Batman has a great Rogues gallery. They don't need Joker every chance they get. Especially here, where it seems he doesn't have much presence, and is thrown in because Harley and Batman are in it.
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Suicide Squad Review Thread: As Fresh As Green Lantern!
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Batman has a great Rogues gallery. They don't need Joker every chance they get. Especially here, where it seems he doesn't have much presence, and is thrown in because Harley and Batman are in it.
Yeah...did no one ever saw Mark Hamill's The Joker from the cartoon and Rocksteady games? Do that!! Fuck man.
Also, top 5 for me:
1. Spiderman 2
2. Batman Mask Of Phantasm / Batman Begins - Similar and same level for me.
3. Iron Man
4. Blade 2
5. The Incredibles
DrROBschiz
Member
I dunno
I have a close friend who is a DC nut whose opinion i respect (he liked BvS and I didnt but we had some great conversations about it) only hit the movie for its first act
Outside of that he called the movie good. I can roll with that
Is this hate train just overreactions based on the precedent set by BvS? I also am hearing a lot of reports of how nasty this movie was cut up (much like BvS)
But thats how you make movies. Maybe there are less talented EDITORS in their employ?
I have a close friend who is a DC nut whose opinion i respect (he liked BvS and I didnt but we had some great conversations about it) only hit the movie for its first act
Outside of that he called the movie good. I can roll with that
Is this hate train just overreactions based on the precedent set by BvS? I also am hearing a lot of reports of how nasty this movie was cut up (much like BvS)
But thats how you make movies. Maybe there are less talented EDITORS in their employ?
Captain Smoker
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My Top 5:
1.) The Dark Knight
1.) Guardians of the Galaxy
1.) Watchmen
4.) The Avengers
5.) Man of Steel
1.) The Dark Knight
1.) Guardians of the Galaxy
1.) Watchmen
4.) The Avengers
5.) Man of Steel
TheSecondSpitter
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No STEEL on these lists either but I'm pretty sure it's considered a SH flick.
Cuts are super obvious. While you're watching you can point out, "yep, there's a scene missing there. There's a scene missing here." You can do that almost the entire way through.
Same.
TheSecondSpitter
Member
Kick-Ass stripped out the most meaningful parts of the GN.
Indelible
Member
The thing I dislike about Joe's movie reviews is that his friends hardly ever have a different opinion to his, they are basically just there to back up his opinion. Makes for a very boring video.
For the better, Millar's novel is ass.
biggersmaller
Banned
This movie turning out to be garbage is so disappointing. I'm still going to see it with a sliver of hope I like it nonetheless.
No apology needed. Watchmen Ultimate Cut is so good. Yes, it's 3.5 hours long - but it's needed to do the graphic novel justice. It's too bad the theatrical version (rightfully) turned people off to that movie.
No apology needed. Watchmen Ultimate Cut is so good. Yes, it's 3.5 hours long - but it's needed to do the graphic novel justice. It's too bad the theatrical version (rightfully) turned people off to that movie.
You could tell that from the on set stories about him. He's too far up his own ass. Ooo I'm going to send my costars creepy things ooo.
Hilarious that Thor 2 keeps getting brought up. It's not special in anyway.
Watched it fairly recently and thought it was a more competent movie than the DCEU's output so far.
Haven't seen Suicide Squad yet though, but man is this picking at low hanging fruit if I've ever seen it.
GOAT DC films well be Nolan's for a long ass time. Same might go for the genre as well.
Yeezus H. Christ
Banned
The only superhero film I'm convinced that has the potential to match TDK is Coogler's Black Panther.
cr0w
Old Member
Guardians is charming as hell, and that makes up for a lot of the shortcomings people will pick apart. The combination of Gunn's writing and the cast do wonders for that movie.
Iron Man was great for its time, but going back to watch it after seeing a dozen or so films with the same structure and plot points will make it feel tired and overrated. When it came out, though, it was a revelation.
If Coogler gets to make the movie he wants I could see this being true. If he has to eat that Marvel pie than I'd peg it right under the last two Cap movies.
CaptainofIndustry
Member
I'll have to check out the ultimate cut, I actually liked the theatrical release.
bob_arctor
Tough_Smooth
Oh man, I really hope you are right. It is the Marvel movie I am most looking forward to, easily. Doc Strange will be good too I think but BP will be on another level hopefully.
peanutbutterlatte
Member
So... Middle of the road shit?
I kid, but man I don't get why Spider-Man 2 is
so highly revered. The main character is completely unlikable.
To be fair, watchmen is almost impossible to make as a standard movie. What we got I think was great.
Admiral Woofington
Member
Well that's the thing with most people who go to watch movies with friends. You all tend to enjoy the same things.
Redlettermedia goes to watch films with the mentality they'll be viewing it critically and don't discuss it until they get to record the episode. Joe and these guys likely start discussing it as they're walking out of the theater and on the way home.
Diprosalic
Banned
Guardians is great, y'all jokers must be crazy
Can't really blame him.
In his Justice League reaction, where Joe found the reveal underwhelming, look at the amount of dislikes and hate comments. He had to make a response video to try and calm down these nutty fanboys.
Yeezus H. Christ
Banned
He's co-writing and directing the film, I don't think a first-timer has ever been given this much freedom by Marvel. Considering how much power Feige now has, I don't doubt Ryan has all the creative control he needs. The 90% African-American cast might have even been a request from Coogler.
Maybe to some hardcore comic fans.
peanutbutterlatte
Member
No. People read the Silver Age comics man. This isn't a case of people not understanding the character, this is a poor interpretation.
Heath Ledger provided a new, interesting, unsettling take whilst staying true to the core fundamentals of the character. Leto's Joker is a creepy lovesick puppy. He's unsettling in the wrong ways.
Well, good. I hope he brings something great. I wasn't overly sold on the character in Civil War but definitely saw the potential.
Lists!
Gold standard for medium:
The Dark Knight
The Incredibles
Superman The Movie (screw the old effects as a film it's still way ahead)
Very good:
Iron Man
Unbreakable
Spider-Man 2
Guardians of the Galaxy
Blade 1 & 2
Iron Man 3 (I don't care if you hated what he did Black turned in a very witty take)
Batman Begins
Winter Soldier (sry forgot it originally)
Good with flaws
Dark Knight Returns
Spider-Man
Ant Man
Avengers
Chronicle
Civil War
Rest merge for me into mostly good with flaws to average.
bob_arctor
Tough_Smooth
Then he would just need a master class cinematographer to really topple TDK. And Wakanda has to be on point! *fingers crossed*
You don't have to be, it's fucking great.
BronsonLee
Member
No, to pretty much everybody, if Iron Man 1 doesn't land the way it did we don't have the MCU
Well that's unfair when DC have had three crashes and it's still going...
With the exception of Watchmen and maybe GOTG, I mostly agree with this list. I'd maybe just change up the order a little for my personal preference
1. Batman Begins
2. Winter Soldier
3. Dark Knight
4. Spider-Man
5. Civil War
6. Spider-Man 2
7. Iron Man 1
8. Blade
Yes, I'm one of those weirdos who prefers both Batman Begins and Spider-Man 1 to their sequels
Off the deep end here, clearly letting his DC fanhood get to him here.
'this is the turning point'
'support movies like this'
Subpar Spatula
Banned
I watched it last night and I didn't mind it.
What were the general issues with the movie? Acting? Pacing? Editing? Story? Can someone detail what they were because the movie masked the issues really well. Did it all hinge on the Joker being well done? It did go from piece to piece quickly. I'm just not sure what the general fault with the movie is.
What were the general issues with the movie? Acting? Pacing? Editing? Story? Can someone detail what they were because the movie masked the issues really well. Did it all hinge on the Joker being well done? It did go from piece to piece quickly. I'm just not sure what the general fault with the movie is.
BronsonLee
Member
Different situation, WB knows the universe thing can work so they're pushing it
Also, real being real, the movies aren't bombing so they'll keep making them
cr0w
Old Member
Compared to what we'd gotten prior to it from Marvel's catalog, I'd argue that it was the greatest thing since sliced bread at the time. Growing up with the Matt Salinger Captain America from 1990, Dolph's Punisher, David Hasselhoff's Nick Fury, the various attempts at Daredevil and Thor (especially in the Hulk TV movies), Ang Lee's Hulk, Raimi's Spider-Man trilogy (all of which I consider to be god-awful), and so on and so forth, Iron Man was incredible.
wesleyshark
Banned
Don't apologize for Watchmen UC. It's awesome.
1. The Dark Knight
2. Civil War
3. Winter Soldier
4. Watchmen UC
5. Guardians of the Galaxy
Nope, he hated BvS and was pretty down on the Justice League footage
peanutbutterlatte
Member
1. Captain America: Civil War
2. The Incredibles
3. Scott Pilgrim vs. The World
4. Guardians of the Galaxy
5. The Avengers
Dark Knight's definitely in the Top 10
2. The Incredibles
3. Scott Pilgrim vs. The World
4. Guardians of the Galaxy
5. The Avengers
Dark Knight's definitely in the Top 10
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