I mean, it's not dead in the sense of making money - people are still flocking to see superhero movies in record numbers - but it seems to be well and dead are far as original IPs from creative masterminds becoming part of the cultural zeitgeist. Like, Jaws and ET for example were, in addition to huge hits, just flat out great films. What has happened?
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Suicide Squad Review Thread: As Fresh As Green Lantern!
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I mean, it's not dead in the sense of making money - people are still flocking to see superhero movies in record numbers - but it seems to be well and dead are far as original IPs from creative masterminds becoming part of the cultural zeitgeist. Like, Jaws and ET for example were, in addition to huge hits, just flat out great films. What has happened?
Spine_Ripper
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If you're gonna quote me, actually quote me.
I said probably not complete shit. It's not exactly a well kept secret that reviewers are encouraged to put some pun in their titles and thrash films for more views. BvS had zeros across the board. The general consensus afterwards was that the film was indeed bad, but not the 0/5 the media was trying so hard to sell. Even now, as we have some good reviews coming in, the majority of this thread is anticipating these hilarious, scathing reviews.
I mean...fuck.
I would seriously laugh if that will be the highest rated DCEU movie.
Puck Beaverton
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Suicide Squad may be a bad movie but how fun is it?
Empyrean Heaven
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I feel like this movie really lives or dies on Margot Robbie and Jared Leto's performances. They're playing arguably the two most beloved villains in the DCU, and if they falter, it's doomed.
serenewarfare
Banned
DC stuff is largely director-driven. WB will come in and overrule them at times (like with the BvS theatrical edit), but mostly they are allowed to do what they want.
Dr_LucienSanchez
Banned
This coupled with the avatar made me chuckle a fair bit.
Going down in flames, we are.
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Lord Virgin
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Directors get creative control, for the most part. Snyder got it with MoS, not much so with BvS. Ayer got what he wanted with this one. Funny how people were all on the fuck Zack thing after the BvS reviews hit, but now it's suddenly WB/DC fucking it up and not the director (who actually did get the creative freedom he wanted).
This will also lead to Petty Jenkins being kicked out of the editing room.
Let's hope not. Man. Scary thought. I actually thought BvS was better than Man of Steel. I wasn't really a fan of MoS honestly.
jared leto is hardly in it apparently so I doubt the film lives or dies with him
Hasphat'sAnts
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While I have no doubt that this movie is an absolute mess. I am struck by just how antagonistic some of these reviews comes off. Not a good look for critics tbh.
Sho_Nuff82
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The animated version was great (Assault on Arkham had nearly the exact same premise and core team members).
I'm still hyped. Will Smith and Margot Robbie have too much chemistry for this to be outright bad.
DeathoftheEndless
Crashing this plane... with no survivors!
It came out in March, so most don't consider it a Summer movie.
What "general consensus" is this, exactly?
LyleLanley
Banned
That's just how crazy the Joker is. He has no respect for the English language.
Woof, some of those reviews are acidic.
I can't help feel this film is still shouldering the sins of Batman v Superman and maybe that skewed reviews more negatively than they should have been, but clearly some marks were missed.
It doesn't give the impression of being a crushing bore like BvS from the trailers though, so I'm happy enough to actually go and see this, whereas I will never, ever pay to see something Snyder directed ever again.
I can't help feel this film is still shouldering the sins of Batman v Superman and maybe that skewed reviews more negatively than they should have been, but clearly some marks were missed.
It doesn't give the impression of being a crushing bore like BvS from the trailers though, so I'm happy enough to actually go and see this, whereas I will never, ever pay to see something Snyder directed ever again.
Sgt. Kabukiman
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Wow, that's really late. My anticipation for Suicide Squad was pretty high until last week when I realized the embargo was on the day before the international release. It's not always a bad sign but after BvS..
And Mark was the only one who gave BvS a rotten score if I recall correctly, even though it was pretty clear that none of them enjoyed it all that much aside from Campea. But yeah, he' probably going to like the soundtrack at least.
Ooooooh. Deep cut.
Civil War came out in May
THIS. Batman vs. Superman just looked terrible so I skipped it in theaters...rental confirmed it's terribleness.
This one I'll see in the theater because Harley. I'm just hoping it's fun. I don't really care if this is bad or not. It looks cheesy enough to be fun either way...I hope.
WhateverItTakes
Banned
If only we got this instead...
Potential future DC movie spoilers:
If they do a Return of Superman film I am so so so down for Cage to be one of the imposters. Honestly it'd be a fantastic move.
tkscz
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Civil was... ok. And Ghostbusters we between awful and meh. I'm seeing SS anyway and will make my own decision about it.
serenewarfare
Banned
Civil War came out in May.
JeTmAn81
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It's a little weird but I do think it's common among all movies that they don't like. The more hyperbolic they are the more likely they are to get read.
BvS made my brain melt..sure ben as bats was cool and all he deserves his own movie but good god it was terrible and i expected nothing less from this one either. To me the trailers already did nothing and now seeing how those trailers mislead everything that's confusing the audience as a whole.
Yeezus H. Christ
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Nah all but a few detractors still love it
Dash_Riprock
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True, the moment that try-hard design was revealed I knew we had a stinker.
Lol you mean Nolan Batman. That remains the gold standard for super hero films
GoldandBlue
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As a DC fan, I was out after MoS and it seems I'm not missing much from their Cinematic Universe. The only thing I was holding out for was Guillermo del Toro's Justice League Dark and that got dropped.
Oh well, maybe next reboot.
Oh well, maybe next reboot.
cartographer
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All these damn Disney shills.
Pai Pai Master
Banned
It came out in May. Late April for the rest of the world.
bananafactory
Banned
BvS had an average score of 4.9 or something. Definitely not zeroes across the board
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Spine_Ripper
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https://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/batman_v_superman_dawn_of_justice/
Please don't reply with "but that's one site"
I mean, you haven't seen it tho?
If $175M was in the right ballpark, $500M would probably be adequate.
DeathoftheEndless
Crashing this plane... with no survivors!
.loved it
No. Stop letting Snyder anywhere near them
CapitalismSucks DonkeyBalls
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When a movie seems to be this much of an insult to a viewer's time and money, critics have a right to pan it for being an insult to the senses.
I mean, Deuce Bigelow 2 got shit on like this too. Can't believe I'm comparing the two, but there you go.
But that is an entirely negative consensus.
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