Starfield is the fifth fastest-selling game across Europe this year.
ShaiKhulud1989
Gold Member
Well, yeah. No shit, you have more Xbox consoles in the wild.
Dring's obsession to paint this as a huge success in daunting.
(It is also worth noting that the game has more days of tracking due to EA, FF XVI launch tracked for 4 days)
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Thick Thighs Save Lives
NeoGAF's Physical Games Advocate Extraordinaire
Forza Horizon 5 was a cross-gen game mate...
ShaiKhulud1989
Gold Member
And as we already saw with a lot of cross-gen games (HFW, GoWR), next-gen versions is like 90% of the pack.
Windle Poons
Made a crappy phPBB forum once ... once.
A single (song) needs to sell about 30,000 copies in a week to get to number 1 . To enter the 'top 10' it needs to sell about 12,000.
What is the return on games to enter the top 10?
What is the return on games to enter the top 10?
So? All I was saying is that your point about "more consoles in the wild" is bullshit, because Forza Horizon 5 was available for wider audience when it was released...
Nothing1234
Banned
There needs to be a column for days of tracking to be honest.
Killjoy-NL
Member
Lower than Star Wars Jedi: Survivor?
Superayate
Member
Be prepared that some haters will try to absolutely find a reason to concider this launch as a failure.
So it's behind every other major launch this year except for a remake and a game available on a single platform.
That counting the early access sales of the previous week in the same week and with no context given about the sales gap between what did better and what did worse.
No more comparison by Dring about how it sold like Diablo 4?
That counting the early access sales of the previous week in the same week and with no context given about the sales gap between what did better and what did worse.
No more comparison by Dring about how it sold like Diablo 4?
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ShaiKhulud1989
Gold Member
I have no horse in this race, but the data is skewed from the start by almost a week of additional tracking. Sorry for asking questions about your favorite pink elephant.
kazuyamishima
Member
From the creators of "player engagement" comes " week one" sales.
Yeah. Which is strange, since Game Pass game sold better then "successful" launch of Final Fantasy XVI...
Heisenberg007
Gold Journalism
I only realized/read that this is week-one sales only after I read your comment.
Heisenberg007
Gold Journalism
But if the tracking period is different, how can the sales be compared with other games?
Diablo IV and Hogwarts Legacy also had Early Access periods
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ShaiKhulud1989
Gold Member
Good for them. They are also higher. FFXVI didn't and was tracked for 4 days instead of 5+7.Diablo IV and Hogwarts Legacy also had Early Access periods
ShaiKhulud1989
Gold Member
Or one can argue that this thread is a perfect representation of this picture, you know. Doesn't matter due to staggered sales data anyway, everyone can push their own illusions to their hearts content. Because it is impossible to argue with the results when the goalposts are moved dynamically with every new sales-related tweet.
GigaBowser
The bear of bad news
TOTK only 1 without including digitals sales TOTK number 1
Chukhopops
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kazuyamishima
Member
Week 1 PC + Xbox.Must be why it's higher than FF16 I suppose?
It would looked really bad if it got beaten by 16, week one.
OmegaSupreme
advanced basic bitch
Wow. Fifth place. That's impressive to somebody, I'm sure.
Panajev2001a
GAF's Pleasant Genius
It is valid if people that are interested in it would buy it for the new console as otherwise they may just not buy it at all.
Doom85
Member
Chukhopops
Member
Many people were betting FF16 would outsell it because « who in their right mind would buy a game that's on GamePass? »
Now the goalposts are going to grav drive to another galaxy because the game didn't outsell Hogwarts, Diablo and Zelda, aka three gigantic licenses.
MidGenRefresh
*Refreshes biennially
Not a bad place to be for a new IP that's also day one on Game Pass.
-EUROPE, where XS user base is smaller.
-Gamepass game day one.
-Better launch for a new IP, I repeat, in Europe for a game that does not come out on PS5.
-It surpasses, I repeat, in Europe, releases like FFXVI and RE4 Remake that, here said, are a tops sale and a comercial win games being IPs established and recognized .
The data from the USA and the rest of the world will be interesting to evaluate with a certain basis, but it does not seem like the commercial failure that some defend that Starfield has been. Not to mention that, as is usually the case for Bethesda games, the game could have good legs and maintain a sales rate over the long term, especially with DLC expansions and mods.
-Gamepass game day one.
-Better launch for a new IP, I repeat, in Europe for a game that does not come out on PS5.
-It surpasses, I repeat, in Europe, releases like FFXVI and RE4 Remake that, here said, are a tops sale and a comercial win games being IPs established and recognized .
The data from the USA and the rest of the world will be interesting to evaluate with a certain basis, but it does not seem like the commercial failure that some defend that Starfield has been. Not to mention that, as is usually the case for Bethesda games, the game could have good legs and maintain a sales rate over the long term, especially with DLC expansions and mods.
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kazuyamishima
Member
I'm used to the "Gamepass drives games sales".
But now the narrative has changed, so which one is it?
ShaiKhulud1989
Gold Member
From the same Dring ,we already know that in retail FF16 outsold Starfield during clean week 1 in UK, even if FF16 tracked less days. Chart above includes almost a week of EA sales on top of additional tracking days. Yay, finally, it sold more!
I mean, sheesh, you need to skew the whole chart to somehow place Starfield in top-5. And BG3 is not even here, because it's digital-only.
Mr Reasonable
Completely Unreasonable
Widely reported to be $200m.
Someone here said that it would have made that back based on premium edition sales on steam and Xbox and premium edition upgrades for Gamepass players.
Mownoc
Member
Baldur's Gate 3 has been available to buy on Steam in early access since September 2020.
Tams
Member
Must be why it's higher than FF16 I suppose?
Well yeah, FF16 isn't a good game either.
Nothing1234
Banned
Larian don't share sales data.
ChuckeRearmed
Member
Impressive. Especiall if put in perspective that those are PC and Xbox only sales (while also being in Game Pass) and Xbox sales are not that big in Europe at all. I guess just like with Diablo, PC made the biggest chunk of sales there.
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L*][*N*K
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You can never win this kind of arguments, one time someone brought up Smash Bros. Ultimate vs. Spider-man and they (I shit you not) compared the sales figures of those two games to Motorstorm on PS3, because the first one sold like 5 million and the 2nd one sold something like 700k even though there were more PS3s "in the wild" for the 2nd game, they don't want to believe that people actually like Starfield and they don't care if the NPCs that have nothing to do with the game look like shit.
GHG
Member
I was going to post the 3rd place celebration meme image but then realised even that isn't appropriate.
Not tracked by GSD.
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Killjoy-NL
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harry mason 1989
Banned
Terrible numbers so far imo
???? He said RETAIL figures and the difference was short. He said that knowing the high% of digital sales of XS and PC sales Starfield should be above and closer to Diablo which, I remember, has a PS5 version.