With Law's move, it's really tough. And it has so many invulnerability frames for it's EX version! I'd suggest that against Laws, to backdash sometimes on their wakeup because it's easy to punish on whiff, but difficult on block.
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With Law's move, it's really tough. And it has so many invulnerability frames for it's EX version! I'd suggest that against Laws, to backdash sometimes on their wakeup because it's easy to punish on whiff, but difficult on block.
Thanks, guys. I've been looking for the best ways to punish those moves. Kinda BS that Hugo gets the armor while charging but also a cool bonus.
What about Jin's d+KK? I'm scared of that getting spammed now cuz he can do db+KK, keeping his block for tight strings. You can try to throw it or jump the punch out of it and punish, but he switches to the AA kick and half your life is gone. For a character with a great ranged game, I'm not sure what to do when I close the gap yet.
I've been doing HP but negative edge should be smoother so I'll try that. Are you comfortable with f+MP > MP > f+MP > MK? I'm not yet. I've been going for f+MK > MP > f+MP > wind roll > c.LP > c.HP > (going to try to work an elbow in here).
What about Jin's d+KK? I'm scared of that getting spammed now cuz he can do db+KK, keeping his block for tight strings. You can try to throw it or jump the punch out of it and punish, but he switches to the AA kick and half your life is gone. For a character with a great ranged game, I'm not sure what to do when I close the gap yet.
I've been doing HP but negative edge should be smoother so I'll try that. Are you comfortable with f+MP > MP > f+MP > MK? I'm not yet. I've been going for f+MK > MP > f+MP > wind roll > c.LP > c.HP > (going to try to work an elbow in here).
CountBlack
Member
This online is so fucking bullshit sometimes.
I'm playing ranked. I get a hit confirm, I try to finish the whole cross rush, game skips back a frame or two and he blocks it all and I whiff a launcher and get bodied for it.
What the fuck, its so stupid
I'm playing ranked. I get a hit confirm, I try to finish the whole cross rush, game skips back a frame or two and he blocks it all and I whiff a launcher and get bodied for it.
What the fuck, its so stupid
KO Traveling Hobo
Member
Speaking of music, the bgm for the hovercraft-being-chased-by-mammoth stage sounds like it was taken straight out of Phantasy Star Online. Anyone else notice this or am I crazy?
Also, Rolento is OP as hell in scrub-zone. My friend and I ended up semi-banning him because we couldn't deal with his speed, range, and priority. Are there any tricks to overcoming him, or is it just something that will come with time/practice?
Also, Rolento is OP as hell in scrub-zone. My friend and I ended up semi-banning him because we couldn't deal with his speed, range, and priority. Are there any tricks to overcoming him, or is it just something that will come with time/practice?
I've only had a few laggy games in ranked, but I agree. When the teleporting bull shit starts it makes me rage like no other.
I get "pro players" prefer the GGPO method of roll backs, but I much prefer the MvC3/SF4 way of just making it chug like a bitch till it d/cs the match.
Oh and last night was delicious. Two fools with over 2kBP each(one had 5k I think) were on a team together in ranked, I smash them, then right at the end as they are about to lose they rage out together.
#stayfreebuttbuddies
QisTopTier
XisBannedTier
Backdashes and alpha counters, also jump kick him in the face when he tries stupid pogo shit.
Or just ban him and get owned by him later more cause you got mad about it
Teknopathetic
Member
"I've been doing HP but negative edge should be smoother so I'll try that. Are you comfortable with f+MP > MP > f+MP > MK? I'm not yet. I've been going for f+MK > MP > f+MP > wind roll > c.LP > c.HP > (going to try to work an elbow in here)."
I just do c.LP > c.HP and likewise I'm working on doing elbows after that more consistently, but I'm starting to hit my "execution" plateau. I didn't realize Julia would end up being the most execution heavy character in the game. I tried getting c.HP after elbow for an hour or two and I'm pretty sure it's the hardest thing I've ever tried in a fighting game, at least as far as single moves/links go.
I just do c.LP > c.HP and likewise I'm working on doing elbows after that more consistently, but I'm starting to hit my "execution" plateau. I didn't realize Julia would end up being the most execution heavy character in the game. I tried getting c.HP after elbow for an hour or two and I'm pretty sure it's the hardest thing I've ever tried in a fighting game, at least as far as single moves/links go.
KO Traveling Hobo
Member
I wasn't kidding about "scrub-zone" -- I had to google what "alpha counters" are. Thanks guys, I'll give it a shot.
Does that link even come into play? Every time I use elbow, it leaves me far enough that my only way to combo is c.LK, though I've mainly been zoning with it.
Teknopathetic
Member
"Does that link even come into play? Every time I use elbow, it leaves me far enough that my only way to combo is c.LK, though I've mainly been zoning with it."
c.HP actually has a surprising amount of range, but it does require that you have elbowed relatively close. Apparently it is possible, but it is size specific (I didn't know that until just now).
Edit: Yeah, the link is much easier when you try it on characters it actually works on
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c.HP actually has a surprising amount of range, but it does require that you have elbowed relatively close. Apparently it is possible, but it is size specific (I didn't know that until just now).
Edit: Yeah, the link is much easier when you try it on characters it actually works on
.Probably because they wanted the tagging mechanics to take the place of SFIV's focus attack/cancel mechanics which were mapped to MP+MK. So when they wanted to implement Alpha counters they had to use a different set of buttons.
MiniBossBattle
Member
Fighting it hard when you or your opponent have iffy connections.
I just wanted to use this gif
Cloudius12
Member
Yeah, while blocking baton hit f+hp+hk and mash hp+hk a bit and you'll burn a bar to counterattack.
LeMaximilian
Alligator F*ck House
There's a lot of conflicting opinions when it comes to SFxT's online, so I tried to make a complete review of the online mode comparing it to other fighters and giving them scores too.
SFxT The Online Warrior: Episode 4 'Online Mode Review'
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=joV0cuQJvgQ
SFxT The Online Warrior: Episode 4 'Online Mode Review'
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=joV0cuQJvgQ
:-/
online magazine level review - game is released broken and still not fixed - 8/10 haha
QisTopTier
XisBannedTier
Except the online for the most part *if you mute it* is damn near perfect.
It honestly feels as smooth as BB
SC netcode is amazing as fuck though.
Riposte
Member
Are you saying that if you don't pay attention to sound drops it is flawless (in appearance) or there is a way to improve it if you somehow mute it?
it feels good for the most part - but capcom is not some small indie company.
they should have the ability to test their product at least once.
QisTopTier
XisBannedTier
Outside of some random weird connection issues between players which I'm assuming is firewall related on peoples routers. *sf3 had the same issue actually* Yes when you mute the game it is damn near flawless.
No game connecting with a high ping between players will play good this is just going off 4 and 3 bar connections at worst.
But even 2 bars at times isnt that bad.
SolarPowered
Member
Vanilla Marvel's online was absolutely terrible. My first two months in the game were spent fighting 2nd and 1st lords with 600+ matches even though I had barely passed five dozen myself. The fact that trying to search manually did not work at all was even worse and sometimes it took ten minutes to find someone by just sitting in a training room. This all happened even though 800k people bought the game in the first month. SFxT looks like a godsend compared to that. It'll be a fantastic step forward for Capcom if they sick with the GGPO style netcode and improve on it with delay settings(future games) and sound fixes.
You should also really buy BB:Extend if only to try the online portions and the characters. Training mode in lobbies before matches, online that set the bar for fighters until SCV came along(like three years ago now) and tons of lobby options for unlimited characters, player rotation and time settings. Game was packed in the online sector ever since CT came out back in the SFIV Vanilla days. Also, Spectator was there since the first release lol.
You should also really buy BB:Extend if only to try the online portions and the characters. Training mode in lobbies before matches, online that set the bar for fighters until SCV came along(like three years ago now) and tons of lobby options for unlimited characters, player rotation and time settings. Game was packed in the online sector ever since CT came out back in the SFIV Vanilla days. Also, Spectator was there since the first release lol.
ihearthawthats
Banned
i don't know, the netcode in this game feels really good. but maybe its just the fact that i'm distracted by custom music, which mvc3 didn't have.
+1solarpowered said:
Shouta
Member
Definitely not flawless without sound. It's pretty janky even with a good connection between players. If you're used to it, you can tell where the frames drop and how it isn't as smooth as it is offline. Anything lower than 3 or 4 bars is utterly unplayable, even 3 can be pushing it at times. There's some very tight stuff on Kuma I could try and do but is impossible to land online.
LeMaximilian
Alligator F*ck House
Based off the 6 games played on both platforms. In the perspective of fighting games, the feel of SFxT really holds up as being one of the most accurate. For the PS3 version, if the sound was fixed and felt the same, it would be a 9/10.
i told you guys my pad was broken the 100th time now.
you can even see at 1:14 where a random quick combo comes out.
the inputs would scramble. but whatever i'll get a new pad and i'll come back ready to take you all on
SolarPowered
Member
I hate SFIV and am not fond of SFxT, but I do hope he gets well. Let's hope that no one starts posting dumb shit.
No sound can be a deal breaker for a lot of people. I know I wouldn't bother with Extend if that sound issue was prevalent.
He's a cool guy. Hope he gets better
Slamtastic
Member
Oh shit, I thought I was just being trolled by stream monsters
I may not love his games, but at least he made games in the genre, that's better than not having any.
Kai Dracon
Writing a dinosaur space opera symphony
One of the things that endeared me most to SFxT - that has nothing to do with gameplay - is the way the 4th way is liberally broken with posters of Ono and Harada "in character" in the stages, and his wind up blanka toy sneaked into the matte art everywhere in the game. Like in the menu backrounds and stuff.
People can say what they want, but it can't be denied that Ono one of the most self-effacing developers ever, and self mocking. That alone is worth its weight in gold in this industry.
People can say what they want, but it can't be denied that Ono one of the most self-effacing developers ever, and self mocking. That alone is worth its weight in gold in this industry.
I like the Dolls Billboard. You rarely see them referenced in Street Fighter games.
ThatCrazyGuy
Member
Get well Ono!
You damn lovable troll!!!
You damn lovable troll!!!
Sorry if old, but I just saw another pretty cool Cantonese(Mandarin?) SFxT live action spoof on youtube. I didn't understand anything but it was still a fun watch:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HWML600WmpY
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HWML600WmpY
abstract alien
Member
I lack even the most basic of skills needed to play this game properly. Anyone care to run a few games with me? Show me...
PSN: xenoetry
PSN: xenoetry
DR2K
Banned
Yeah the sound effects should knock it down a few points, just because sound to me is very integral to hit confirms. The quality is decent, but the lack of rematch option and the amount of time to get inbetween matches is totally unreasonable. Installation should be required before you go online.
Played and won 10 straight matches in ranked. Not touching it ever again. Some of them I had to wait like 5 minutes to connect.
Ran into a 4000bp guy, thought he was going to whup my ass. He's worse than Panda.
Also using his own tricks against him, a runaway jump back fireball Akuma was hilarious.
Ran into a 4000bp guy, thought he was going to whup my ass. He's worse than Panda.
Also using his own tricks against him, a runaway jump back fireball Akuma was hilarious.
dragonballjoseph
Member
Dat Lili Pandora technology.
Which I totally did on purpose!!!
Which I totally did on purpose!!!
DR2K
Banned
Bull shit, lol. I keep forgetting she has that move.
Characters horizontally next to each other on the select screen. i.e. Chun + Cammy, Julia + Bob, etc
Also when you select a character the cursor should go to their partner by default, unless you're just reselecting your previously chosen mismatched team.
Incendiary
Banned
Friends are over and they're playing SFxT and they're all choosing Ken/Ryu and button-mashing. I want to yell at them.