LowParry
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Madcatz TE sticks of any labeled brand works. SFIV, Round 2, SFxT, MvC, etc.
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Madcatz TE sticks of any labeled brand works. SFIV, Round 2, SFxT, MvC, etc.
toddhunter
Member
Madcatz TE or the Hori real acrade pro depending on what button layout you prefer.
SUPARSTARX
Member
Hori
Madcatz
eightarc
qanba
Madcatz
eightarc
qanba
Lol, I went to Replay Channel to look for Kuma matches, and it's full of GAF members thanks to CO_Andy.
Currently watching Floyd/Ferrio vs CO_Andy/Q
edit: welp, on to CO_Andy vs Floyd :lol
edit #2: Switched to Nina matches... 182BP Nina player vs MoodyShuffle and freaking Rolento. This won't end well
oh man... the Nina player probaby got about 250 damage on both of Moody's characters combined in round two, and less than that in round 1...
Currently watching Floyd/Ferrio vs CO_Andy/Q
edit: welp, on to CO_Andy vs Floyd :lol
edit #2: Switched to Nina matches... 182BP Nina player vs MoodyShuffle and freaking Rolento. This won't end well
oh man... the Nina player probaby got about 250 damage on both of Moody's characters combined in round two, and less than that in round 1...
Ragingnight
Member
Madcatz, Eightarc, Hori VLX, are the ones I can think of
Madcatz is simple quality sanwa parts, just a standard quality stick
Eightarc is same parts but comes dual modded (and looks cooler)
Hori VLX gets mad praise. Fchamp and many others swear that this is the BEST stick to have at home. I have heard nothing bad about the hori vlx
If this is your first stick and you want a quality "cheap" one, then wait for a major and just get a madcatz and use the promo code they always advertise. That is how I got mine for like 110 bucks with shipping.
SUPARSTARX
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GhostRidah
Member
Only thing bad about the VLX is the price, I wish I snagged one back when they were in production.
Spirit of Jazz
Banned
I always put him secondary as his ex-anti-air attack is probably the best in the game. Given that beyond that he's not got much going for him just huge damage with awkward confirms, and dodgy command grabs. I don't see why you'd put him anywhere else.
Not my first stick, but first Japanese one. Used a mas stick for 10 years but it's having issues. What's the difference between sanwa and seimetsu? And which.sticks use which?
GhostRidah
Member
sanwa is convex buttons and seimetsu is concave.
Ragingnight
Member
I'm not entirely sure between the makers, but what I do know is sanwa parts are amazing. They are responsive and durable, and really that is all I care about.
I would go with a madcatz TE and just wait for a discount code from a major. Markman always throws those out every big tourney. Also I believe Madcatz is hosting a major as well pretty soon in SD, I'm sure they will have a discount promo running for the event.
"God's Beard!"
Member
Fanatic is the nicest guy around, but he really loves his gambling. Like, really loves it.
Any advice on the second special cancel? I can get the first five hits in but I'm having trouble getting the second HCF+F out in time. (I may need to get a stick for this game.)
Spirit of Jazz
Banned
You really don't need a stick for this. Use roundhouse instead of fierce and then I promise you the HCF fierce will be east as pie. Though keep in mind it's best to go into your super if you've got the bar, or HCF ex-kick into fierce, FCF + F>F.
Oh wow, yeah, that's tons easier. Thanks!
At which point do you switch over to the Super or EX-KK wallbounce in the basic jump-in combo if using bar? Doing Jump-F, F->EX Tiger Bear Knee-> Roundhouse-HCF->F-F seems to get me a bit of a damage increase, although only enough to really be useful in the case where I need to finish someone.
Shouta
Member
I've actually just started playing Kuma and he's hilariously awesome. Once you start a combo he can just ride it for huge damage like the combo Degen posted. I usually use roundhouse as well before the second hcf+p though. I've done better with him and law than I have with any other team in the last week. I've dubbed the team "Bear Soup."
Yeah, using roundhouse for both gives you more time for the special cancel.
Spirit of Jazz
Banned
I feel Kuma's a character who its hard to get any kind of damage with, but when you're able to get it the damage will be ludicrous. That means if you land with a jump in go for the ex if you have one bar, the super if you have two.
Though with that said it's all down to personal preference. If you want to save all of Kuma's ex for utility (with anti-air at least) it's understandable, especially when it come to more skilled opposition. For example when I'm against a good Juri I know I need the ex to beat out dive-kick set-ups and her stupidly fast jump-in as I know I can't jump in myself (her cr.mp is murder).
Ultimately I think Kuma's a really basic character who gains some God-like utility with that ex anti-air/reversal if you're against a skilled player. Outside of that you goal should be to bait and punish. Forward lp>mp>hp will beat out jumps and back-dashes clean. will be safe if you end it will qcf lp, and will lead to huge damage if confirmed into hcf HP>HP, HK, HCF HP>HP. It's the ideal offence to put opponents into the mindset that they need to DP, and the ideal thing to punish DPs with.
I feel that's the crux of his game, along with his mid command grab if they get too scared.
I think i actually scared away Q and Ferrio with my zany antics that time lol (made mah pardner Q die in our last match doing an accidental switch out).
In my defense, it was the first time i took the game for a ride online; was not accustomed to the game's BS yet.
QisTopTier
XisBannedTier
Flying Wonkey
Member
You don't. Get as far away as you can and deal damage from a distance. It's HIS job to get close not yours. If you can't do stuff from a mile away well try to attack him without getting too close. Use some of the better pokes your characters have.
NoizyChild
Member
So it's safe to say that Steve is screwed in this situation?
abstract alien
Member
Really good advice. You really have to practice patience, because all of your work can be undone with literally one mistake while facing him. Quite literally.
I'm an expert
Formerly worldrevolution. The only reason I am nice to anyone else is to avoid being banned.
I don't have a hard time with Zangief with Steve (or anyone in this game) for some reason. He seems tamer here than 4, although his throw range seems crazy on block. With Steve I play keep away using Hellfire and weaves and then go fishing for a f.mp->lp or a ducking mp if he likes to jump in to close the gap. The second option is by no means safe but if you space it right you can usually avoid getting in trouble. When close in f.lp->mp or hit confirming a crouching medium into another one and then the bnb is your best bet. I'm not saying it's easy at all, and Steve is definitely at a disadvantage with most in this game, but all it takes is a single lp to connect to launch and get him out of there.
Law's pretty good, but he has major complications against some of the top tier. Raven and Kazuya don't give two shits about anything he can throw out. Same thing with Rolento.
DeleteMyAccountThankyou
Member
Go into training and find out what beats his lariat from the air(At least one move for your character should). Then proceed with caution. You can't play gief like you play other characters or you'll get worked. You see a gief spamming lariat whenever you come in just bait it. Think of it like a DP but you can beat it while jumping in. As for the range on his spd... read what it says in the guide about his range. If you feel you're too close backdash, sometimes he'll whiff an spd and you can punish hard.
Just speaking from things that tend to own my gief.
QisTopTier
XisBannedTier
Ogre is such a bad character. I think I'm going to drop him for someone top tier like RYU AND KEN
srk cross cancel into srk
I actually have fun playing ogre because of how cool it feels to do his SRK+k attack, I forget what it's called, despite losing horribly every game.
QisTopTier
XisBannedTier
There's a reason Ogre has the world in his hands. ggs, Q!
Flying Wonkey
Member
The one you can do while knock downed/quick rising? It's Owl's Hunt.
That move is really bad and you should feel really bad for using it.
!!
I would use it on you now if I could.
QisTopTier
XisBannedTier
I finally got some ibuki exp, I had no idea wtf her shit did in this version yet haha
DeleteMyAccountThankyou
Member
Drop for Lili!
Okay. That's fuckin' awesome.
Ha!
I use Nina and Kazuya.......I can't attack from a distance and Gief players always out-poke me. Really need to pick up a projectile character. :/
LOL you try to out poke him yeah have fun
That's what I've been trying so far, lol.
This will be really helpful. Thanks!
There's a major next weekend (Norcal Regionals), but the talent pool will be diluted somewhat due to MLG Columbus also taking place.
As for this game, I think I might have ruined my ability to take it seriously by trolling with super easy input Gief online...
For all the talk about Lili on here I've only met one other person who played her. And that was because he was stomping me so hard in endless that he just wanted to embarrass me more by beating me with my own char.
I've had that happen to me. Happily I usually kick their ass.
I just get into the fetal position and JamesFrancoCry.gif
I'm definitely starting to like this game and really am starting to understand a lot of the mechanics. There is frustration, tension, and constant poking and mind games to get a hit in and follow up with combos. It's really great. Although it can be anger-inducing sometimes, that's what I sort of expect from fighters. It's not the same type of stress and frustration I feel from my local Tekken play either (which is on its own level). It's a completely different type of stress.....sort of unique on its own and carrying its own attributes. Really amazing. Hopefully this post makes sense, lol.
DeleteMyAccountThankyou
Member
I thought super easy input would cost meter or something... that 10% dmg reduction is not enough. Pushing up + jab and spding is ridiculous.
Seimitsu don't make concave buttons...
I will remain loyal in the Ogre army for now