Yeah, I'd get behind this. Anything is a step in the right direction from where it is currently.
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Yeah, I'd get behind this. Anything is a step in the right direction from where it is currently.
What's the right way to block the Ogre multi kick thing? Like he starts low, goes high, then it goes low multiple times again, but I've fucked up everytime one has done that(only fought like 2 that did it), and never got to see what happens after that or how to block.
The Return of
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sounds like a good idea to me
voodoopanda
Member
I want to see more super/cross arts use, mainly because of recoverable health. I'm curious to see how much of an affect it'd have, since supers don't give any recoverable health and cross arts take all of it away. Those long combos with EX moves and switch cancels give tons of recoverable health but seem to be more popular, based on recent tournaments. Seems like not being able to heal up like 25%-50% of your health over the course of the match would help with time outs.
So block standing, standing, crouching, then standing for the rest? Is he punishable after it or can he cancel it into something then you can punish?
I haven't hit the lab against it, will be doing that tonight probably. So I can't say for sure, but looking at the frame data:
Second hit you block high, 3rd you block low, all others it doesn't matter. It's punishable after the last hit it looks like. Might be punishable after the mid hit too.
After my bouts with Q last night I'm more worried about julia now. Don't know shit about her, that damn backdash and crumble mid hit are such a bitch.
QisTopTier
XisBannedTier
It's special cancelable who gives a fuck about the recovery
Good, both Kazuya and king can stand or crouch jab into a combo hopefully.
Agreed about Julia. Fuck if I know what she's doing lol. I just rush her ass down and bait out DP's on her wake up. I know that if I'm far away to just block high so I don't get crumpled by her lunge punch.
Oops, missed that. I don't know my Ogre.
QisTopTier
XisBannedTier
free 50/50's for life
TheFightingFish
Member
Yeah, I kinda feel like UltraDavid is complaining about many of the mechanics in the game being rather poorly implemented. And in that sense I quite agree with him as both Pandora and Cross Assault seem rather silly and only occasionally useful, especially to lower level players like me. But unlike UltraDavid the addition of poorly implemented mechanics don't really bug me as long as I can just ignore them and just enjoy the rest of the game. UltraDavid really likes the theory stuff, so I can see it bugging him more that extra unneeded crap is in the game.
I just made D+ today, and this was only due to running into like three straight gray or black color Ken, Ryu, Akuma teams that pretty clearly were just flowchart Kens from SFIV playing SFxT for the first time. Also tossed my claw twice mid-match, and not as a taunt, just me spazzing out on the buttons and messing up inputs. So yeah, I'm terrible, having fun though, and I'm actually starting to get a little bit cleaner on my inputs, trying to do lots of different trials (though I usually stall out in the high teens currently) and getting used to not pressing buttons all the time.
QisTopTier
XisBannedTier
The "vagina" tax is normally there for good reason
Shouta
Member
It's very smart to use them actually, it minimizes regenerating health. They take time but they also reduce your opponent's pool of resources. So even when switching they don't get extra life. It helps to minimize timeouts some.
And that is?
QisTopTier
XisBannedTier
Stupid question. Comeback to me when you can analyze character design better
You mean they usually have fast pokes and agility? Does that mean rufus is sporting a muff?
Teknopathetic
Member
"Fun fact: Julia is the first female not to recieve a vagina tax from Ono's team."
Actually, Makoto got her vagina tax removed in AE...only to get it back in 2012.
"You mean they usually have fast pokes and agility? Does that mean rufus is sporting a muff?"
Well, Rufus does have low stun in SF4. Generally speaking I can't really think of too many reasons why a character like Chun-li has low health, yet very similar playstyle characters (Balrog/Vega) don't, however Chun-li does have higher than average stun, apparently.
Actually, Makoto got her vagina tax removed in AE...only to get it back in 2012.
"You mean they usually have fast pokes and agility? Does that mean rufus is sporting a muff?"
Well, Rufus does have low stun in SF4. Generally speaking I can't really think of too many reasons why a character like Chun-li has low health, yet very similar playstyle characters (Balrog/Vega) don't, however Chun-li does have higher than average stun, apparently.
DR2K
Banned
Usually speed, damage, and mobility would be the trade off. Julia excels in all of that though, but then you have a character like Raven that has those qualities, but no health nerf in sight.
I'm not seeing why Nina needs the low health for example. Not yet anyways.
This guy for real?
DR2K
Banned
Oh yeah. I can see that happening with Julia now, lol.
Ya it seems to me the vagina tax is something that used to be needed when females were all stuck in that agile pokey category and all the males were slow heavy hitters. That's not the case anymore, and now it just seems they kneejerk apply it without actually thinking it through. Nina being a good example.
akuma, fuerte, yun, yang, seth, dhalsim, vega all confirmed to be female
very well deserved too.Teknopathic said:
Teknopathetic
Member
"Usually speed, damage, and mobility would be the trade off. Julia excels in all of that though, but then you have a character like Raven that has those qualities, but no health nerf in sight."
Julia doesn't excel in speed at all, damage is pretty average for the cast.
Julia doesn't excel in speed at all, damage is pretty average for the cast.
Her backdash isn't excelling in speed?
Riposte
Member
DC Douglas factor
Teknopathetic
Member
"Her backdash isn't excelling in speed?"
Her backdash is only a single aspect. She still has slower than average walk speed and pretty slow normals.
Her backdash is only a single aspect. She still has slower than average walk speed and pretty slow normals.
DR2K
Banned
Her back dash is very fast.
Teknopathetic
Member
See above. One thing doesn't make an entire character "fast" when the majority of their qualities are slow.
I think it was to do with the chain combos and especially the Tekken strings in SFxTK, on block you could just spam throw and the throw would win. I think the few chain combos in SF4 tend to put them into autoblock. You can still throw someone's limb but it's not something you can just mash during a blockstring now.
QisTopTier
XisBannedTier
Yo guys I heard Gouken is one of the fastest characters in sf4
Incendiary
Banned
I think I spoiled myself by training with King first. Now I'm training with Hwoarang and Law and the damage they do seems piddling in comparison.
7-hit combo with King no meter? 350-400 damage.
7-hit combo with Law no meter? 200-250 damage.
7-hit combo with King no meter? 350-400 damage.
7-hit combo with Law no meter? 200-250 damage.
DR2K
Banned
Her foward dash it pretty fast too, and her qcf k are deceptivley quick and cover a lot of space. Plus her qcf lp covers a lot of range quickly. If not fast then she's at the very least incredibly mobile.
Dhalsim is quick as hell
Shouta
Member
I think I spoiled myself by training with King first. Now I'm training with Hwoarang and Law and the damage they do seems piddling in comparison.
7-hit combo with King no meter? 350-400 damage.
7-hit combo with Law no meter? 200-250 damage.
Law > King in damage output. Law has free EXs and supers all over the place. He also has more ways of landing the damage.
GrayFoxPL
Member
He's black and a ninja - you can't nerf that shit momma.
QisTopTier
XisBannedTier
What the fuck, why are my hands starting to hurt.... ah fuck.. no
Shouta
Member
That's why you need bear claws.
QisTopTier
XisBannedTier
GAHAHAHAHA. Kuma is a fucking walking disjointed hitbox I swear.