Yea I hate how RH flip whiffs at far c.mk -> c.mp range so I gotta ex walldive
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Except you have to link from s.lp into cr fp which is a 1 frame link. Throwing out that c.fp without confirming it isn't cool.
That said, am I insane or is a majority of the stuff in this game relatively safe? The fact that stuff like patriot circle is -1 boggles my mind.
Ogre's good but idk about s tier
master mist step cancelling and EWGF and you're good to go
kazuya's mixup is one of the best, his damage is one of the best, and a ton of characters who normally do very well in melee get beat out by kazuya's normals/ex shit
his only real weakness is AA. calling rufus and juri!
She makes me feel the same way, but I guess I'll just wait for sakura as a replacement.
QisTopTier
XisBannedTier
LOL at all the dumbasses on ranked that let me just sit back up and build a fuck ton of meter with ogre.
Run into any abels yet? Every Ogre i've run into love to do ancient power on wakeup or do the super skrull slam and I just punish with EX TT every time. I'm curious whether or not Abel is actually a bad matchup for the dude.
QisTopTier
XisBannedTier
Why would abel be a bad match up? I've slaughtered all the ones I've fought
SUPARSTARX
Member
So yeah, them DLC characters.
Lei's got so many awkward moves. Interesting to see how his moves will play out live.
Lei's got so many awkward moves. Interesting to see how his moves will play out live.
It is as long as you let me hit you with wake up supers lol
On a serious note, you should roll less. It's too predictable and lets me get easy pressure once I knock you down.
(not to say your Hugo doesn't own me anyway)
True, but they're safer options on a block string. I guess only go for the cr FP if you land the j.HK , if you decide to jump with her. In my experience it hasn't worked well to jump in with her though.
Just had a play with Rolento, zzzz easy mode combos...
He shuts down all the shit scrubby Ogres like to whip out, what does he do against a good one?
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XisBannedTier
Lemon Crest
Member
I love when people don't stop forward rolling.
Command grab all day
Command grab all day
The combos in question all started with jump-ins, which is why the cr FP is the best option. I think right now, st LP - bed time is the most reliable link for me
It's important to use the links I can do vs the ones I can't. My success rate with mp - mp or cr MP - MP is only about 60% or less.
It's a tough link but it's a lot easier if you plink it. Pay off is good too, most people won't expect those two to link so you can mix it up.
what about forward roll then holding up all day?
Lemon Crest
Member
do you wake up every time with the jump kicks?
for his teleport, should I just let him land and hit my max combo before the explosion?
What combos are you doing against crouching opponents when you don't have any meter?
Man I really suck at this game but for some reason I'm still having fun even when I've only won 2/30 games online. It's really satisfying to complete a trial or grasp some concept you didn't understand before. I can feel myself getting better inch by inch.
AKingNamedPaul
I am Homie
I really need some help, I cant find it anywhere on the net and I have no idea why i seem to be the only one having trouble with this.
Why cant I figure out the trick to aiming Vega's Super in this game? I had no trouble with it in AE, but It doesn't seem to work the same in this game. I start charge down and try to end with a particular direction and Vega seems to go to w.e wall he feels like. Anyone have any advice?
Why cant I figure out the trick to aiming Vega's Super in this game? I had no trouble with it in AE, but It doesn't seem to work the same in this game. I start charge down and try to end with a particular direction and Vega seems to go to w.e wall he feels like. Anyone have any advice?
Seems like you can aim it during the super freeze, so just try holding what direction you want once you see it fire.
QisTopTier
XisBannedTier
LOL no I dont do that, but just walk forward, it will make it wiff
AKingNamedPaul
I am Homie
I literally just figured out the difference. In this game you have to hold that direction. In AE it was all one motion. Now I can finish my big damage combos finally..
ProtoCents
Banned
Just make sure you go through neutral stick state and don't bring the stick to the up position until after it passes neutral.
Speaking of Vega I am having a bitch of a time linking off his overhead into the cr. LK > cr. LP > cr. MP BnB. Anyone good at this?
Seems he can convert into big damage off of anything. I'm tempted to run Ogre/Hugo to be a compelete douche.
I'm pretty sure bed time forces stand with the final hit (mk). I usually manage to land the cr FP to force a stand to combo, though I know it won't work in "high level" play
F+HK - bed time
Cross-up j MK or j HK- cr FP
st LP - bed time
cr MP - MP
xx lk dp - cr FP xx qcb k+k (k) - cr FP xx qcf LK (lk) (lk) with meter
xx lk dp - lk dp - cr FP xx qcf LK (lk) (lk) without
Something that was mentioned on Srk is that Lili's launcher does 100 dmg even at the end of a chain (normal is 50), so you can start a juggle for your partner for a lot of dmg with a quick mp xx FP xx launch
Like I said I like to build meter by putting an onslaught gem on my partner that activates off a partner launch, so I can start with Lili, fish for a launcher chain and right off the bat I can do a decent dmg juggle (with her 100 dmg launcher) and start a quick meter build with my partner as soon as they come in.
I'm not good though I learned a lot just by playing endless with 1 random scrub who I beat 10 or so times before he gave up.
QisTopTier
XisBannedTier
I take it back Ogre is C tier and Julia is D tier no one pick them.
Tek lets get some 1v1 sessions in tomorrow.
Tek lets get some 1v1 sessions in tomorrow.
Rice-Eater
Member
*raises hand*
I guess I'm theory fighting a bit, but I don't think his anti air is that bad. A well timed cr. HP is good for close jump ins, st. MK is good for far jump ins and EX slaughter hook can really catch people off guard. I've hardly played people though, so I can't say I'm anti-airing people left and right but the tools seem to be there. He has no DP, but maybe his anti air isn't as bad as people think it is. Only time will tell though.
"God's Beard!"
Member
Wait, you can neutral jump against Ogre's orbital grudge?
Unfortunately it does not. Only things that do is her overhead and c.hp.
QisTopTier
XisBannedTier
Walk forward
Rice-Eater
Member
I first heard of Ken being considered top tier by the Japanese on WNF. I thought they were just joking by making that up. But then I see that there was a tier list made by Japanese people(by who, I don't know yet). But really, Ken is considered top tier? I mean I realize his tatsu, both air and ground, are pretty good in this game. But his normals are complete ass. Pretty much without meter all he can really do is chain into launcher. So is there something I'm missing here?
QisTopTier
XisBannedTier
That tier list is pure shit, ignore it.
Today I'm gonna try out a team with atleast one grappler like Hugo or Zangief.
I'm getting very good at zoning in this game, but due tot the soundglitch I can't combo/punish people properly.
So I don't do enough damage and a lot of these games end in a time-out victory. So I need some of that braindead easy Hugo-combo-damage.
I'm getting very good at zoning in this game, but due tot the soundglitch I can't combo/punish people properly.
So I don't do enough damage and a lot of these games end in a time-out victory. So I need some of that braindead easy Hugo-combo-damage.
abstract alien
Member
I haven't played with Megaman much, but I like what I've seen so far. Pacman....I love. I've always liked big clunky characters than require deliberate movements, so he is a fun pick for me. I like Cole as well. Those two cats are kinda weird, and what's up with the infinite Koro combo lol
Seraphis Cain
bad gameplay lol
Okay, this is something I've never been able to understand about stuff like this and SFIV and Marvel...I'm doing Raven's trials, and I'm supposed to do cr.LP, cr.MP, Alter Ego H. If I just do cr.MP, Alter Ego H, it comes out correctly every time. But I throw the cr.LP in there, and the Alter Ego NEVER comes out. I'm doing the exact same motions and button presses as I am when I do it without the cr.LP, but it doesn't work. What the hell. Can someone please explain this to me?
abstract alien
Member
Yeah, it always seemed to me like the timing tightened up when it came to things like this.
You can't cancel into a special move if you've chained normals together.
You're chaining cr.lp into cr.mp. You need to link them.
If you don't know what a link is.
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=35793050&postcount=4111
No. Marvel and MK have always been special cases when it comes to fighting games over there.
Lol 360.
Waiting for them (IF they come), possibly without the "floating" glitch.
How about the cats? are they "broken"? "annoying"? can they be banned from online gameplay?
I'm in that same situation where i play decently only one character in a 2v2 game.
Maybe i'll go back to my Tatsunoko vs Capcom team, but damn it i don't really like Ryu that much.
I'll try Chun-Lili...
Seraphis Cain
bad gameplay lol
Yeah, I just got that from a YouTube video. It'd be really nice if the game would, you know, explain things like that. For as much as Capcom says "Oh, SFxT is great for beginners and pros alike!", they certainly don't go out of their way to help people learn stuff like that.
"God's Beard!"
Member
Just the fact that Ibuki can cancel her chains makes her a beast. Not too many characters have safe cancelable chains.
Oh yeah, doesn't cross up, huh.
Oh yeah, doesn't cross up, huh.