I stead I got planets where I was supposed to ”tske pictures” of plants and animals. I just lost interest.
Luigi Mario
Member
You can also look at how many players their last big RPG, Fallout 4, retained in the same time frame:
Fallout 4 released in early November 2015 and still had around 45k players in early April 2016.
Whereas, Starfield released in early September 2023 but only manages around 10k players now.
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hououinkyouma00
Member
Who would have thought that a shit game would lose it's player base.
DenchDeckard
Moderated wildly
We will see who gets the last laugh here.
Also, you guys have gotta think that those likes were done before launch. It's not crazy for people to think a Bethesda game would be played for a decade before launch, looks at skyrim and fallout.... Still being played to this day.
It was a good assumption to make.
And double also, no one talks about spider man 2 at all, it's not even a conversation point anymore apart from someone making the odd comment about how woke it is.
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I don't think the question is why early adopters aren't still playing it, especially without an expansion release. The question is, where are the second and third wave of purchases that would keep the player count higher? This game already got the Alamogordo '83 treatment on Xbox at Walmart. A department manager even some bullshit cooked up about all the discs being defective. 
StereoVsn
Gold Member
And Fallout 4 (before Starfield) was considered the weakest Bethesda RPG since Daggerfall. So the fact they Fallout 4 retained 4x or so players in the same time period is kind of telling.You can also look at how many players their last big RPG, Fallout 4, retained in the same time frame:
Fallout 4 released in early November 2015 and still had around 45k players in early April 2016.
Whereas, Starfield released in early September 2023 but only retains around 10k players now.
Bernardougf
Member
Topher
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We will see who gets the last laugh here.
Also, you guys have gotta think that those likes were done before launch. It's not crazy for people to think a Bethesda game would be played for a decade before launch, looks at skyrim and fallout.... Still being played to this day.
It was a good assumption to make.
And double also, no one talks about spider man 2 at all, it's not even a conversation point anymore apart from someone making the odd comment about how woke it is.
I'm a fan of Starfield, but it is stupid to pit games against each other and make absurd predictions such as these as you will often end up looking silly. As you are finding out here. Just take the L.
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DeepEnigma
Gold Member
tHiS fOrUm
The "launched aligned" graphs above your post are not comparing Fallout with eight years of sales versus Starfield with five months of sales. It is objectively performing worse than their last game over the same span of time.
Maybe it sees a comparitively bigger boost upon release of an expansion, maybe not.
Rien
Jelly Belly
We will see who gets the last laugh here.
Also, you guys have gotta think that those likes were done before launch. It's not crazy for people to think a Bethesda game would be played for a decade before launch, looks at skyrim and fallout.... Still being played to this day.
It was a good assumption to make.
And double also, no one talks about spider man 2 at all, it's not even a conversation point anymore apart from someone making the odd comment about how woke it is.
Am just fucking with you man. I get you
Spitfire098
Member
Idk but if I had a history of very public Ls on a forum, I personally wouldn't be still trying to make bets on who will have the last laugh....
sankt-Antonio
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RE4 is a 20 years old game at its core and 15h long. With no replay value except its gameplay loop.In five months Resident Evil 4 lost 99% of its players, thus proving RE4 is shit (apparently).
I don't even like Starfield and have no desire to try it, but these arguments are silly.
We can also see RE4 picked up after its DLC released and/or got discounts, as you'd expect.
SF was supposed to be this grand rpg to rival Skyrim.
There is a difference in what expectations for these games where. The fact that Skyrim has twice the active player base 20 years after launch tells you everything you need to know about SF success.
vaibhavpisal
Member
You can also look at how many players their last big RPG, Fallout 4, retained in the same time frame:
Fallout 4 released in early November 2015 and still had around 45k players in early April 2016.
Whereas, Starfield released in early September 2023 but only retains around 10k players now.
Also add Fallout 76 to this.
I am playing it now, to see if Bethesda can update the game. Am assuming they have turned this around?
Its very Fallout 4 ish with map shared with 24 players. Does many things better than that even. Enjoying it.
EDMIX
Writes a lot, says very little
We will see who gets the last laugh here.
Also, you guys have gotta think that those likes were done before launch. It's not crazy for people to think a Bethesda game would be played for a decade before launch, looks at skyrim and fallout.... Still being played to this day.
It was a good assumption to make.
And double also, no one talks about spider man 2 at all, it's not even a conversation point anymore apart from someone making the odd comment about how woke it is.
The deep lolz, nah, you got to let this one go.
Even I questioned this as I want the data to support how often this occurs and....based on their past titles, this is too low for me to pretend as if magically something will change.
You can also look at how many players their last big RPG, Fallout 4, retained in the same time frame:
Fallout 4 released in early November 2015 and still had around 45k players in early April 2016.
Whereas, Starfield released in early September 2023 but only retains around 10k players now.
So...this is enough for me to see that this drop is much more compared its peers in the same time frame.
So shit, I like the game too, I got over 60 hours in it, easily my top 10 favorite game I played last year, but I got to go with the facts here. Starfield even on Steam isn't being well received and for people to stop playing like this to this degree kinda shows its not being accepted like those past Bethesda titles.
I'm sure many of us will keep playing it long term, shit I know I'll return for dat sweet DLC, but my argument is not that NO ONE , will play this game, merely that not to the same degree.
We got to just let this one go man and take the L, doesn't make Starfield any less of a game or something.
FoxMcChief
Gold Member
Not sure how that can be when GAF loved it so much.
Sybrix
Member
Remember when you played Skyrim and didnt stop playing it for a year....
Why you not doing this with Starfield?
Hohenheim
Member
I tried Skytim twice but bounced off. Finished Starfield.
Will probably play Skyrim again at some point, but definitly not for a whole year!!
JackMcGunns
Member
We’re just waiting for Shattered Space, the first big expansion that’s planned for this year. No specific date given. I wouldn’t call it damage control, it was planned all along.
SF is a single player game, without new content, why are people expecting more hours being played out of the game when it already broke several records? I put in over 700hrs myself, is that not enough or something? lol
Sybrix
Member
C'mon dude, you know the issues.
No in game map for towns/cities, the exploration is completly broken from previous Bethesda games, it's so stop start.
The variety in planets and cities/towns is so poor compared to Skyrim and Fallout.
Land on a planet/moon, same bases/camps, same enemies, variety is lacking.
In Skyrim & Fallout, you feel like your exploring a world. With Starfield, you're in a box then you jump to another box that looks the same as the last box..... wtf. From the studio that brought us Skyrim... really?
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adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
Yes, it's on the roadmap, they're working on the DLC and more updates to the game. Briefly mentioned in this Fallout show interview a couple of days ago.
The Big Fallout Interview: Todd Howard and Jonathan Nolan Answer Our Burning Questions About Season 1 - IGN
Now that Fallout Season 1 is out, IGN sits down with Jonathan Nolan and Bethesda's Todd Howard to talk all about Season 1's biggest revelations, the interconnected universe with the games, and their hopes for the future.
vaibhavpisal
Member
There is no plan out from Bethesda.
They are planning to release multiple expansions so that might add stuff you want. You should wait till they release everything for it and play final build.
Sybrix
Member
This is what im thinking, however GTA VI will be out by that time so i probably won't go back to Starfield.
It's sad, Skyrim is one of my most favorite games, Starfield was such a let down.
Heisenberg007
Gold Journalism
The final 1.0 build was released in Sep. 2023 and was sold at a full $70 price.
If/when they release expansions, that will just be extra stuff to be sold for extra dollars.
vaibhavpisal
Member
You don’t play many RPGs I take it?
Choose any big rpg from Bethesda, Larian, CDPR, Owlcat, final builds always come much later after release.
DAHGAMING
Member
Wow i thought that was a real pic from Govan in Glasgow for a second, had to look close to see its a game, we got that power over here on the X
