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[yacobod]

with a level head, i still think strikeforce should make fedor versus overeem, if he fights reem and then retires, i would be totally cool with that

going out fighting a guy like giant silva would be very underwhelming, hell i'd rather have him fight mo lawal

i guess the other interesting subplot coming out of it is, how does fedor rebound after a loss?

i guess fedor losing his first fight was the lead in story on ESPN just now

 

[Sinatar]

But it's cool. Fedor's the man for what he accomplished, and this won't change that, just the aura of invulnerability and the hype. I'm fine with that, and fine with where we're headed as a sport.

This. What Fedor has accomplished will never be tarnished, he's still the GOAT.

 

[dream]

with a level head, i still think strikeforce should make fedor versus overeem, if he fights reem and then retires, i would be totally cool with that

It's a tough spot to be in. Booking Fedor vs Overeem is the best thing they could do for business but it would kill their title if Fedor won.

 

[Big Baybee]

This. What Fedor has accomplished will never be tarnished, he's still the GOAT.

:lol

 

[EraldoCoil]

just got home from my buddies house, can't say i'm too shocked with Fedor's loss. I told my friend this morning i have a feeling he may lose, but oh well, no man is invincible or untouchable. and props to Werdum for pulling the W.

The rest of the card was ok, Cyborg won as expected but i have a ton of respect for Finney, she showed a ton of heart and courage tonight, Gonzaga could learn a thing or two from her.

Le/Smith was ok, and Thompson was on his way to losing that fight but pulled the sub late so props to him on that.

 

[Buba Big Guns]

:lol

Ahhh man that was disappointing

 

[EraldoCoil]

Oh, Bet the fucking house on James Toney against Couture

Video game cover curse is in full effect.

 

[unomas]

Holy shit! Didn't see it live but amazing!

 

[Future PhaZe]

After watching the fight I just kind of chuckled. I'm as far from a Fedor nuthugger as you can be but that fight didn't really prove anything. Just took an opponent lightly and got caught, props to Werdum for finishing.

Don't mistake Fedor for Cop, dude can still seriously bang. If he goes to the UFC and gets the belt along with defending then this loss will be forgotten. People will scream for a rematch, but to me it's just a waste of time.

 

[hulkamania-owns-you]

god fucking damnit fedor.

what a joke, hey lets jump on the ground with this fucker and hand him our arm and neck.


fuck i was in shock, listened to his interview, shed a tear then flew out the front door and raged in the moonlit streets.

i fucking stomped a bird dead flat in one stride, and kicked some fucking animal into oblivian without even thinking twice. god damn

 

[dem]

LOL

Fedor LOST???

:lol :lol :lol :lol


Just watched the fight.. saw it was like a minute long.. so figured "fuck.. werdum got smashed"



Fucking Fedor. He just blew it.
He could have made huge cash with the ufc..

 

[polyh3dron]

I'm glad that I met the man and got the autograph of the man who beat Fedor. WAR WERDUM! Even though Übereem will destroy you.

 

[SnakeXs]

Just saw the main event...

...

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[the_log_ride]

I thoroughly enjoyed that event...

 

[smurfx]

fedor losing to werdum might be better for strikeforce than fedor beating werdum. now that werdum beat fedor he is going to have a lot of hype behind him and since he holds a win over overeem they won't have a hard time selling that fight. strikeforce can now force m-1 to sign an extension if fedor is to fight the winner of werdum/overeem. they will also have all the leverage in the negotiations. if fedors team declines then they will just let him fight silva or some other heavyweight and then let fedor go away. no way will they let him anywhere near werdum without strikeforce getting something back in return that is worth something.

 

[Sinatar]

fedor losing to werdum might be better for strikeforce than fedor beating werdum. now that werdum beat fedor he is going to have a lot of hype behind him and since he holds a win over overeem they won't have a hard time selling that fight. strikeforce can now force m-1 to sign an extension if fedor is to fight the winner of werdum/overeem. they will also have all the leverage in the negotiations. if fedors team declines then they will just let him fight silva or some other heavyweight and then let fedor go away. no way will they let him anywhere near werdum without strikeforce getting something back in return that is worth something.

Strikeforce was looking to get into the PPV business, their first PPV was going to be Fedor vs. Overreem.

That's straight down the shitter. There is no way they can convince people to pay for Werdum vs. Overreem.

 

[smurfx]

Strikeforce was looking to get into the PPV business, their first PPV was going to be Fedor vs. Overreem.

That's straight down the shitter. There is no way they can convince people to pay for Werdum vs. Overreem.

they can delay the ppv and have fedor face off against the winner. also lets be real here. fedor/overeem wasn't going to get a ton of ppv buys either. at most it would of gotten 150k ppv's buys. have overeem/werdum on cbs and hype the shit out of that fight and then have fedor fight the winner.

 

[Host Samurai]

Wow. I hate seeing a PRIDE fighter loose but he really has not been fighting the best. Alistor would have killed him IMO. The ring is a totally different ball game than the cage IMO.

EDIT didnt know that they were both PRIDE fighters. I wish Fedor won so that we would have gotten a Fedor Overeem fight. Now Fedor will never fight in UFC with rumors of retirement

 

[painey]

We will never get to see Fedor v Overeem or Fedor v Brock now

 

[dream]

Strikeforce was looking to get into the PPV business, their first PPV was going to be Fedor vs. Overreem.

That's straight down the shitter. There is no way they can convince people to pay for Werdum vs. Overreem.

Never say never with Strikeforce though. This is the same company that gave Bret Rogers a title shot coming off of a loss and used a catchweight fight to determine the #1 contender in the two weight classes that sandwiched it.

 

[Timedog]

Wow. I hate seeing a PRIDE fighter loose but he really has not been fighting the best. Alistor would have killed him IMO. The ring is a totally different ball game than the cage IMO.

EDIT didnt know that they were both PRIDE fighters. I wish Fedor won so that we would have gotten a Fedor Overeem fight. Now Fedor will never fight in UFC with rumors of retirement

Err, what??

 

[Balya]

After watching the fight on Youtube, found a good song for Fedor:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NU-mMw0ACHE

 

[DKehoe]

Big Fedor fan so was sad to see him lose. But on the other hand this takes away a lot of the leverage M1 has for negotiating so hopefully we can see him in UFC soon.

 

[Rur0ni]

Err, what??

I too thought Fedor would lose to Overeem. Fedor could've beat Werdum no problem, just got sloppy. Still, shame for him.

 

[RBH]

 

[sooperkool]

This is why every Fuddrucker's in my area is closed.

 

[Fio]

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:lol


I also lost some money in the Silva x Maia fight. But I'm stubborn and I put some money on Werdum last night, got all my money back and bragging rights over some friends, even though I'm a Fedor fanboy myself.

Also,

[IMG]http://i48.tinypic.com/2mf0o3q.jpg

Surreal.

 

[RBH]

This is why every Fuddrucker's in my area is closed.

:lol

 

[polyh3dron]

This. What Fedor has accomplished will never be tarnished, he's still the GOAT.

You have to admit though, he has had shitty opponents ever since he left PRIDE. Hell, even in PRIDE he fought Zuluzinho after beating Cro Cop.

 

[charsace]

Fedor went in like Werdum was anyone else an paid for it. After his arm got caught he tried to get into side control, but it was too late. The snake already wrapped him up.

 

[Instro]

:lol :lol Completely forgot about this last night, fuck Fedor glad he got beat.

 

[polyh3dron]

Hey I just remembered something... Didn't Fedor's manager say that the WAMMA belt would be on the line? WTF where is that shit?

 

[polyh3dron]

He should have bet on Cyborg.

 

[unomas]

There are so many things that went belly up with this fight.

M-1 and their bullshit negotiating power.

Overeem versus Fedor on PPV.

The UFC "needing" Fedor to legitimize their heavyweight division.


People can say Fedor made a mistake etc. etc, but he's supposed to be the GOAT, is he really that arrogant to think he can leave his arm dangling around against a real worldclass BJJ fighter? Werdum baited him into the entire thing, and Fedor completely fell for it.

Fedor lost to a guy who went 2-2 in the UFC, of course Fedor is an amazing fighter, but he hasn't faced top competition for a long time. If he faced Lesnar, Carwin, Dos Santos, Cain, and Mir he would not come out with a 5-0 record.

I don't like Dana acting like a child with his tweets, but the bottom line is at least on this one business wise he was right. The UFC would have been unbelievably stupid to give M-1 Global have of anything and offer them co-promotion when all they had was Fedor to bring to the table. Fedor should not be ranked top P4P or the top Heavyweight after this loss. Anderson Silva would not have gone to the ground with Werdum like that, he knows better.

Hopefully this ends the bullshit that is M-1 global.

 

[Eggo]

There are so many things that went belly up with this fight.

M-1 and their bullshit negotiating power.

Overeem versus Fedor on PPV.

The UFC "needing" Fedor to legitimize their heavyweight division.


People can say Fedor made a mistake etc. etc, but he's supposed to be the GOAT, is he really that arrogant to think he can leave his arm dangling around against a real worldclass BJJ fighter? Werdum baited him into the entire thing, and Fedor completely fell for it.

Fedor lost to a guy who went 2-2 in the UFC, of course Fedor is an amazing fighter, but he hasn't faced top competition for a long time. If he faced Lesnar, Carwin, Dos Santos, Cain, and Mir he would not come out with a 5-0 record.

I don't like Dana acting like a child with his tweets, but the bottom line is at least on this one business wise he was right. The UFC would have been unbelievably stupid to give M-1 Global have of anything and offer them co-promotion when all they had was Fedor to bring to the table. Fedor should not be ranked top P4P or the top Heavyweight after this loss. Anderson Silva would not have gone to the ground with Werdum like that, he knows better.

Hopefully this ends the bullshit that is M-1 global.

Yup, Fedor just sank M1 and possibly Strikeforce. He was their meal ticket, and now that's gone. Fedor can still draw, but not like he was before this. Look at all the big Strikeforce shows, and they all had Fedor fighting on them. Now that the mystique is gone, who does Strikeforce have who can sell a PPV?

As for the future, hope they put Fedor vs the winner of Overeem/Werdum. That makes the most sense draw-wise. But is that Fedor's final fight on the Strikeforce contract, or does he have one more after that?

 

[pel1300]

You have to admit though, he has had shitty opponents ever since he left PRIDE. Hell, even in PRIDE he fought Zuluzinho after beating Cro Cop.

uh..Sylvia..Arlovski..Rogers?

Don't give me that crap that they aren't ranked now. Sylvia was ranked in the top 10 when they fought and Arlovski was ranked #2. Bett Rogers was also ranked in the top 10 when he fought Fedor.

 

[BSsBrolly]

I dont understand where all this Fedor hate is coming from. He loses and all of a sudden hes the most hated fighter on the planet...

 

[yacobod]

mma-math is pretty fun tho, is JDS number 1 by virtue of his KO win of werdum, or when big country taps JDS, will he be better than werdum and fedor and be the new GOAT, and then will arlovski be better than them all for tkoing nelson, and is carwin going to be the number 1 heavyweight when he KOs lesnar next week, you see where i'm going

fedor lost, it had to happen eventually, all the best guys have some less than stellar losses on their record, see chonnan subbing anderson, gsp getting dropped by serra, etc etc

the funniest thing is all the fedor haters that are puffing out their chests and calling that they predicted the outcome is bullshit and a farce, they always take a contrarian stance and pick each challenger to unseat the man, it just so it happened last night, anyone who really thought werdum was going to win that fight is/was a liar

hell most of the ppl were saying why even make this match? and dismissing werdum outright, hindsight is always funny, just go back to the first page of this thread

 

[bone_and_sinew]

But is that Fedor's final fight on the Strikeforce contract, or does he have one more after that?

He's got one more left.

 

[SolidSnakex]

uh..Sylvia..Arlovski..Rogers?

Don't give me that crap that they aren't ranked now. Sylvia was ranked in the top 10 when they fought and Arlovski was ranked #2. Bett Rogers was also ranked in the top 10 when he fought Fedor.

You should've stopped at Arlovski. The only person that Rogers beat that anyone has any respect for is Arlovski. And he did that after Fedor steamrolled him.

 

[Sinatar]

I dont understand where all this Fedor hate is coming from. He loses and all of a sudden hes the most hated fighter on the planet...

It's human nature unfortunately. The higher someone climbs, the more people look forward to him falling.

 

[NinjaCodah]

I love Fedor, but I believe that this is the best thing that could happen. Not that he isn't worth anything now, but his stock just went down big time. He can't ride that perfect record anymore and the last couple of years of fighting bums is finally catching up with him. He'll need to work hard to come back from this and be ranked no.1 ever again. There are no other way around it, he needs to avenge his loss to Werdum (easy) and then go to the UFC and win the HW belt.

Now, I'm just hopeful that he cares about that kind of stuff. I'm very much looking forward to see him fight more than once every 10 months. Please Fedor, do it!

 

[unomas]

I dont understand where all this Fedor hate is coming from. He loses and all of a sudden hes the most hated fighter on the planet...

I think most of the hate comes from the fact that he has yet to fight in the UFC, as well as the forced co-promotion issue. I also think for him being so "humble" alot of his own hype went to his head. He talked in his post fight presser how people looked at him like an idol, it's very easy for that to go to your head regardless of how humble you have been in the past. I think Fedor is a good guy, but there are many reasons why people were excited about the loss.

 

[Pimpwerx]

Oh, Bet the fucking house on James Toney against Couture

Video game cover curse is in full effect.

WTF? Is Randy Couture going to fight the guy whose career Roy Jones Jr. destroyed in a single fight? RJR humiliated him to win the belt like 15 years ago. How is Toney still around, much less able to fight Randy? PEACE.

 

[polyh3dron]

uh..Sylvia..Arlovski..Rogers?

Don't give me that crap that they aren't ranked now. Sylvia was ranked in the top 10 when they fought and Arlovski was ranked #2. Bett Rogers was also ranked in the top 10 when he fought Fedor.

Sylvia and Arlovski were big fish in a little pond, ruling the UFC HW when it was beyond shitty. Rogers' only top 10 win was over Arlovski and Overeem ANNIHILATED him.

 

[riskVSreward]

Sherdog is so salty right now. :lol :lol :lol :lol

This just cements the fact that Fedor isn't #1 P4P, and IMO hasn't been for about 4 years. GSP is the king of MMA, look at the caliber of opponent he's been fighting since '06 and compare it to Fedor. It's a no-brainer. I'm not saying Fedor is trash, he's clearly one of the best, but his legacy has been embellished for quite some time now.

It's also hilarious that he wants to rush into a rematch. Under what grounds does a first minute submission warrant a rematch? He'll probably lose again anyway.

 

[dem]

Fedor may well still be the best heavyweight out there..

but this goes to show what most smart people thought..
If he went to the UFC.. he wouldn't come out undefeated. He isn't unbeatable.

I still want him to come to the UFC.

I still think Cain Velasquez beats him.

 

[Sinatar]

Sherdog is so salty right now. :lol :lol :lol :lol

This just cements the fact that Fedor isn't #1 P4P, and IMO hasn't been for about 4 years. GSP is the king of MMA, look at the caliber of opponent he's been fighting since '06 and compare it to Fedor. It's a no-brainer. I'm not saying Fedor is trash, he's clearly one of the best, but his legacy has been embellished for quite some time now.

It's also hilarious that he wants to rush into a rematch. Under what grounds does a first minute submission warrant a rematch? He'll probably lose again anyway.

I'm a huge GSP fan, but losing to Matt Serra is several magnitudes worse then losing to Werdum.

 

[yacobod]

It's also hilarious that he wants to rush into a rematch. Under what grounds does a first minute submission warrant a rematch? He'll probably lose again anyway.

being undefeated for 10 years+ bud

and if he never goes to the ground, there is absolutely 0 chance he loses to werdum standing, he can just pull an anderson silva and dance around and not engage and be the fucking best fighter in the world man, i mean why should he go to the ground with a 2 time world BJJ champ :lol

 

[Kusagari]

Sherdog is so salty right now. :lol :lol :lol :lol

This just cements the fact that Fedor isn't #1 P4P, and IMO hasn't been for about 4 years. GSP is the king of MMA, look at the caliber of opponent he's been fighting since '06 and compare it to Fedor. It's a no-brainer. I'm not saying Fedor is trash, he's clearly one of the best, but his legacy has been embellished for quite some time now.

It's also hilarious that he wants to rush into a rematch. Under what grounds does a first minute submission warrant a rematch? He'll probably lose again anyway.

Silva is the king of MMA even if he dances around like a dumbass.