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[Zathalus]

I still find it amazing that this review thread is 106 pages already. I don't recall any other game getting quite so far, especially when the game has not even been out for a month. It's pretty obvious why it has gone on so long though.

 

[GHG]

Fucking lol You just continue to show your ass.

Speaking of showing ones ass:

I don’t care about actual reviews of the game, at least they played it.

Why on God's green and blue earth did you come to the review thread then?

 

[cireza]

Since when is it against the rules to discuss a review in a review thread at that, of a highly anticipated game that was supposed to be the game of the generation.

I guess Phil was right after all, Starfield being an 11/10 won’t save Xbox.

Maybe a 7/10 game will? Or should you guys start hyping up the next release like you did for Redfall and Starfield?

I think this post is a good testimony of why you are here You are on constantly on the edge.

I don't care about people trying to take out enjoyment from others. It is a sad attitude, but a lot of people will do this anyway. However in your case, it has become impossible to not see the pattern. As far as I am concerned I don't come into threads for games I am not interested in, and I certainly wouldn't do this :

Your hidden passion about Starfield

The entirety of your posts being negative of course. What I see though is an obsessional attitude and can't help but wonder if this is actually good for your health.

It's only a game. Take care.

 

[Hero of Spielberg]

You've still not grown a thicker skin like I suggested I see

Didn’t @ you bro. Why you after me in Starfield threads?

 

[Hero of Spielberg]

Speaking of showing ones ass:



Why on God's green and blue earth did you come to the review thread then?

Because you lack comprehension… I don’t care if people have negative reviews of a game they have played. Nice gotcha tho

 

[Ass of Can Whooping]

Didn’t @ you bro. Why you after me in Starfield threads?

I contribute here unlike you and you're shitting it up.

Maybe it's time to get some introspection before you end up like your other friend who had a meltdown.

Also lol at thinking I'm after you. Are you daft

 

[geary]

TOTK whips this game to death. I can't believe the open world of a siix year old tablet is far better than this.

That's because you cannot point bugs in TOTK. Everything there is a feature, intended or not...

 

[vaibhavpisal]

I told everyones TOTKs seemeslessness would be a problem for Bethesda

I am known for my industry perdictions

Let's be fair though.

Everything you create disappears quickly in TOTK.

Quiet a steep price to pay for seamlessness.

 

[JTCx]

Not at all, there’s plenty of negatives judt like every other game. Just questioning why sone people are spending so much time with negative comments when they haven’t played it.

Have you played it?

This particular one bothers you and you already know why. We already see your angle and no one is falling for it.

And yes i have played the game. How much more upset does this make you?

 

[Hero of Spielberg]

This particular one bothers you and you already know why. We already see your angle and no one is falling for it.

And yes i have played the game. How much more upset does this make you?

Good for you for playing and having an opinion, I’m not referring to you

 

[Hero of Spielberg]

I contribute here unlike you and you're shitting it up.

Maybe it's time to get some introspection before you end up like your other friend who had a meltdown.

Also lol at thinking I'm after you. Are you daft

‘Contribute’

 

[Ass of Can Whooping]

‘Contribute’

I can see you still haven't learned after mods had to remove your comments in the early access thread

 

[Bernoulli]

I still find it amazing that this review thread is 106 pages already. I don't recall any other game getting quite so far, especially when the game has not even been out for a month. It's pretty obvious why it has gone on so long though.

i think it's because alot of outlets didn't get a review code so we haven't reached the final score

it's sad that there was a mistake with review codes distribution

 

[JTCx]

Good for you for playing and having an opinion, I’m not referring to you

The game sucks.

 

[Hero of Spielberg]

I can see you still haven't learned after mods had to remove your comments in the early access thread

I contribute in PS, PC and Xbox related threads with genuine conversation. Your ‘contributions’ nearly entirely consist of thinly veiled console war nonsense. I know I was out of line with my language in the comments I had removed, but I don’t contribute to negative discussion

 

[Hero of Spielberg]

The game sucks.

Cool, nice convo

 

[Ass of Can Whooping]

I contribute in PS, PC and Xbox related threads with genuine conversation. Your ‘contributions’ nearly entirely of thinly veiled console war nonsense. I know I was out of line with my language in the comments I had removed, but I don’t contribute to negative discussion

There's nothing wrong with negative discussion. Once again why I keep telling you to get thicker skin

 

[GymWolf]

Starfield's art style amounts to “what if Fallout had no aesthetic?” The city of Neon, which roughly amounts to a few dingy corridors, is Baby’s First Cyberpunk Town, a vapid recreation of the bright lights and garish billboards we’ve seen in countless sci-fi media. Various in-game factions are similarly weak facsimiles of existing stuff, robbed of charm and basic as possible. Many of the aliens resemble melted bug puppets from the set of Starship Troopers. None of the visuals stand out in the least.
lmao... Jim Sterling's review is perfect

Starfield - Empty Spaces (Review)

StarfieldReleased: September 6th, 2023 Developer: BethesdaPublisher: Bethesda SoftworksSystems: PC, Xbox Series S/X (reviewed)What does it say about a studio when the parent company proudly boasts that its latest software has fewer bugs than said studio's usual output? How...

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4/10

and I fucking agree. Game is ass.

I think the artstyle smash f4 aesthetic into smithereens tbh...

Graphical Fidelity I Expect This Gen

I truly don't understand why there are so many half measures that Bethesda took with Starfield. From no VATS, to the shoddy ship travel/combat, to NPC'S not reacting properly to things like stealing their goods. It comes across as either laziness or they cut development short. Very...

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https://www.neogaf.com/threads/todd-howard-says-starfield-is-already-optimized-you-might-need-to-upgrade-your-pc.1660763/post-268375008

But what do i know, if sterling say it's bad, it must be bad.

 

[Hero of Spielberg]

There's nothing wrong with negative discussion. Once again why I keep telling you to get thicker skin

Nothing wrong with it at all. Enjoy your negative convo for a game you won’t play

 

[Bernoulli]

I contribute in PS, PC and Xbox related threads with genuine conversation. Your ‘contributions’ nearly entirely consist of thinly veiled console war nonsense. I know I was out of line with my language in the comments I had removed, but I don’t contribute to negative discussion

forced positivity is also called toxic positivity

everyone can have on opinion on a game bad or good it doesn't matter

 

[Ass of Can Whooping]

Nothing wrong with it at all. Enjoy your negative convo for a game you won’t play

I probably have more hours in the game than you. But yeah keep pretending that you're fine with negative opinions from people who played the game. Your tears are apparent

 

[Hero of Spielberg]

forced positivity is also called toxic positivity

everyone can have on opinion on a game bad or good it doesn't matter

Of course you can, but if post hundreds of times about something being bad and you haven’t played it, what is your motivation?

 

[thuGG_pl]

the game has been datamined extensively and there is apparently some evidence that manual planetary landings were in the game at some point but got cut.

Does make me wonder if it will be coming in a future dlc or something

Manual Landing DLC - only 19.99$

 

[Zathalus]

i think it's because alot of outlets didn't get a review code so we haven't reached the final score

it's sad that there was a mistake with review codes distribution

It's got absolutely nothing to do with that. You don't go 100+ pages because you are waiting on more review scores.

It's very simple, if Bethesda was not bought out by Microsoft then this thread would have been a fraction of the size that it is. I'm not suggesting that the game would have reviewed any better or some nonsense like that (it's a Bethesda game, for better or worse). Just that certain obvious posters are dragging this out.

 

[Bernoulli]

Of course you can, but if post hundreds of times about something being bad and you haven’t played it, what is your motivation?

you talking about me? i did play the game but stopped, will play it again next year maybe

tbh people can get a good idea how a game is by just watching reviews and gameplay and that goes for any game out there, from a graphics, bugs and story point

gameplay is a bit harder from watching reviews only

 

[Hero of Spielberg]

you talking about me? i did play the game but stopped, will play it again next year maybe

tbh people can get a good idea how a game is by just watching reviews and gameplay and that goes for any game out there, from a graphics, bugs and story point

gameplay is a bit harder from watching reviews only

I’m not talking about you specifically.

And sure, if people want to discuss the quality of something on reviews only, that’s fine.

I just question why sone people on this forum are dedicating hundreds of posts to something they haven’t played and want to push any negative reviews of it.

 

[Bernoulli]

It's got absolutely nothing to do with that. You don't go 100+ pages because you are waiting on more review scores.

It's very simple, if Bethesda was not bought out by Microsoft then this thread would have been a fraction of the size that it is. I'm not suggesting that the game would have reviewed any better or some nonsense like that (it's a Bethesda game, for better or worse). Just that certain obvious posters are dragging this out.

i don't think it has something to do with MS because they didn't intervene that much in the making of the game, just like redfall
this game has been in the making for 25 years

Starfield: What Bethesda's "25 Years In The Making" Actually Means

Bethesda is being poetic with its 25 years claim.

screenrant.com

it had the biggest hype that i've ever seen in a few years and most people were saying it's the GOTG since the june gameplay without even playing it, i did fall for the hype close to launch and i definetly expected this to score 95

 

[Banjo64]

I’ve not seen a pounding like this since the porn I watched last night.

 

[Hero of Spielberg]

I probably have more hours in the game than you. But yeah keep pretending that you're fine with negative opinions from people who played the game. Your tears are apparent

Keep up the contributions bro

 

[Ass of Can Whooping]

I’ve not seen a pounding like this since the porn I watched last night.

Just wait until I stop using protection

 

[Bernoulli]

I’ve not seen a pounding like this since the porn I watched last night.

 

[vaibhavpisal]

it had the biggest hype that i've ever seen in a few years and most people were saying it's the GOTG since the june gameplay without even playing it, i did fall for the hype close to launch and i definetly expected this to score 95

Eh, game so far seems what I had hoped for.

GOTG and 95 meta are subjective stuff.

I don't get hyped these days to save myself from disappointment. But this is exactly what I wanted from it.

 

[Killjoy-NL]

I’m not talking about you specifically.

And sure, if people want to discuss the quality of something on reviews only, that’s fine.

I just question why sone people on this forum are dedicating hundreds of posts to something they haven’t played and want to push any negative reviews of it.

Same could be said about your defensive stance against anyone who has something negative to say.

You're pretty dedicated to downplay criticism in this thread.

Why not just ignore this thread and play the game?
I thought there was so much to do in Starfield?

 

[Forth]

As much as I don't like this guy, watch this review. It's the most on point review of Starfield I've read or watched and is exactly how I feel about it.

 

[ULTROS!]

Legit question but why did Ree close the review thread of Starfield and not FFXVI’s review thread? I mean both have the same melodrama.

 

[Hero of Spielberg]

Same could be said about your defensive stance against anyone who has something negative to say.

You're pretty dedicated to downplay criticism in this thread.

Why not just ignore this thread and play the game?
I thought there was so much to do in Starfield?

I’m just firing back while I cook dinner.

I’ll reiterate, I don’t care about genuine criticism, I have them myself.

I’m just asking those who spend so much time in these threads without playing.

Anyway, I already knew the answer, so I’ll put this thread on ignore and bail.

Enjoy discussing the game you don’t like

 

[CosmicComet]

If it's at 87 now this early then there is a great chance it will drop to 84-86 when all is said and done.

After seeing the limitations of this game it really does seem like No Man's Sky (in it's current form) is the better space game, if you can forgive the lack of strong narrative.

Yep, called it. Sitting at 85.

That being said I didn't account for Jimquistion torpedoing it down with a 4/10...not a fan of that outlet.

I was just expecting a slew more of 7s to drag it down.

 

[Ass of Can Whooping]

Keep up the contributions bro

Sorry I can't hear all your crying among my 90+ hours of playtime

 

[foamdino]

Crikey, there's some manufactured drama in here. There are reviews - some outliers, some ridiculous. This is a review thread for one of the most highly anticipated games of the year (at least before release it was hyped to be the most highly anticipated, I don't know if there are any new marching orders on that front). Of course there's going to be discussion around some of these reviews. Some reviewers will do the whole "low score for clicks <giggle>", but others seem to have genuine issues that are covered in the text/video of the review and are *valid* criticisms of a set of game mechanics that haven't evolved in *decades*.

Prior to release I said don't get too hyped it will be a BGS game - Skyrim/Fallout4 in space - that's it.

So after release it's actually probably not even as good as Skyrim and it has a terrible "gate fun parts of your build behind perk challenges" mechanic, and the start is slower than other BGS games, and the writing is not very good and the animations are wooden - and people/reviewers are rightly comparing this to other games in the same genre - both past RPGs made by BGS and modern CRPGs or ActionRPGs (BG3, Cyberpunk/Witcher3) and they're quite fairly pointing out that Starfield seems to be behind the current standards/expectations for a good/great RPG these days.

I think all these criticisms are fair - which make the 97/100 etc reviews seems sus - 7/10 is a fair score, not an outlier, clickbait score, a *fair* score when you compare Starfield to many games that have released over the last 3 years or so. It seems BGS just haven't kept up with their industry peers.

I bought it, am currently playing it, but my boy has bounced off to restart No Man's Sky and I'm thinking of parking Starfield to go back and finish my Cyberpunk run (and continue with BG3) - it really should have captivated people, but it is slow, it is full of glitches, it doesn't seem polished compared to other games - these are facts, not console wars nonsense.

 

[Banjo64]

Legit question but why did Ree close the review thread of Starfield and not FFXVI’s review thread? I mean both have the same melodrama.

Their mods are on the M$ good-boy points system.

 

[harry mason 1989]

Legit question but why did Ree close the review thread of Starfield and not FFXVI’s review thread? I mean both have the same melodrama.

Cuz the reeee mods want to protect that Tom warren guy

 

[damidu]

Cool. Is that why you dedicate so much time to discussing lesser games?

give it a go, you are completely losing it.
it was sad for a while, now starting to get scary
go play starfield or something

 

[Killjoy-NL]

I’m just firing back while I cook dinner.

I’ll reiterate, I don’t care about genuine criticism, I have them myself.

I’m just asking those who spend so much time in these threads without playing.

Anyway, I already knew the answer, so I’ll put this thread on ignore and bail.

Enjoy discussing the game you don’t like

"Firing back..."

So, you take criticism about Starfield as a personal attack?
I think that's the problem here: people needing validation for something they enjoy.

 

[yazenov]

Legit question but why did Ree close the review thread of Starfield and not FFXVI’s review thread? I mean both have the same melodrama.

Because a lot of people's feelings were hurt whenever the game score kept on going down with each updated review coming in, as evident in this very thread with some of the posters here.

Those initial hand-picked review outlets by MS didn't represent the actual review score the game deserves, so they just closed the thread before the real scores came in that represented the actual quality of the game. Such a cowardly act.

 

[BlueLyria]

Big "Leave the trillion dollar company alone" vibe going on here. Kinda sad.
Of course there was going to be a lot of discussion here, regardless of Microsoft buying Bethesda or not, it's a big release, a new ip from a beloved developer and their first game in 8 years(I think?)
And it doesn't help that the outlets that were allowed to review the game early were very curated.
Btw, I did play the game, it's severely broken on PC and it crashes constantly, and according to Todd I have to upgrade my machine, even though his game is entirely instance based, has the same logic as any of their older games and doesn't look half as good as modern games. (Inb4 works on my machine)

 

[Giallo Corsa]

Want to make 1 thing clear :
I lost all interest in Bethesda games after Skyrim, meaning, I don't have a horse in this race and therefore , I don't care whether this is a good or a bad game.
In the end, some people will enjoy it while others won't and that's that - it happens with every game and its not anything new.

Watching the reactions and constant bickering between members in here though I can't help but ask :
Why is it always the same thing with Xbox exclusives and not with Sony or Nintendo games ? Or PC exclusives for that matter ?
It can't be all due to a big conspiracy® like "some" are suggesting, instead the most easy explanation is that this kind of drama® revolves around Xbox exclusives due to MS's hype machine and PR work literally affecting their fan base.

- Happened with Halo infinite
- Happened with Hifi Rush (an actual good game but definitely not GOTY material like many were suggesting)
- Happened with Redfall
- It's now happening with Starfield.

I still remember mentioning Redfall looking...not good a couple of months back which was met with the usual " lol/Sony pony/etc" by the usual crowd in here - not that the narrative was any different in various other online forums.
You can also notice the same, hyper-aggressive defence force /PR spin by the - ahem - paid or not "PR specialists" like C.Eastwood, the Corden dude etc...

Basically, the drama surrounding their games/products is self-inflicted and of their own making, everything has to always be about other people's/companies' fault, everyone is out to "get them", everyone is just being "negative" or "toxic" when don't fall 100% in line with their products and so on so forth - it's strange but it feels like this whole brand/company is built around this kind of toxic fandom where it attracts all these hyper defensive and aggressive characters out of the woodwork.

It feels like the hardcore fans really need some kind of desperate "win" against the "enemy" as to rub it in their faces in a "see ? look at us now ! " stupid scenario...

Again, people can say whatever they want about Sony and Ninty but, their "fans" are not eating everything up that their respective PR machine throw at them - look at the most recent Sony related threads - people ARE shitting on them regarding the ridiculous PS plus increase, their new focus towards GaaS games, the (apparently) worthless incoming streaming handheld etc etc - same with Nintendo, people shat on them regarding the joycon drift thing for months, the lackluster and barebones experience regarding their online platform , the dated hardware etc etc, meanwhile, you absolutely can't be critical when it comes to anything MS related 'cause otherwise you'll be branded a Sony Pony, Ninty-sperg etc.

People can and should be critical about anything and anyone, no one should be above it.

TLDNR : there's a reason why there's always "toxicity" and "drama" surrounding anything MS related - be it their games or hardware and that's due to both over promising and underdelivering and their rabid fan base which for the past 3+ years have been wanting/needing a desperate win.

PS : Starfield reactions would have been exactly the same even if it was multi-platform, it's a Bethesda game after all, I don't know what people where expecting

 

[ulantan]

Want to make 1 thing clear :
I lost all interest in Bethesda games after Skyrim, meaning, I don't have a horse in this race and therefore , I don't care whether this is a good or a bad game.
In the end, some people will enjoy it while others won't and that's that - it happens with every game and its not anything new.

Watching the reactions and constant bickering between members in here though I can't help but ask :
Why is it always the same thing with Xbox exclusives and not with Sony or Nintendo games ? Or PC exclusives for that matter ?
It can't be all due to a big conspiracy® like "some" are suggesting, instead the most easy explanation is that this kind of drama® revolves around Xbox exclusives due to MS's hype machine and PR work literally affecting their fan base.

- Happened with Halo infinite
- Happened with Hifi Rush (an actual good game but definitely not GOTY material like many were suggesting)
- Happened with Redfall
- It's now happening with Starfield.

I still remember mentioning Redfall looking...not good a couple of months back which was met with the usual " lol/Sony pony/etc" by the usual crowd in here - not that the narrative was any different in various other online forums.
You can also notice the same, hyper-aggressive defence force /PR spin by the - ahem - paid or not "PR specialists" like C.Eastwood, the Corden dude etc...

Basically, the drama surrounding their games/products is self-inflicted and of their own making, everything has to always be about other people's/companies' fault, everyone is out to "get them", everyone is just being "negative" or "toxic" when don't fall 100% in line with their products and so on so forth - it's strange but it feels like this whole brand/company is built around this kind of toxic fandom where it attracts all these hyper defensive and aggressive characters out of the woodwork.

It feels like the hardcore fans really need some kind of desperate "win" against the "enemy" as to rub it in their faces in a "see ? look at us now ! " stupid scenario...

Again, people can say whatever they want about Sony and Ninty but, their "fans" are not eating everything up that their respective PR machine throw at them - look at the most recent Sony related threads - people ARE shitting on them regarding the ridiculous PS plus increase, their new focus towards GaaS games, the (apparently) worthless incoming streaming handheld etc etc - same with Nintendo, people shat on them regarding the joycon drift thing for months, the lackluster and barebones experience regarding their online platform , the dated hardware etc etc, meanwhile, you absolutely can't be critical when it comes to anything MS related 'cause otherwise you'll be branded a Sony Pony, Ninty-sperg etc.

People can and should be critical about anything and anyone, no one should be above it.

TLDNR : there's a reason why there's always "toxicity" and "drama" surrounding anything MS related - be it their games or hardware and that's due to both over promising and underdelivering and their rabid fan base which for the past 3+ years have been wanting/needing a desperate win.

PS : Starfield reactions would have been exactly the same even if it was multi-platform, it's a Bethesda game after all, I don't know what people where expecting

There is definitely an unhealthy relationship between xbox and the hype machines they create. I honestly think it hurts the games they put out, Because it always seems like you have to walk on egg shells critiquing them.

 

[Flutta]

"7 free Xbox's"
Seeing a certain pattern here.

It’s basically a bribe using toys instead of money.

Imagine someone giving you free stuff all the time your psyche will force you to to overlook their shortcommings or sometimes their bad behavior. It’s psychology 101. These companies know what they are doing

 

[Hero of Spielberg]

I think I might have triggered someone
Banjo64 is triggered too
BlueLyria is triggered too

 

[demigod]

Dunno if anyone else already posted this, but absolute LOL. Bro is coping sea salt over the ban but even without it he'd be too scared to post



Oh wow geez darn shucks darnit snap, you really got us there!

It's not like I can't tell the difference between an international celebrity obviously doing product placement, vs. no-name content creators who suck at acting trying to lie about a product given to them for free.

Nope. Virtually impossible to tell the difference /s.

Whichever mod permed this moron deserves a medal.