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Steam Summer Sales Thread: remember: you can actually play after buying

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Kalnos

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Amneisac said:
Darkness is your enemy, and so you're managing your oil for your lamp constantly to keep from going crazy.

It can be, but sometimes when there is stuff roaming around darkness is the better of two evils.
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Salsa

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Aeana said:
In The Last Remnant, instead of controlling individual characters in battle, you control unions (parties) of several characters at once. It's kind of hard to explain, but the battles are very large-scale and no it isn't really like anything else out there, and no it isn't like Grandia's at all.

Here's some battle footage: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZvOSZ_hJ6bY

god dammit Aeana i almost have no money damn youuuuuuuuu
 

Gvaz

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REV 09 said:
holding shift to walk is retarded, and running all the time is equally off putting. third person action games are not better with m/kb because of their binary, unintuitive walk/run system. Play Uncharted 2 for reference. The Witcher 2 was much better with the controller too.
1. there is no reason to walk, ever
2. the "running" is more of a jog and the sprinting should be tied to shift and be able to do it al the time.

I've never played Uncharted 2 but they actually are, in almost every case.

Batman AA, The Witcher 2, Just Cause 2, Red Faction: G, Mass Effect. These work with a controller adequately, but:

You're able to move more accurately and smoother, whereas the controller slows you down and reduces your accuracy.

I can think of only two examples on the PC where a controller is better: Driving games and AssBro. The latter because ubisoft gave it a fucking AWFUL control scheme for KB/M and fuck if I'm spending ten minutes reassigning keys on a console port.

Though maybe I'm biased because while I still play console games in every situation I prefer them to be on the PC instead because I can use a KB/m and have better graphics.
 

Dambrosi

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Universe Sandbox looks like too much of a virtual executive toy to me, so I just bought FO3: GOTY and TLR (while the demo I'd forgotten about was still downloading, fml). Also, made by the SaGa team? Yup, playing with a walkthrough on this one.

Gods, I'm gonna need a new hard drive. Good thing they're cheap nowadays.
 

Stallion Free

Cock Encumbered
REV 09 said:
holding shift to walk is retarded, and running all the time is equally off putting. third person action games are not better with m/kb because of their binary, unintuitive walk/run system. Play Uncharted 2 for reference. The Witcher 2 was much better with the controller too.
Wait you seriously wanted to walk places in ME1 instead of running?
 

Gvaz

Banned
Lanbeast said:
You'll probably like it twice as much. I did, anyway. In the earlier ones I felt like I should start over when I got caught, this one provides a pretty easy way to fix the situation.
That's also why a lot of people think the game is worse. (I don't mean me personally, but rather the complaints the fans of the series have made)

For fans of the series, conviction is easily the worst.
 

Bentendo

Member
What are the winter sales like? Do they take over a week to finish or are they just a couple of days? Also, are the deals any good?
 

Mr_Zombie

Member
Deadstar said:
Could someone explain how this worms is different from Worms Armageddon (the best worms game)?

I used to love worms but the xbox versions really put me off since they barely included any weapons and landscapes.

Take Worms Armageddon...
- remove cool weapons (but add other interesting weapons)
- remove the simple yet functional menus that used self-explanatory icons and replace it with fugly yellow text menus; also, what took one screen in WA and WPP now takes lots and lots of screens (previously you could set up all weapons on one screen, now you have to switch through every fucking weapon to change its power and delay)
- remove the simple GUI and replace it with huge buttons (seriously, weapon menu takes whole fucking screen even though there's less weapons)
- reduce number of worms per team
- reduce number of teams per map
- make missions less interesting (I remember WA having funny mission descriptions; now it's usually just: defeat enemy team)
- make training less interesting and reduce number of training missions
- make post-match statistics less interesting
- add hats and different winning animations
- add pretty graphics
...

Yeah, compared to WA and WWP it's a disappointing game full of bugs. But it's a 2D Worms game, so that alone makes it a funny game.
 
Not even two pages ago I declared I was done with the Steam sale after buying Amnesia.
Fuck me... Just picked up F3 and both MEs after reading recommendations on Reddit. Will now also be picking up Assassin Creed 2 on recap day...

GG trollSteam. You win. WP.

Just gotta keep telling myself that I'll play these games eventually...
 
Man, I'm probably going to get Fallout 3 GOTY. I played the vanilla version on 360, borrowed from a friend. Does the DLC add a lot to it? Oh man, Mods too.

I have New Vegas installed and have never played it. I could probably wait until the Christmas sale for 3 GotY, though then I'll have Skyrim...

CONFLICT.
 

Spl1nter

Member
Gvaz said:
Batman AA, The Witcher 2, Just Cause 2, Red Faction: G, Mass Effect. These work with a controller adequately, but:

I just bought Just Cause 2 and it is pretty bad with a kb/m. Im going to try with a controller and hopefully it is better.
 

Teknoman

Member
Aeana said:
In The Last Remnant, instead of controlling individual characters in battle, you control unions (parties) of several characters at once. It's kind of hard to explain, but the battles are very large-scale and no it isn't really like anything else out there, and no it isn't like Grandia's at all.

Here's some battle footage: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZvOSZ_hJ6bY

Aeana said:


You really dont want me to finish Dragon Quest VII do you?
 

Veitsev

Member
Bentendo said:
What are the winter sales like? Do they take over a week to finish or are they just a couple of days? Also, are the deals any good?

They are just as good as the summer and they last most of December.
 
Wow I didn't expect a JRPG to be the talk of Summer Camp day 9. Looks great on PC, but I think I'm going to pass and finally pick up Amnesia. I have no idea why I didn't pick it up on the potato day sale, but I'm not missing it now. I'm sure I'll like it, after all I did play Ju-On: The Grudge on Wii to completion... twice... and liked it.
 

Yasae

Banned
Anybody who mentions The Last Remnant in discussion is required to mention the substantial changes it got on PC.

Battle

-Allies now have the option to cure a friendly union's curse status ailment via "Cure them even if it kills them!" command. (this command is in the XBOX 360 version as well, but is only available when the union is enthralled - it will not be available when the union is cursed)
-Arcana require substantially more AP.
-Attributes required for formation upgrades are vastly different.
-Crimson Flare, a new arcana, is now available.
-Enemies hit considerably harder and have higher HP.
-Healing no longer raises morale.
-Morale increased by Critical Hits has been dramatically reduced.
-Linking additional enemies together does not increase your Battle Rank further than having fought them separately.
-New formations now available, such as Eremurus Rain.
-Special commands, such as the use of David's Gae Bolg, are no longer interrupted by being raidlocked by a different union or having targeted enemy union defeated by an ally.
-Turbo Mode is now available, which dramatically increases combat speed when enabled.
-Unique Arts now require AP.
-Remnant Arts can only be performed by union leader, Weapon Arts now require high union morale.
-Wards now affect the entire union.
-Rare Monsters have significantly higher HP than their XBOX 360 counterparts.

Items

-Components and consumables are now categorized.
-Creation or customization of some items require fewer components.
-Items are now color-coded based on their rarity.
-New items available via Blueprint 4.
-Weapon's model can be displayed when viewing its stats.
-Weapon's stats have changed.
-Some very rare monster specific drops can now be split from these monsters as well (Godwood Timber, Spiritwood Timber).

Leaders

-The leader limit is no longer imposed.
-The stat cap has been lifted for all characters to allow a maximum of 255 for each stat.
-Rush can now be removed from the active party.
-Khrynia learns a new Unique Art: Dual Snowpetal.
-Leaders' arts can be disabled, filtering which skills the unit may use in combat.
-Leaders' requested components are displayed when viewing their stats.
-Leaders' wield style can be changed depending on their weapon.
-Some classes will prevent wield style changes in battle now, as well as shields.
-The experience required to advance Wield Style skills has been reduced, and the experience required to advance Weapon Type skills has been increased.
-Three new classes are now available: Ataraxian, Cleric, and Ninja.
-The Guardian, Fencer, and Warrior classes now require non-sovani wield styles and are thus not available to Sovani.
-The Gladiator class now requires Power Grip and Wards.
-Hybrid classes can now be achieved by units who do not start in one.
-Some leaders now have a different weapon upgrade path, which caused some units to learn new Weapon Arts while others lost theirs.
-Some leaders request weapons that do not coincide with their weapon upgrade path.
-Some leaders have had their starting class, equipment, arts, and hiring wage changed.
-The Seven are recruitable after completing Union of the Golden Chalice Task #70: For Our Lord.

Sidequests

-At Hatred's End is no longer required in order to activate Things Unchangeable.
-Duke of Ghor now has a … when you speak with him between base battles.
-The Assistant's component requirements have lowered.
-The DLC content is now unlocked differently, with the majority requiring the completion of certain guild tasks.
-The Leader Extraordinaire guild tasks requiring three units of a single class now only require one.
-The Monsterslayer guild tasks require different enemies to be defeated.

New Game+

-New Game+ is an option available after having completed the game's storyline.
-The following are carried over to the new game: components, formations, magazines, maps, Mr. Diggs's status (including his Digs count), customization level, and items that unlock arts for Rush (effectively Rush gains the first tier of those arts). You will also begin with a certain amount of gold based on the number of quests you have completed.
-Additionally, Hard Mode is available in which monsters are considerably stronger than their counterparts in normal difficulty.
-Monsters have less HP in Hard Mode.

Miscellaneous

-Auto Save is now available, which automatically saves after having changed zones or having won a battle.
-Battle Rank viewable outside of combat in main menu.
-Characters with … are now identified with markers on the map.
-Enemies can no longer be respawned by saving and reloading in the next area.
-New saving opportunities are now available, such as before the base's boss.
-Units in reserve no longer gain skills.
-A warning message is now displayed if game progress is saved between subsequent boss fights.
-Mr Diggs's digging animations are now much quicker.
-The loading screens that explained some of the game's mechanics have been disabled.
-Many areas of the game have had their spawn tables altered or repopulated.
-Starting battle music now coincides with starting morale in most battles.
-"Turn the Tide" and "Beat the Odds" now play during the second half instead of after entering Elysion.
-Union highlighting during the selection phase has been toned down (ie: ally unions don't look quite as blue).
-Camera in battle doesn't swing around as wildly anymore.
tl;dr

Basically the game has better balance. It's easier, less maddening, and actually fair.
 

Exuro

Member
Spl1nter said:
I bought Just Cause 2 and it is pretty bad with a kb/m. Im going to try with a controller and hopefully it is better.
That's not a kbm issue though. There's some funky acceleration going on in it.
 

Caerith

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&Divius said:
1. Have a youtube and a Steam account.
2. Link youtube acount with steam account. Community > View video's > link accounts
3. Upload a video on youtube (I just shot and uploaded a 1 second TF2 vid)
3.5. Wait like half an hour for Steam to notice you have videos on your youtube account.
4. goto Community > View video's > Add video
5. ???
6. profit
This, with one minor fix.
 

REV 09

Member
Gvaz said:
1. there is no reason to walk, ever
2. the "running" is more of a jog and the sprinting should be tied to shift and be able to do it al the time.

I've never played Uncharted 2 but they actually are, in almost every case.

Batman AA, The Witcher 2, Just Cause 2, Red Faction: G, Mass Effect. These work with a controller adequately, but:

You're able to move more accurately and smoother, whereas the controller slows you down and reduces your accuracy.

I can think of only two examples on the PC where a controller is better: Driving games and AssBro. The latter because ubisoft gave it a fucking AWFUL control scheme for KB/M and fuck if I'm spending ten minutes reassigning keys on a console port.

Though maybe I'm biased because while I still play console games in every situation I prefer them to be on the PC instead because I can use a KB/m and have better graphics.
In some cases, immersion>accuracy. There may not be a "reason" to walk in ME, but it is more immersive while role playing to occasionally walk. ME is certainly not a game where the accuracy given by a controller is a hindrance. The graphical argument is obvious, but the lack of a natural walking transition with the kb makes third person game less immersive on pc (for me)...unless controller support is offered.
 

Echoplx

Member
Yasae said:
Anybody who mentions The Last Remnant in discussion is required to mention the substantial changes it got on PC.


tl;dr

Basically the game has better balance. It's easier, less maddening, and actually fair.

I didn't even know about this before i bought it

now I'm really fucking hyped
 

1-D_FTW

Member
Nabs said:
Thinking about ME2, but I may not get to it before the next sale. Might just hold off.

Ah, to live in your non-paranoid mind. I was required to purchase based on my paranoia things will have taken a significant downturn between Steam and EA by Christmas.
 

Gvaz

Banned
Spl1nter said:
I just bought Just Cause 2 and it is pretty bad with a kb/m. Im going to try with a controller and hopefully it is better.
I've been playing for the last 13 hours with a keyboard and tried switching to a controller and it just felt weird and inaccurate, as if I was being limited.

YMMV
 

Teknoman

Member
zazrx said:
Now that the ME questions are done and the PC version is the one to get. What about ME2? PC version better?

Its always going to be better. Unless you have a 360 save that you want to continue the story with, just go with the PC version.
 

Gvaz

Banned
Teknoman said:
Its always going to be better. Unless you have a 360 save that you want to continue the story with, just go with the PC version.
This is exactly what I was about to say, but written better.
 

Coldsnap

Member
Buttonbasher said:
Frustrating. That game lives on Mouse control.

StuBurns said:
It feels like Oblivion with kbm, so I'm guessing like Oblivion on a controller.

You'd probably want a L4D 180 turn button though.

All, I'll just buy it full price when I have a nicer monitor.
 

clav

Member
Teknoman said:
Its always going to be better. Unless you have a 360 save that you want to continue the story with, just go with the PC version.
I like the controller though.

People who say no controller support isn't a minus suck at playing fps on controllers?

Can't decide if I want to start mass effect on PC or X360.
 

lifa-cobex

Member
botlite said:
Conviction may be a little different to the others in the series but it's still a lot of fun.

I'm thinking of getting Conviction but iv never played any Splinter cell's.
Please don't crucify me
Is it a straight follow on from the others or could i jump in and learn from whats going on?
 

GuardianE

Santa May Claus
How long is Amnesia? Does it actually have an interesting story?

It's fine if it doesn't. I can understand it being a series of puzzles and running from a terrifying foe. I'm just trying to figure it out so I can sell it to others. :p
 

RoboShmup

Banned
Well great. Somehow I miss-clicked and now have a random car for a game I don't own in my earned prizes. Really wish they would have a pop-up "are you sure?" window when redeeming tickets. I wasn't even using any tickets, I was just scrolling down the page.

It's not like there's anything redeemable that I really want at this point, but they better not use these tickets for something else or I'm going to be pissed.
 
zazrx said:
Now that the ME questions are done and the PC version is the one to get. What about ME2? PC version better?
Yes. ME2's performance on PC is excellent. Activating AA via CCC or Geforce driver may cause a noticable fps hit though.
 

Sober

Member
lifa-cobex said:
I'm thinking of getting Conviction but iv never played any Splinter cell's.
The story almost doesn't matter (though they do continue the plot of the previous game, Double Agent mostly). If you haven't played the older SC's you will probably enjoy it more. It's not like the older SCs where they were super stealthy, Conviction feels more like Jason Bourne/Jack Bauer-y.

You would be like a panther, you might say.
 
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