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[404games]

3 of the 13 posts in your GAF career. Keep trying. One of them is bound to stick.

"starbox"
since a star-field gives one the impression that its open and not bounded & constrained like in a box
...also a play on "skybox", "if you see it you can go there"... except you can't

 

[SEGAvangelist]

"starbox"
since a star-field gives one the impression that its open and not bounded & constrained like in a box
...also a play on "skybox", "if you see it you can go there"... except you can't

I love that your rebrands are so bad that they need explanation.

 

[Kilau]

"starbox"
since a star-field gives one the impression that its open and not bounded & constrained like in a box
...also a play on "skybox", "if you see it you can go there"... except you can't

Strike four

 

[Gamezone]

I'm surprised people needed some time to realise that Starfield isn't much better than a 6/10.

 

[SEGAvangelist]

Its

I'm surprised people needed some time to realise that Starfield isn't much better than a 6/10.

It's actually over 33% better than that!

 

[Gudji]

They finally got Ass of can Whooping, score definitely is going up now.

 

[Kilau]

starbox I'd rate it a solid 7/10

starload, that's a solid 9/10:
1) loading screens which ruin the flow of the game
2) ridiculous load encumbrance makes the game a chore (individual carry & ship)
3) load as in copious amounts of crap (i.e. loading more boring procedurally generated content)
4) load as in the "sticky white stuff" from folks who blew their load based on the 10/10 early review scores and can't accept the games-flaws

Be careful, you are going to get your main banned.

 

[JohnnyFootball]

I'm surprised people needed some time to realise that Starfield isn't much better than a 6/10.

I consider it a 7/10 game. I got all the achievements and put a lot of time into it. I don't consider a 7/10 game to be bad. Starfield wasn't bad by any means. It did a lot of things well, but it completely missed the mark in what I love about Bethesda games. For me, exploration sucked. Far too many loading screens. I have no hesitation recommending it to anyone who has enjoyed Bethesda games. Sadly, I don't think it will move the needle in terms of Gamepass uptake.

 

[SEGAvangelist]

starbox I'd rate it a solid 7/10

starload, that's a solid 9/10:
1) loading screens which ruin the flow of the game
2) ridiculous load encumbrance makes the game a chore (individual carry & ship)
3) load as in copious amounts of crap (i.e. loading more boring procedurally generated content)
4) load as in the "sticky white stuff" from folks who blew their load based on the 10/10 early review scores and can't accept the games-flaws

Your persistence is inspiring.

 

[S0ULZB0URNE]

 

[S0ULZB0URNE]

Your persistence is inspiring.

It's a review thread

 

[Gavon West]

I've understood why so many have a hard on for Starfield. I just didn't know it would last this long. Must be painful....

 

[Topher]

"starbox"
since a star-field gives one the impression that its open and not bounded & constrained like in a box
...also a play on "skybox", "if you see it you can go there"... except you can't

 

[j0hnnix]

Just got to the entangled quest line.
Will probably start it today and hoping before dinner time have it untangled.

I have really enjoyed the game and loved the whole crimson fleet / sysdef line. Started off not liking this game, uninstalled it but co-worker kept wanting me to give it another chance glad i did. I personally still do not like the whole menu layout and *jumping* back and forth with the inventory and the map just to get to quests eww. i know main line is selected under character but just does not click with me , I've adjusted to just dealing with it.

 

[The Cockatrice]

Excited for this.

 

[amigastar]

It's here:

 

[Katatonic]

It's here:

Damn that game looks ugly as sin.

 

[ChoosableOne]

It's here:

Part about Sam was great lol Conan looks older than Jim Ryan, when did that happen?

 

[amigastar]

Part about Sam was great lol Conan looks older than Jim Ryan, when did that happen?

He looks old indeed in this video. Maybe no makeup?

 

[ChoosableOne]

He looks old indeed in this video. Maybe no makeup?

He probably made a deal with AMD

 

[rhodesianshepard]

He looks old indeed in this video. Maybe no makeup?

he is 60 lol

 

[skit_data]

It's here:

Is the framerate like this when streaming to other devices in general or is the capture just crappy?

 

[rhodesianshepard]

It's here:

Is the gameplay at 6:07 real? I have never played Starfield but holy shit that looks like something out of the PS3 era

 

[Gtafans93]

Cant wait to see all the youtubers hating on the game to do a 180 and start loving it early next year when the expansion/s? and mods come out.

 

[S0ULZB0URNE]

Cant wait to see all the youtubers hating on the game to do a 180 and start loving it early next year when the expansion/s? and mods come out.

You think so?

 

[graywolf323]

Cant wait to see all the youtubers hating on the game to do a 180 and start loving it early next year when the expansion/s? and mods come out.

 

[ultrazilla]

Some quick points-

-My biggest disappointment of 2023 and IMO one of my biggest disappointments in gaming on my 51 years on this planet. Put a little over 84 hours into it and found myself most of the time just walking aimlessly on pretty much barren planets with key travel locations being a random fucking cave.

-Don't even get me started about the DLSS fiasco and "exclusivity".

-Most of the characters were annoying, many of the locations were underwhelming and the story was probably decided upon by an ai prompt. I mean, a hero's journey about what life/death/your place in the universe is.

It was cringe IMO.

-The graphics were average at best.

-The music was a surprise standout as were *a few* and I mean just a *few* quest lines that played out pretty neat.

-Otherwise it just felt terribly average. No real "wow factor" to keep me engaged nor wanting to return to it. At this point, the DLC could straight up rip off the original Star Wars movies beat for beat(which
I freaking love) and I *still* wouldn't reinstall it.

50/100

 

[Ocean Dweller]

beat it and uninspiring

 

[Gamer_By_Proxy]

Some quick points-

-My biggest disappointment of 2023 and IMO one of my biggest disappointments in gaming on my 51 years on this planet. Put a little over 84 hours into it and found myself most of the time just walking aimlessly on pretty much barren planets with key travel locations being a random fucking cave.

-Don't even get me started about the DLSS fiasco and "exclusivity".

-Most of the characters were annoying, many of the locations were underwhelming and the story was probably decided upon by an ai prompt. I mean, a hero's journey about what life/death/your place in the universe is.

It was cringe IMO.

-The graphics were average at best.

-The music was a surprise standout as were *a few* and I mean just a *few* quest lines that played out pretty neat.

-Otherwise it just felt terribly average. No real "wow factor" to keep me engaged nor wanting to return to it. At this point, the DLC could straight up rip off the original Star Wars movies beat for beat(which
I freaking love) and I *still* wouldn't reinstall it.

50/100

I figured this out in about 3 hours with the game. I feel sorry for your time loss.
The logo and theme music is all I think is great with the game.

 

[Ronin_7]

Cant wait to see all the youtubers hating on the game to do a 180 and start loving it early next year when the expansion/s? and mods come out.

It's bad.

 

[ultrazilla]

I figured this out in about 3 hours with the game. I feel sorry for your time loss.
The logo and theme music is all I think is great with the game.

I think my problem was that I was continually looking for "wow, that was cool and memorable" moments/set pieces. Like exploring a distant planet to find an amazing say-lost robotic civilization deep in a planet's core? Something really cool. Instead I was just pointing my character in a direction and running for what seemed like hours(well, I guess they *were* hours lol) to come across a random cave or spaceship landing.

I guess I was looking for an awesome "pay off" for exploring or continuing to explore the game's universe because Bethesda hyped it up so much. I figured after all the time it spent in development, there surely would be some freaking epic moments!? I'll take much of the blame for getting sucked into the hype. I should have known better. Sigh.

Agreed again on the music, loved the soundtrack and the actual logo aesthetics-I dig stuff like that from a design standpoint:

 

[struggler_guts]

Starfield wasn't bad by any means.

By ANY means?

 

[LordCBH]

Cant wait to see all the youtubers hating on the game to do a 180 and start loving it early next year when the expansion/s? and mods come out.

Is the expansion gonna add some oomph and wow to this game? Will it make exploration not suck camel dick?
Best part of the game by far are the curated areas like the main cities. I quite like those. But holy shit everything outside those curated areas is ass.

 

[Mibu no ookami]

It hasn't been out for more than 3 months and the game is already discounted from 70 dollars to 55 dollars.

 

[ReBurn]

It hasn't been out for more than 3 months and the game is already discounted from 70 dollars to 55 dollars.

Maybe instead of a discount they should be giving it away for free if you buy a console.

 

[Ristifer]

beat it and uninspiring

But what about the game?

 

[Bumblebeetuna]

It hasn't been out for more than 3 months and the game is already discounted from 70 dollars to 55 dollars.

how do holiday sales work

 

[Mibu no ookami]

how do holiday sales work

Takes a look at Spider-Man and Super Mario Wonder...

 

[adamsapple]

Takes a look at Spider-Man and Super Mario Wonder...

Marvel’s Spider-Man 2 is free when you buy a PS5

Not a bad way to phase out the original PS5 model

www.polygon.com

 

[Mibu no ookami]

Marvel’s Spider-Man 2 is free when you buy a PS5

Not a bad way to phase out the original PS5 model

www.polygon.com

To boost console sales, but the game itself is not discounted.

Microsoft didn't even bother to make an official Starfield bundle for XSX and you've got to wonder why, but the answer is pretty obvious.

 

[adamsapple]

To boost console sales, but the game itself is not discounted.

and?

They're giving the game away for free. Starfield is having a holiday discount like thousand(s) of other games are.

Also didn't you have me on your ignore list?

 

[Bumblebeetuna]

Takes a look at Spider-Man and Super Mario Wonder...

You mean the Spider-Man being bundled with PS5 right now? And when you have to compare to a Nintendo game…

MW3 was on holiday sales and it will move millions.

 

[Bumblebeetuna]

Marvel’s Spider-Man 2 is free when you buy a PS5

Not a bad way to phase out the original PS5 model

www.polygon.com

 

[Mibu no ookami]

Man you guys are hilarious.

One company is boosting sales of their ecosystem via bundling and the other is discounting a game for existing and new consumers.

If you can't tell the difference between the two you've too far-gone.

Maybe if you try to explain why Spider-Man 2 and Mario Wonder aren't individually discounted but Forza and Starfield are... Why is there no official Forza or Starfield bundle this holiday season?

 

[havoc00]

Man you guys are hilarious.

One company is boosting sales of their ecosystem via bundling and the other is discounting a game for existing and new consumers.

If you can't tell the difference between the two you've too far-gone.

Maybe if you try to explain why Spider-Man 2 and Mario Wonder aren't individually discounted but Forza and Starfield are... Why is there no official Forza or Starfield bundle this holiday season?

Nintendo hardly ever does discounts let alone a month after a games release

 

[Mibu no ookami]

Nintendo hardly ever does discounts let alone a month after a games release

Most companies don't, especially for successful games.

 

[adamsapple]

Most companies don't, especially for successful games.

Modern Warfare 3 has been the top selling game on PSN and XBL since it launched and it also got a $10 discount.

You're making a bad analogy, plain and simple.

 

[Bumblebeetuna]

Man you guys are hilarious.

One company is boosting sales of their ecosystem via bundling and the other is discounting a game for existing and new consumers.

If you can't tell the difference between the two you've too far-gone.

Maybe if you try to explain why Spider-Man 2 and Mario Wonder aren't individually discounted but Forza and Starfield are... Why is there no official Forza or Starfield bundle this holiday season?

What a bizarre hill to die on. You even go on to say “successful games” don’t do this. Who knew Call of Duty games are failures every year.

So doing a discount during the holidays, which every company does, is bad news about the games success. But giving the game away free, oh well that’s just good business!

Again, laughably bad take. There are plenty of reasons to shit post about Starfield. A Black Friday sale isn’t one of them.

Also why would they make holiday bundles for those games when every console comes with GamePass, and those games are on GamePass?

 

[Mibu no ookami]

What a bizarre hill to die on. You even go on to say “successful games” don’t do this. Who knew Call of Duty games are failures every year.

So doing a discount during the holidays, which every company does, is bad news about the games success. But giving the game away free, oh well that’s just good business!

Again, laughably bad take. There are plenty of reasons to shit post about Starfield. A Black Friday sale isn’t one of them.

Also why would they make holiday bundles for those games when every console comes with GamePass, and those games are on GamePass?

What a bizarre response.

Big games always come out for the holidays, but they are rarely discounted within a couple of months of releasing, black friday or otherwise.

The idea that bundling the game with a console is giving it away for free is also puzzling. Neither is the game free nor is the console discounted. It's an entirely different marketing approach. If the game was free, you'd expect there to be a PS5 sold for 430 dollars without the game right? But that isn't the case. The base PS5 is still being sold for the same price and the base game is still being sold for the same price. The bundle is to entice you to buy into the ecosystem.

There is a distinct difference, but clearly you guys aren't going to pick up on that. I just watched a few videos on youtube and I'm convinced now that there are people who don't want to have anywhere close to a decent conversation about the economics of this.

They still have a Forza Horizon bundle despite Forza Horizon coming with GamePass. Not ever bundle includes GamePass.

 

[Bumblebeetuna]

What a bizarre response.

Big games always come out for the holidays, but they are rarely discounted within a couple of months of releasing, black friday or otherwise.

The idea that bundling the game with a console is giving it away for free is also puzzling. Neither is the game free nor is the console discounted. It's an entirely different marketing approach. If the game was free, you'd expect there to be a PS5 sold for 430 dollars without the game right? But that isn't the case. The base PS5 is still being sold for the same price and the base game is still being sold for the same price. The bundle is to entice you to buy into the ecosystem.

There is a distinct difference, but clearly you guys aren't going to pick up on that. I just watched a few videos on youtube and I'm convinced now that there are people who don't want to have anywhere close to a decent conversation about the economics of this.

They still have a Forza Horizon bundle despite Forza Horizon coming with GamePass. Not ever bundle includes GamePass.

Like I said, discounting a game, as all companies do this time of year, bad!

Giving the game away free with your console, amazing.

Also Starfield is $55 on the Xbox holiday sale. You’re making this big distinction about Spider-Man 2 bundles being to “get you in the system”, you’re already in the system if you’re shopping the Xbox store for discounted digital games.

When you obnoxiously mentioned Spider-Man and Mario, did you just forget Sony is literally giving the game away for free right now? Be better. This is absolute nonsense.