the_log_ride
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Really? I know jump-ins are strong in this game, but I don't know if I'd go so far as to say they're free dmg
Anyone working with Asuka? Trying to get in the groove with her. What's the best hit confirms for her? LP MP LP?
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Really? I know jump-ins are strong in this game, but I don't know if I'd go so far as to say they're free dmg
Anyone working with Asuka? Trying to get in the groove with her. What's the best hit confirms for her? LP MP LP?
I'm treating AA'ing in this differently from every other game, people are still doing the same shit from SF4 and it just doesn't work. Heihachi has decent AA with back.MP, j.MK, j.HK, EX.DP but it's all very space dependent. Of course there's times when you just need to block but people are going to have to go back to training mode to learn when and with what to anti-air.
lemon__fresh
Member
Bait, block and punish? We've been dealing with shoto spam since sf2.
I actually find it kind of relieving when I get a shoto match because I know what to expect.
Cammy basically got the same boost Juri got. And Akuma. And Ryu. And Ken.
Part of the problem with Abel is that while he's a good anti-Tekken character he has huge issues with the SF cast. They got huge buffs while he got better footsies...and a charge command that great for catching people off-guard...but it still isn't enough.
Part of the problem with Abel is that while he's a good anti-Tekken character he has huge issues with the SF cast. They got huge buffs while he got better footsies...and a charge command that great for catching people off-guard...but it still isn't enough.
I heard Yoshi is ass. Is this true? I was planning on maining him.
Ya he's pretty ass, thought he had promise.. but I doubt we'll see him blowing people up.
All his shit is really slow and unsafe. His combo potential seems really limited.
He might have the most worthless move in the game too (suicide), they should atleast made it unblockable.
Exactly that. I'm not used to it, though. :/
online lag
you know, ruining those link perfect combos with some idiot mashing dp
what's funny is that the tekken bros kick the shit out of people trying to do that because of the reliance on chains or whatever
kevo_huevo
Member
hey what's law's gtfo move when being pressured since he doesnt have a dp he can mash? ex somersault?
bluddtheersty
Member
I'm jumping ship to Lili only for the fact that she has an airthrow and Andante (or whatever that move is called).That thing has a godly hitbox and I have never seen that miss on anyone.
ThoughtsOfSpeaking
Banned
How good would you guys say raven is?
I can't speak to how good you are, but what you said sounds like you need to step your game up.
ex fists
about a frame or two of invincibility
i've stuffed dps, whatever
depends on the timing tho
some of the best fireballs in the game
self teleport
tekken instant oatmeal mixups
big damage, flashy combos
yeah he's good
I've heard she's one of the easier Tekken characters to learn. What's your opinion?
I tried Jin yesterday. That didn't work out too well.
I'm a beginner. Most Ryu + Ken teams I face end up jumping back constantly. Then mashing hadouken until I have to jump towards them. As soon as I get close, it's a shoryuken-spam fest.
Aren´t spds 5 frames now?
So as a UMVC3 player, how will this game be? I suck at SF4, doing combos is that game is so fucking hard because of the timing. I played this one a bit at a friends house and I liked it, especially the 2v2, and it felt easier to do combos on that game than on SF4 even though I had no idea what I was doing. But yeah, the game was fun as hell, just wondering how hard is it going to be to adapt to it for combos and stuff.
I'm using Lili right now and she's definitely a lot easier to use than some of the other characters. When you do a cross over and bring Lili in do R1 and then d,d/f,f + LK as a follow up in case you happen to pick her up.
NoizyChild
Member
What I've learned:
- EX rush punch (pheonix smasher, or PS) in your punishes are good, but not in the corner
- he doesn't really have a good multi-hit move to tag cancel into
- his "go under fireball" moves is slow and doesn't go far enough, but can extend his wallbounce combos
- his fierce PS is -3 on block, but the other versions are way worse, so only use jab/strong PS if you're juggling and fierce will go under
- I need to test this out, but apparently his jabs have no hurtbox and are abuseable
- his overhead punch special (non-EX) is +3 so you can use it to put on the pressure, and causes a ground-bounce on counterhit
- his anti-airs are weak, but not useless
Paul specials are almost a mismash of SF characters:
Makoto dash punch, Yun's upkicks, Yang's low roll move, Oni's overhead smash move, Dudley's back-swing blow, Ryu's links but Dan's normals.
Played a Hwoarang that knew what he was doing. Again with the high/low mixups only he could do it at range with a lot of safety. His rising jaguar is on par with DP as an AA. I'd be surprised if he isn't top tier or somewhere near there as the game matures.
Marduck is literally Abel only his falling sky doesn't suck. Pretty sad from an Abel player's perspective.
Marduck is literally Abel only his falling sky doesn't suck. Pretty sad from an Abel player's perspective.
ihearthawthats
Banned
yoshi is one of my favourite characters right now. he needs meter to be good. you'd think his sword poke normals would be godlike, but the hitbox on them is decieving. they're definitely not as good as rolento's baton normals. his air normals seem pretty good though.I heard Yoshi is ass. Is this true? I was planning on maining him.
most of his specials are unsafe unblock. but if you have meter to tag cancel them you can get a free mixup off most of them.
he's really slow, but he has an invincible teleport. so those who hate fighting against rolento frametraps might be able to use it to get out safely.
gameplan would probably be a lot of neutral jumps, c.mp pokes, random breaths and poison winds, to build meter. and then once you have the meter start playing a bit more risky.
bluddtheersty
Member
I have tried all those options with Heihachi and each of them gets beaten quite fairly.
B.mp only works if they have jumped in from far away distance which doesn't usually happen.
J.HK usually trades or gets beaten against the likes of Ryu's J.HK or Ogre's.I'll probably have to hit training mode like you mentioned and see what my options are.
Doesn't his heavy raijin stance let him move across the screen fairly quickly? Why not try to do what I do as Law with his dash knuckle, use it to go out under the jump in.
riskVSreward
Member
Back + MP is a good anti air for hachi, gotta get used to its space and timing tho, it moves you forward a bit. I just got done blowing up a Hugo by basically just hitting him out of the air with that and starting a mixup when he landed.
MP Raijin is alright for gaining ground after a knockdown, but nothing incredible.
Oh you're talking about getting out of wakeup jump in pressure... I'll have to try that out.
It does get annoying when you run into the people who spam dp the entire time theyre in block stun. I know theyre an easy win but I still like getting execution practice in for when I face better players.
His crouch HP is a solid anti air. I eat that shit a lot trying to jump at him.
Paul is damn basic, and anyone with shit execution can go right to him for some big ass damage.
I may try Paul/Kazuya later today online to see how I fair.
bluddtheersty
Member
I don't know about Hugo but Ogre was hitting me out of it each time to the point that i just didn't bother with it anymore.Tekken characters in general seem to have very weak anti-airs in this game from what i have noticed so far.
Teknopathetic
Member
"Comparing some characters is like night and day. Training with Poison, I can easily her limits as far as damage and combos go. On the other hand, just starting to goof around with Julia, and there are so many possibilities is overwhelming."
Julia has some really sick flashy looking combos and after deciding to stick with her, I feel like I'm starting to piece together how you're actually supposed to play her.
Julia has some really sick flashy looking combos and after deciding to stick with her, I feel like I'm starting to piece together how you're actually supposed to play her.
SUPARSTARX
Member
-2, unpunishable!
Teknopathetic
Member
"how do you get in with king? any vids/tips?"
Throw them 'bows.
Throw them 'bows.
Silver_key
Neo Member
The Bible Sayeth:
Ex Fists: invincible frames 1 - 16
Ex Flip: invincible frames 1 - 18
Ex Dragon Stance: 1 point armor on frames 1 - 65
I wouldn't even really compare her to Fei Long, the only thing that Whip of Love and Rekka have in common are that both are a three-stage move. The only way to use Whip is to hit-confirm into it. They should have gave the move more range though, it's funny that her shoryu has more range than Whip.
ShinobiFist
Banned
I hate you.....Going for that Achievement today. Was close, but lost quite a few.
Akuma
Has anyone evaluated Bob or Julia's styles? I need a new anchor for two weeks from now (tourney with a bonus Qanba prize and my stick just broke).
As much hype as convict kicks into knees bring to a crowd, I'm dropping him. Getting pressured and guessing shoulder/EX high throw/EX low throw/EX elbow is not so fun, and he can't out-poke anyone.
As much hype as convict kicks into knees bring to a crowd, I'm dropping him. Getting pressured and guessing shoulder/EX high throw/EX low throw/EX elbow is not so fun, and he can't out-poke anyone.