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Ether_Snake
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OVAS continues to fall as predicted, I'm too chicken to short.
Can you explain what this means in laymens terms?
mmazurkiewicz
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To Sell Short.
Instead of buying with the belief that the stock will go up, you sell short with the belief that the stock will go down.
With buying, you sell after you've made money and want to get out of the stock. When you sell short, you buy to cover once the stock has fallen to a point where you've made money and want to get out.
You can basically make money in various directions, not just prices going up.
Ok between this and investopedia, I think I get it. Although investopedia says something about "borrowing" the shares, which I guess is a different transaction from outright buying the shares?
mmazurkiewicz
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Borrowing when shorting is like same thing as buying shares except the inverse.
Don't get too caught up with the terms, just that borrowing is like buying and buying to cover is like selling.
Ether_Snake
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I sold half my DIS shares cause I need money to pay my due income taxes
I still have a decent position, but I hope to increase it a bit again soon. Going for that 200B market cap.
I hope I get a decent raise this year, I have had much less to invest with recently.
I still have a decent position, but I hope to increase it a bit again soon. Going for that 200B market cap.
I hope I get a decent raise this year, I have had much less to invest with recently.
Something good to invest in in the next 6 months to a year?
I have solarcity, tesla, sony, microsoft and netflix. Should i hold on these or seel them at little to no profit? Except sony, i think i want to hold those shares for quite some time, the only one i'm confident in.
I have solarcity, tesla, sony, microsoft and netflix. Should i hold on these or seel them at little to no profit? Except sony, i think i want to hold those shares for quite some time, the only one i'm confident in.
vpance
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°°ToMmY°°;154610110 said:
First 3 look good, last 2 seem toppy, depends on when you got in though. Actually, not too sure about SCTY. The chart is too young for my taste and they missed on their last report. I like FSLR or CSIQ better. Let's see everyone's performance in the sector for the next few days.
I got in a few weeks ago. I started investing recently and was on a "shopping spree" due to being my first time. I know...
I'm thinking microsoft with windows 10 and a ceo that seems so much grounded in reality than ballmer will help the company reach new heights, that's why i invested in them. For netflix, i see them expanding all over the world and not losing their prominent position as the de facto leader in internet tv streaming, that's why i invested in them.
Solarcity, i like their plan, seems really frictionless with consumers and poised to help the business grow (most people don't buy into solar due to the upfront cost). Tesla got a beating and i bought hoping it bounces back, i also see it as a company with talent in an growing market. these two seem long term investment though.
Sony seems to me a company worth at least 40 billion, so i see growth in them. I wanted to invest in them in 2012 and they saw a big growth since then, maybe that's skewing my considertion on them, but i always saw them as a much more worth company than what they are now and the market is realizing my predictions.
I don't know where else to invest, i see gacebook growing , especially as i believe in oculus and see it pushing facebook to new height, but i dont know much of facebook as a whole to take the plunge on its stock.
I'm thinking microsoft with windows 10 and a ceo that seems so much grounded in reality than ballmer will help the company reach new heights, that's why i invested in them. For netflix, i see them expanding all over the world and not losing their prominent position as the de facto leader in internet tv streaming, that's why i invested in them.
Solarcity, i like their plan, seems really frictionless with consumers and poised to help the business grow (most people don't buy into solar due to the upfront cost). Tesla got a beating and i bought hoping it bounces back, i also see it as a company with talent in an growing market. these two seem long term investment though.
Sony seems to me a company worth at least 40 billion, so i see growth in them. I wanted to invest in them in 2012 and they saw a big growth since then, maybe that's skewing my considertion on them, but i always saw them as a much more worth company than what they are now and the market is realizing my predictions.
I don't know where else to invest, i see gacebook growing , especially as i believe in oculus and see it pushing facebook to new height, but i dont know much of facebook as a whole to take the plunge on its stock.
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Here's a merger that could make sense: Adidas and United Armor. Keep the shoes under the Adidas name, stop making any UA shoes, and raise the quality of the UA gear through Adidas because quite frankly UA makes the most horrible quality tshirts I've seen any sports goods company make. Win win.
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For solar, you can buy the TAN ETF if you don't want to pick a specific company. It's a very volatile sector where companies can easily go bankrupt, but mergers/acquisitions are also likely. Difficult call to make really, I have both TAN and SCTY and TAN has given me a better return.
Edit: I think Facebook is a good buy but I have no way of determining a good price entry point so I'm not buying it. I see it this way; the amount of information available to us is staggering, and Facebook will become your personalized filter that will make it easier for you to find what interests you. It's an evolved search engine really, that searches for you on its own. So I think there is a great future for the company. Oculus will make sense eventually since it will most likely be used to allow you to view popular events like live musical performances, sports matches, etc. But the adoption rate of the tech is not for the near term and there will be a lot of competition. There's still a lot of cleanup left to do: Tinder, LinkedIn, Instagram (which they acquired), should all eventually be integrated properly. The Friends newsfeed is probably the most useless part of Facebook, but it's just the front door, they need it to keep the masses linked to their ecosystem.
Google can only search the trash bins and put what it finds on a board, trying to make sense of what it sees. Facebook has its users willingly giving it information, so it has a much clearer picture of what its users want and who they are. It's a symbiosis, while Google is more of an intruder, and they keep begging for your info/participation, like someone knocking on your door for a survey while Facebook is in the house.
Edit2: fuck typing on a phone.
Edit: I think Facebook is a good buy but I have no way of determining a good price entry point so I'm not buying it. I see it this way; the amount of information available to us is staggering, and Facebook will become your personalized filter that will make it easier for you to find what interests you. It's an evolved search engine really, that searches for you on its own. So I think there is a great future for the company. Oculus will make sense eventually since it will most likely be used to allow you to view popular events like live musical performances, sports matches, etc. But the adoption rate of the tech is not for the near term and there will be a lot of competition. There's still a lot of cleanup left to do: Tinder, LinkedIn, Instagram (which they acquired), should all eventually be integrated properly. The Friends newsfeed is probably the most useless part of Facebook, but it's just the front door, they need it to keep the masses linked to their ecosystem.
Google can only search the trash bins and put what it finds on a board, trying to make sense of what it sees. Facebook has its users willingly giving it information, so it has a much clearer picture of what its users want and who they are. It's a symbiosis, while Google is more of an intruder, and they keep begging for your info/participation, like someone knocking on your door for a survey while Facebook is in the house.
Edit2: fuck typing on a phone.
These are really good analogies - I'm looking for a technical entry into Facebook as well, won't be buying till my conditions are hit.
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°°ToMmY°°;154610110 said:
Sony's already up like 35% since I picked them up last year shortly after PS4's launch. I don't know how much upside they still have since they still aren't planning on making a profit this year. I have no reason to sell my Sony but I'm not seeing a lot of reason to buy it right now either.
Tesla isn't going up again anytime soon, they're pretty much been hovering around the $200 mark which is down from their all-time high of $250 or so. Well unless Apple announces they are acquiriting Telsa, then you're gonna be one happy guy. Tesla is only fun if you're into speculating on daily fluctuations, there's a lot of daily volatility the active traders can make good money from.
Microsoft's value has already doubled since the day Ballmer announced his retirement, but there's probably some upside left in them this year because Windows 10 is going to do Win7 numbers. They're a safe buy and hold.
I'll let someone else talk about Netflix, I know nothing about them.
vpance
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YELP looks interesting from these levels. I'd try a buy if it pops above 52 ish.
Whenever you see 3 obvious pushes up in the price of a stock, it's time to think about selling. You can see it clearly on the 2 year daily chart for Tesla. And the reverse is generally true for buying. Of all the things I learnt about TA in trading this was the most useful to me.
Whenever you see 3 obvious pushes up in the price of a stock, it's time to think about selling. You can see it clearly on the 2 year daily chart for Tesla. And the reverse is generally true for buying. Of all the things I learnt about TA in trading this was the most useful to me.
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It's so predictable that the DOW would go low, it's always up and down and up, just look at the chart. We will probably see 17600 before it goes back up.
Started stock trading a few weeks ago, pretty scary at first but after a while I'm thinking this isn't too complicated.
Traded SolarCity, Google and Intel and made a few hundred €, really proud right now Have -200 € hanging over me in Box stocks, buying that at high price wasn't my best moment. But I'm still cnfident Box will be going up in the next 12 months, so I see this as my only long term investment. Made a really huge mistake in selling Nintendo early after a few percent rise, went up 20% like crazy in the last few days.
My most confident bet and "most original find" right now is Take Two. The stock ist down a little, they had some good titles in the last month so sales should still be good. Also have some titles coming out this month (Boderlands 2 ps4) and maybe there are some GTA 6 news around the corner etc. Really hoping they are going up from 23€ to 26-27€, that would make me a few hundred. Risk is that the stock market does not see the value of TakeTwo like me as an experienced gamer, maybe they just see that it will be years for the next GTA. Anyway, I think I will learn something about the stock markets assessment of video game companys.
Traded SolarCity, Google and Intel and made a few hundred €, really proud right now
Have -200 € hanging over me in Box stocks, buying that at high price wasn't my best moment. But I'm still cnfident Box will be going up in the next 12 months, so I see this as my only long term investment. Made a really huge mistake in selling Nintendo early after a few percent rise, went up 20% like crazy in the last few days.My most confident bet and "most original find" right now is Take Two. The stock ist down a little, they had some good titles in the last month so sales should still be good. Also have some titles coming out this month (Boderlands 2 ps4) and maybe there are some GTA 6 news around the corner etc. Really hoping they are going up from 23€ to 26-27€, that would make me a few hundred. Risk is that the stock market does not see the value of TakeTwo like me as an experienced gamer, maybe they just see that it will be years for the next GTA. Anyway, I think I will learn something about the stock markets assessment of video game companys.
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The stock markets hate game publishers and not without reason. I don't hate money enough to buy into game publishers, not even Activision Blizzard are a safe enough buy for me.
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I don't know. I'd throw a few bones at NTDOY right now if it weren't on the pink sheets.
vpance
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ATVI and EA have performed really well in the last few years though, EA especially. That 500% gain since '12!
Ether_Snake
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EA, T2, and Ubi have all skyrocketed.
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Purchased some ETFs focused on the health sector. This one's long-term.
As for Take Two, I like the company but there are some uncertainties surrounding it. My first concern is how long they plan to milk GTA5 and GTA Online. My other concern is Evolve, and its lackluster performance commercially and critically. Then there's the issue of the diminishing quality of their sports lineup, specifically their NBA2k and WWE2K series, both of which produced subpar follow-ups in 2014, which raises the question of whether or not Take Two is devolving back into a distributor/publisher who's top heavy, with its primary efforts going into one or two franchises while the rest are pretty much relegated to afterthoughts.
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It will bounce at 17600 or so, that's how I see it.
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Anyone looking to short a gaming company should peek at KING, the makers of Candy Crush. They're currently being investigated for possible securities fraud on top of not nose-diving after their one-hit wonder fell off the grid.
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I'm looking at buying CAT and PG. Both have a good dividend and I like the current price. I would have to sell DIS though to put money in there, and I'm not sure the return would be greater than DIS which I expect to go up another 13% to go, but DIS' dividend is low.
Ether_Snake
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I'm down 50% on DDD, 44% on SSYS
They represent 14% of my portfolio (in the cost), so I'm waiting until they are no more than 10% of it before I bother to add.
vpance
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I'm down 50% on DDD, 44% on SSYS
The setup is similar to solars a few weeks ago. I think I'd try doubling down here and putting a stop below the lows. If it triggers you could try again later. Nice R/R here but I'd like to see it move up with strength to confirm the bottom like solar did.
Ether_Snake
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DDD pretty much followed the classic bubble chart I often post:
The return to mean was just quite extended, but we're there pretty much.
SSYS too, but it could possibly have lower to go (DDD too really), depends where you consider the mean to be (my guess is closer to 50 or in the 40s):
This chart is real magic. I wish I followed it back then. What's nice is that TSLA and SCTY have not really been following the bubble chart, so that's reassuring for those two.
OVAS is one company that is just past the bull trap, about to head into the capitulation phase. If you have a simulated account, short it
My portfolio is down 11% because I sold my winners earlier this year and part of DIS recently, so don't listen to me
I made 12% last year, but not yoy, some of those I had owned for a few years, so the ROI is not that good doing stock picking. It's been more effort, for more or less the same as following the market with an ETF, if not a bit lower.I should just follow the same investment choices I make with 401k since I'm up on average 8.5% a year. But even though I have been balancing to that end, I'm still stuck with big losers like DDD, SSYS, SCTY a bit (-20%), and DIG (-11%), and I don't want to sell so I'm just stuck waiting.
vpance
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Both went well past 50%, SSYS had a strong reaction from the lows but DDD is still kind of just hovering there and looks more scary to me so I think I'll try the former instead. The stronger the stock the less of a correction there'll be, and the higher the chance of continuing the trend up. Waiting a while longer to see if it starts to make higher highs and higher lows before buying usually prudent.
That bubble chart should be reserved for extreme events though, like the tech crash, where everything died and stayed dead for quite a long time. It's way too dire a scenario for most stocks I think solar supports higher prices, the fundamentals of it are there and the PE ratios of most stocks in the sector are rock bottom. 3D printing I've no informed opinion on it but you'd think something like that would have enormous potential for growth in the future. Therefore, buy the correction to the mean.
The interesting thing is you can take the boom and bust cycle of bubble and apply it on any timeframe, minute, hours, days, etc. Take a look at AAPL for the last 10 years and you'll see 2 major "bubbles", and the 3rd one forming which is BTW looking a bit scary and parabolic like so I think Apple's days are numbered :0... The 3 push up as I've said is a warning sign.
That bubble chart should be reserved for extreme events though, like the tech crash, where everything died and stayed dead for quite a long time. It's way too dire a scenario for most stocks
I think solar supports higher prices, the fundamentals of it are there and the PE ratios of most stocks in the sector are rock bottom. 3D printing I've no informed opinion on it but you'd think something like that would have enormous potential for growth in the future. Therefore, buy the correction to the mean.The interesting thing is you can take the boom and bust cycle of bubble and apply it on any timeframe, minute, hours, days, etc. Take a look at AAPL for the last 10 years and you'll see 2 major "bubbles", and the 3rd one forming which is BTW looking a bit scary and parabolic like so I think Apple's days are numbered :0... The 3 push up as I've said is a warning sign.
Ether_Snake
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I agree on SSYS, way back when I first compared the two companies years ago the financials just looked better for it, and I think it's still true. Also, I seem to recall looking at the reviews on Glassdoor, and employees seemed to be much more happy there than at DDD.
For the bubble chart, it applies to specific companies too, or sectors. Because what it reflects is the human mind, so it's true at smaller and larger scales. 3D stocks had their own bubble which followed that chart. Of course, if you apply the chart to a single company, the chances are higher that an event would break the trend, like a buyout during the bulltrap or right after, etc. That's why with OVAS, I'd be afraid to actually short it, they could have some awesome news any day. But when you add more companies under a context where such a chart has formed (a bubble), the chances that they would all suddenly benefit from good news is less likely. That's because when the bubble forms, it's no longer about rationality, just about where the price was before, so little can change its course and fate, but if it's a single company then a lot can happen to turn things around. But my thinking is, buyouts are unlikely until after capitulation (big companies can't really go and buy into a bubble unless they can really afford it), so it leaves very little to prevent the capitulation from happening once you've reached the bull trap.
And yeah I can imagine something like Apple Watch causing a bubble for Apple. I remember 2012 well, everyone around me was talking about buying Apple shares and then hitting themselves for selling, until it all went down. Back then, it actually beat the bull trap, that's a good example of events that can push a company higher and distort the trend. It also never reverted to the mean, which to be frank makes sense, Apple really reached a new "higher" after this.
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One technical indicator I use is Exponential Moving Average, set to a 100 days period. That tells me Apple's bottom would be at 92 or so, if it was to fall significantly again. I doubt it will happen though, if it does, it would be the watch because that has certain added a bit of excess to the price, and if they do well it will just add more; "new paradagim!", people will see Apple as a golden egg laying goose if they make the watch a success.
For the bubble chart, it applies to specific companies too, or sectors. Because what it reflects is the human mind, so it's true at smaller and larger scales. 3D stocks had their own bubble which followed that chart. Of course, if you apply the chart to a single company, the chances are higher that an event would break the trend, like a buyout during the bulltrap or right after, etc. That's why with OVAS, I'd be afraid to actually short it, they could have some awesome news any day. But when you add more companies under a context where such a chart has formed (a bubble), the chances that they would all suddenly benefit from good news is less likely. That's because when the bubble forms, it's no longer about rationality, just about where the price was before, so little can change its course and fate, but if it's a single company then a lot can happen to turn things around. But my thinking is, buyouts are unlikely until after capitulation (big companies can't really go and buy into a bubble unless they can really afford it), so it leaves very little to prevent the capitulation from happening once you've reached the bull trap.
And yeah I can imagine something like Apple Watch causing a bubble for Apple. I remember 2012 well, everyone around me was talking about buying Apple shares and then hitting themselves for selling, until it all went down. Back then, it actually beat the bull trap, that's a good example of events that can push a company higher and distort the trend. It also never reverted to the mean, which to be frank makes sense, Apple really reached a new "higher" after this.
2006-13:
One technical indicator I use is Exponential Moving Average, set to a 100 days period. That tells me Apple's bottom would be at 92 or so, if it was to fall significantly again. I doubt it will happen though, if it does, it would be the watch because that has certain added a bit of excess to the price, and if they do well it will just add more; "new paradagim!", people will see Apple as a golden egg laying goose if they make the watch a success.
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Both went well past 50%, SSYS had a strong reaction from the lows but DDD is still kind of just hovering there and looks more scary to me so I think I'll try the former instead. The stronger the stock the less of a correction there'll be, and the higher the chance of continuing the trend up. Waiting a while longer to see if it starts to make higher highs and higher lows before buying usually prudent.
That bubble chart should be reserved for extreme events though, like the tech crash, where everything died and stayed dead for quite a long time. It's way too dire a scenario for most stocks
The interesting thing is you can take the boom and bust cycle of bubble and apply it on any timeframe, minute, hours, days, etc. Take a look at AAPL for the last 10 years and you'll see 2 major "bubbles", and the 3rd one forming which is BTW looking a bit scary and parabolic like so I think Apple's days are numbered :0... The 3 push up as I've said is a warning sign.
Apple's days are far from numbered, IMO. I doubt the Apple Watch will cause big waves since it's a supplementing accessory, but their upcoming foray into automobiles is definitely something to watch out for.
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Google Trends is an interesting tool to use. It's difficult to interpret the ramifications of the data shown, but interesting non the less. If it's of any use, it tells me Under Amour is over valued and Adidas is in recovery mode (Adidas Originals has been trending up a lot), although this could be a bull trap, but specific details about the brand's resurging popularity is making me think otherwise.
SolarCity has picked up massively recently: http://www.google.ca/trends/explore#q=/m/03bzk3g&cmpt=q&tz= It's kind of stabilizing even if there are strong ups and down. Maybe Google trend can be a supplementary tool in determining if a stock is over valued from hype-induced interest. You can see how OVAS shot up starting in October when big IT companies said they were going to offer fertility coverage for their employees even none of them specifically refereed to OVAS: http://www.google.ca/trends/explore#q=OvaScience&cmpt=q&tz= I remember that was the precise moment I started to look into fertility companies because I realized it make perfect sense for a growth industry, and a few days later OVAS skyrocketed.
Edit: New TSLA news Tesla Cuts Jobs in China; Sales Are Slow on Car Charging Concerns
SolarCity has picked up massively recently: http://www.google.ca/trends/explore#q=/m/03bzk3g&cmpt=q&tz= It's kind of stabilizing even if there are strong ups and down. Maybe Google trend can be a supplementary tool in determining if a stock is over valued from hype-induced interest. You can see how OVAS shot up starting in October when big IT companies said they were going to offer fertility coverage for their employees even none of them specifically refereed to OVAS: http://www.google.ca/trends/explore#q=OvaScience&cmpt=q&tz= I remember that was the precise moment I started to look into fertility companies because I realized it make perfect sense for a growth industry, and a few days later OVAS skyrocketed.
Edit: New TSLA news Tesla Cuts Jobs in China; Sales Are Slow on Car Charging Concerns
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17600, 17600, 17600.
To bad I got no money to invest on this drop, as always.
Either I sell DIS or just sit there with no money to put in the markets until june or so
To bad I got no money to invest on this drop, as always.
Either I sell DIS or just sit there with no money to put in the markets until june or so
For the bio tech investors, if you haven't already, take a look at NVAX, IDRA, ZIOP, and XON.
Also, does anybody here subscribe to MTSL? If so, how do you like it? I'm seriously considering subscribing so some insight into how it is would be good
So nobody subscribes to MTSL (www.bioinvest.com)? I find that surprising - when I finally pick it up, I'll post my thoughts.
Another company to keep an eye is ANTH, once I get a good entry point (after doing some more research of course), I think I'll probably take a good sized long position.
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Pff that's nothing, you should see my portfolio. I won't have any money available to invest until probably June, by then markets will have probably recovered. I would invest tomorrow if I did, cause my indicator tells me where close to a bottom, so might as well if I'm going to invest. But I can't! Since I usually invest regularly when I have money available, I don't time the markets, but what happens is a bit of bad luck (taxes owed, vacations, etc.) and I end up without a cent to invest while markets go down.
TakeTwo finally up! Relatively satisfying Evolve results, some minor releases this month, still GTA money incoming, "stock experts" thinking there will be GTA 6 news this month > Not gonna happen. I may be new to stocks, but I'm not new to gaming.
Is there any particular stock software or website you guys can recommand? Tried out several websites, didn't like a single one.
What I need:
- Customizable sheet view
- realtime stock prices (for German stock exchange would be a plus)
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I have a robinhood code to spare, only valid for 72h. Write me a PN, first come, first serve!
Is there any particular stock software or website you guys can recommand? Tried out several websites, didn't like a single one.
What I need:
- Customizable sheet view
- realtime stock prices (for German stock exchange would be a plus)
________
I have a robinhood code to spare, only valid for 72h. Write me a PN, first come, first serve!
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that does sound pretty cool actually
edit: like many other similar sites, they don't support my brokerage (Questrade)